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Posted: 9/16/2011 8:30:19 AM EDT
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A friend of mine was gonna sell me some misc 50 cal ammo, and i was not sure what the heck some of it was, i need help identifing it. It has the following head stamps:
PMJ07 LC07 LC06 LC05 LC02 ML4 FA49 SL53 I know the LC is lake city, but what is the others? Is the stuff with a headstamp of 49, 53 safe to shoot becuase of the date? Can someone tell me without a doubt what each round pictured is by the colored rings? 
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A friend of mine was gonna sell me some misc 50 cal ammo, and i was not sure what the heck some of it was, i need help identifing it. It has the following head stamps: PMJ07 LC07 LC06 LC05 LC02 ML4 FA49 SL53 I know the LC is lake city, but what is the others? Is the stuff with a headstamp of 49, 53 safe to shoot becuase of the date? Can someone tell me without a doubt what each round pictured is by the colored rings? http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt136/fastest302ford/photo-27.jpg http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt136/fastest302ford/photo3-8.jpg http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt136/fastest302ford/photo4-3.jpg http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt136/fastest302ford/photo2-18.jpg From left to right: Mk211 Raufoss Multipurpose Round, "Silver tip" Armor Piercing Incendiary, "Black tip" Armor Piercing, Armor Piercing Incendiary Tracer (APIT), and SPOTTER round. Note - if the Raufoss round is real, it's worth quite a bit of money. You may have to x-ray it to know if it's a real one though. Looks real, based on the shape, headstamp and sealed primer - I'm no expert though. |
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Is the stuff with a headstamp of 49, 53 safe to shoot becuase of the date? Just basing it on the headstamp, sure. Depends on how it was stored, though. Are these just a few that are representative of a bunch he's selling you - or is it literally just these five rounds? If it were a can of older surp ammo and you are unsure of the source or how it was stored, if it were me, I'd probably pull the bullets on a couple rounds (eg, the AP - NOT the Raufoss) to make sure everything is OK. |
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PMJ07 - Korean, I believe. Contract USGI surp?
LC07 - Lake City Army Ammunition Plant, Independence MO LC06 - Lake City Army Ammunition Plant, Independence MO LC05 - Lake City Army Ammunition Plant, Independence MO LC02 - Lake City Army Ammunition Plant, Independence MO ML4 - Not sure... Milwaukee OP or maybe Lowell, MA?, British surp perhaps? FA49 - Frankford Arsenal, Philadelphia PA SL53 - St. Louis Ordnance Plant, St. Louis MO |
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Are you sure the HS isn't LM for Lowell, MA?
The ammo looks like reloads, do you trust him enough to shoot his reloads? If not the # 1 rule of shooting reload is don't shoot other peoples reloads unless you REALLY trust them! 1st rounds is a Raufoss 2nd is an M8 API 3rd is an M2 AP 4th is an m20 APIT 5th is an m48 spotter tracer loaded into a full size 50 BMG case of which it was never intended. If not down loaded it could be dangerous due to the higher pressures of it being shot out of a 50 BMG rifle and not the shorter M48 cases. |
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The dead giveaway is the fact that the primer pockets aren't crimped, the one that has the staked primer pocket looks like it was swaged as the stakes have been pushed out of the way. Plus the spotter tracer was never loaded into a full size 50 BMG case, it could be that these rounds were older Talon stuff that was remanufactured. The WCC case (1st) is probably the only one not a reload/remanufactured round as it looks to be a real Raufoss.
Another dead giveaway is the fact that there's no primer sealant on any of them but the first round, if you could check them to see if there are any marks on the bullets (a vertical line on opposite sides) would be another indication. That doesn't mean that they could've also been collet pulled which wouldn't leave marks. Sorry but to me they look like reloads or rounds that have been remanufactured. The APIT looks to have dents in the jacket which they get some times from being demilled and the primer looks off on it like it was seated a little to hard and flatened out more then the others. Please take this as friendly advice as I don't want to see you get burned or hurt from ammo that you don't know the history of. |
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