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Posted: 9/4/2011 10:59:38 PM EDT
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http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2762913#Post2762913
Just saw this on Snipers Hide Looks like another Bohica bites the dust. Hope the shooter makes it through this without any permanent injury. Ed |
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http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2762913#Post2762913
Made it hot, and good god.. I was starting to regret I didn't buy one of those.... |
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I read in the other thread that they were out of business.Owner claimed ATF rulings put their production to a halt?
Then some guy who said he worked there said they are still in business,and selling more rifles than they could make. 
But nobody can get in contact with them,and the phone is disconnected.Sure sounds like something fishy is going on. Good Luck to the shooter that was hurt with the Bohica firearm. |
| I think I can tell you what caused that KABOOM. Not the hammer going forward before the bolt was in battery. If you put the recoil spring in place behind the bolt which Bohica says to remove and then hit the bolt release the bolt will fly forward and when it drives the case into the chamber the firing pin will still be traveling forward. This is happening while the lugs are not in battery and when the firing pin hits the primer you have an out of battery detonation. With all the pieces of brass that will end up in your arms and anything else in the way. DO NOT PUT THE RECOIL SPRING BEHIND THE BOLT IN THE STOCK. IT WILL HURT YOU BUT IT'S NOT BOHICA'S FAULT. Again the hammer cannot hit the firing pin unless the bolt lugs are engaged. The opening will not allow thatto happen. I'm sorry that guy got hurt but he needs to be honest with how it happened. I still enjoy shooting my Bohica and trust it very much. I however do not have the recoil spring behind the bolt waiting to trigger a KABOOM when the bolt is allowed to fly forward. |
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Your kidding (never mind just a figure of speech) the bolt release will hold the BOHICA bolt back? And you can actually get the bolt back far enough with the AR buffer spring still in place? Is the buffer still in the buffer tube also? Wow, that is asking for problems. When I was looking at getting a FAR-50. I was active in the forum and I thought that if you left the buffer and spring in the tube. You could not get the bolt either back far enough or that the bolt would not stay back. I know at one point in time there was a small spring to kind of hold the F.P. back. But I am sure that if the bolt was to slam forward that the inertial would be enough to cause the F.P. to travel forward.
As for the slot that the hammer has to pass through to get to the F.P. I believe I have heard that the lugs just start to engage when the hammer can pass through the slot. Not suppose to be enough engagement to prevent the bolt from being blasted back. This is what I sort of remember from the last OOBD that happened about a year ago. Where the father was trying to get info for the son who got hurt. |
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I think I can tell you what caused that KABOOM. Not the hammer going forward before the bolt was in battery. If you put the recoil spring in place behind the bolt which Bohica says to remove and then hit the bolt release the bolt will fly forward and when it drives the case into the chamber the firing pin will still be traveling forward. This is happening while the lugs are not in battery and when the firing pin hits the primer you have an out of battery detonation. With all the pieces of brass that will end up in your arms and anything else in the way. DO NOT PUT THE RECOIL SPRING BEHIND THE BOLT IN THE STOCK. IT WILL HURT YOU BUT IT'S NOT BOHICA'S FAULT. Again the hammer cannot hit the firing pin unless the bolt lugs are engaged. The opening will not allow thatto happen. I'm sorry that guy got hurt but he needs to be honest with how it happened. I still enjoy shooting my Bohica and trust it very much. I however do not have the recoil spring behind the bolt waiting to trigger a KABOOM when the bolt is allowed to fly forward. I tried to leave the buffer spring in and I could not open the bolt enough to get a round in. It is not possible to do this with buffer spring still in place. Also the bolt catch will not work, the standard AR15 bolt catch will not allow the lower to attach to the upper. So that is why it is required to be removed. But the modfied bolt catch from Bohica can be left in place for ease of use when switching uppers. But still will not work with Bohica's bolt.. Are you aware of how long that Bohica bolt is? Have you ever tried to leave the spring in place and try to open the bolt? |
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I think I can tell you what caused that KABOOM. Not the hammer going forward before the bolt was in battery. If you put the recoil spring in place behind the bolt which Bohica says to remove and then hit the bolt release the bolt will fly forward and when it drives the case into the chamber the firing pin will still be traveling forward. This is happening while the lugs are not in battery and when the firing pin hits the primer you have an out of battery detonation. With all the pieces of brass that will end up in your arms and anything else in the way. DO NOT PUT THE RECOIL SPRING BEHIND THE BOLT IN THE STOCK. IT WILL HURT YOU BUT IT'S NOT BOHICA'S FAULT. Again the hammer cannot hit the firing pin unless the bolt lugs are engaged. The opening will not allow thatto happen. I'm sorry that guy got hurt but he needs to be honest with how it happened. I still enjoy shooting my Bohica and trust it very much. I however do not have the recoil spring behind the bolt waiting to trigger a KABOOM when the bolt is allowed to fly forward. I tried to leave the buffer spring in and I could not open the bolt enough to get a round in. It is not possible to do this with buffer spring still in place. Also the bolt catch will not work, the standard AR15 bolt catch will not allow the lower to attach to the upper. So that is why it is required to be removed. But the modfied bolt catch from Bohica can be left in place for ease of use when switching uppers. But still will not work with Bohica's bolt.. Are you aware of how long that Bohica bolt is? Have you ever tried to leave the spring in place and try to open the bolt? Thanks Husky, I know I am getting older and my memory is starting to slip. But I was thinking that with the buffer spring installed you could not retract the bolt enough to get a shell out, was not sure about putting one in. I know that the original bolt hold would not let the upper to be installed. But was not sure about it holding a bolt back or not. Would be a PIA to have to hit that button each time you wanted to manually close the bolt. Again, thanks for clearing that up. |
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quote] I tried to leave the buffer spring in and I could not open the bolt enough to get a round in. It is not possible to do this with buffer spring still in place. Also the bolt catch will not work, the standard AR15 bolt catch will not allow the lower to attach to the upper. So that is why it is required to be removed. But the modfied bolt catch from Bohica can be left in place for ease of use when switching uppers. But still will not work with Bohica's bolt.. Are you aware of how long that Bohica bolt is? Have you ever tried to leave the spring in place and try to open the bolt? I've got a Magpul PRS stock on my Bohica and had a friend talk me into leaving the spring in the tube to "assist the bolt in going forward". It will work and a round can be chambered but if you let the bolt go forward with the spring pushing it you are asking for trouble. Don't tell me it can't be done. It's not bright but it is possible. As another said when the bolt slams forward it's possible for the firing pin to slam forward without the bolt lugs being engaged. |
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You can pull the bolt back with a spring behind it. Its quite possible. Whether or not I would shove or attempt to chamber a live round like that . . . I'm not out for a darwin award.
I would be willing to bet that this guys running an aftermarket trigger setup. Good rule of thumb. If you think the triggers tuned. Then take your unloaded rifle and pull the bolt back to cock the hammer back. Leave it off safe (on fire) and slam the stock into the ground like your trying to kill a rattle snake. If the hammer drops then your back to square one and your much better off knowing you had it in an unsafe situation before you got hurt. 
ETA I have had buddies show off their "trigger jobs" only to watch their eyes bug upon the audible snap when the trigger wasn't touched. The design was intentional. You can make it smoother and cleaner but rarely shorter safely. |
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I always engage my safety
I always feel the front of my bolt to make sure my firing pin isn't stuck I slowly load a round into the chamber I slowly close the bolt I always put my left hand on the PRS stock when shooting I wear shooting glasses and 2 sets of hearing protection What about having a spring sling the bolt forward on a potential stick of dynamite seems like a good idea on these guns? 
- Clint |
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I always engage my safety I always feel the front of my bolt to make sure my firing pin isn't stuck I slowly load a round into the chamber I slowly close the bolt I always put my left hand on the PRS stock when shooting I wear shooting glasses and 2 sets of hearing protection What about having a spring sling the bolt forward on a potential stick of dynamite seems like a good idea on these guns?
- Clint I engage the safety on mine as well. Just think it is a good all around practice to follow. I use safety glasses too. Great advice! 
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