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Posted: 1/31/2010 8:42:53 AM EDT
| I got the OK to buy an M82, is it worth it? I have wanted one for years. I would use it on paper my neighbor has a 500 yard range. It's expensive but thats not the issue. I would like to get one before the ban hits NY. |
| If you have the cash and the wife approval, do it. I bought an M99 and it was a lot of fun, but I wasn't happy until I got an M82A1. It was so much fun I got an M82CQ. If I was going to shoot a competition, I would probably take the bolt gun. For knocking the crap out of bowling pins, rocks, steel plates and junk cars, the 82's are perfect. The local rifle club has a 500 meter range so that's as far as I have shot them, but they work just fine at that distance. If you always wanted one and you have the means to get it, you'll regret not doing it. The 82's are the most fun guns I have ever shot (especially the 82 CQ -kinda feels like a flash-bang grenade going off). |
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Not to rain on your parade, but the proposed 50 cal ban in NY does not allow for grandfathering. Bury it or turn it in, FTF trans might not be a bad idea if you believe the ban will pass. That would suck. So if it passes you would have to sell the rifle or turn it in? |
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I quess I would have to turn it in or sell it to the state. It is amazing that that bill allows for 8500 dollars to be paid to people who own .50's when NYS can't pay for schools. I do not think that NYS would give you the $$ for the rifle. You would need to sell it before the ban took affect. |
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A ban, to include a 50 Cal ban is unConstitutional! The constitution doesn't matter to places like NY or NJ. Tell me about it. I am trying to sell an AR10 to a gentleman in NYS and I am unable to because it has a pistol grip and a flash hider. Tell me how stupid that is.
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A ban, to include a 50 Cal ban is unConstitutional! The constitution doesn't matter to places like NY or NJ. Tell me about it. I am trying to sell an AR10 to a gentleman in NYS and I am unable to because it has a pistol grip and a flash hider. Tell me how stupid that is. ![]() As someone in NJ, Trust me, it gets frustrating... especially seeing what shops charge for neutered "EBR"s... $1700 colt Hbar. no fucking joke. |
| I've never shot match ammo in my 82's. The only time I shot paper was with ball ammo to get them sighted in at 100 yards and the 82A1 and 82CQ both shot the same at that distance. In a 3 shot group, 2 rounds would be very close together or touching and the other round would be a couple inches away. Kinda strange. |
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Ok so what kind of accuracy are you M-82 guys getting out of your rifles with match grade ammo? I have heard people are getting like 3-4", but I think they were using surplus ball ammo instead of the Hornady A-Max or equivalent bullets. Go with Hornady #8270 (750 AMax) loaded to fit the M82A1 magazine. You should be able to get around 1.5" MOA. Of course it costs more (approx $5.50/round) but the big Barrett is not for the economically challenged in the first place. |
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Ok so what kind of accuracy are you M-82 guys getting out of your rifles with match grade ammo? I have heard people are getting like 3-4", but I think they were using surplus ball ammo instead of the Hornady A-Max or equivalent bullets. I would not expect better than 2-3 inch groups at 100 yards with surplus M33 Ball. You will have to reload or buy Match ammo to do better. I have had my current 82A1 for 7 years and have only fired about 300 rounds from it. More than half of those were from letting others fire the rifle. I did make it down to Coalinga last June to meet a friend and I finally had a chance to fire some of the rounds I loaded up three years prior. These were loaded with surplus M2 AP, Hodgdon H50BMG power and CCI #35 primers. I started at 220gr and worked up to 232gr. I found the 220gr load to be the most accurate with the hotter loads progressively opening up wider. See target below. NOTE: Date should be June 2009. http://www.fototime.com/2614780FEBD7F21/standard.jpg I decided to pull the bullets on the unfired cartridges and drop the loads down starting at 215gr and ending at 220gr for the next time at the range. We went back down to Coalinga in September, but I did not get a lot of trigger time. I invited down a lot of good friends I had not seen in many years and I let them and anyone else on the line shoot the 82A1. The smiles on their faces after they shot were priceless. One of my friends is a past FCSA World Champion and I asked him to shoot my 82A1 so I could see how well the surplus M2 AP bullets performed. I did my best to sort the numerous manufactures, variations and weights of the surplus WWII M2 AP, but there is a limit with the tools I have and it is extremely time consuming. It would be interesting to see how M2 AP from the same manufacturer and lot would group. See target below. http://www.fototime.com/7D555A9012400C1/standard.jpg This time I had also loaded up some Israeli IMI 645gr M33 Match Ball bullets I purchased back in 1998. I forgot I had these and found them when I was inventorying my 50 BMG components. I wish I could still purchase more of these since they are very uniform bullets in every way. I found 230gr of Hodgdon H50BMG to be the most accurate load at 100 yards. See photo below. http://www.fototime.com/673904F686D4B07/standard.jpg I had three rounds each of the IMI 645gr M33 Match Ball loaded with 230gr, 233gr and 238gr left and it was almost 6:00PM. A group of match shooters had been using the 1,000 yard range all day and they finally left and I got to shoot at 1,000 yards. This was the first time I had shot at 1,000 yards and it is addictive. My friend was a 50 BMG Match shooter and I asked him to help me get on paper. My wife and a friend in the pit informed us the 230gr and 233gr rounds were going subsonic and hit the berm or key holed the target. I moved up to the rounds with the 238gr load and these stayed supersonic and the first round hit about 10 o’clock at the edge of the outer black ring. My friend gave me the windage and elevation corrections and I was able to put the third shot in the x-ring. I am really looking forward to going back down to Coalinga in June to spend more time on the 1,000 yard range. It will be interesting to see what the 82A1 will do with the right load. http://www.fototime.com/6D3453C9A4CCB27/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/E7857359A94A0BF/standard.jpg http://www.fototime.com/5B0589D921B600D/standard.jpg |
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I've never shot match ammo in my 82's. The only time I shot paper was with ball ammo to get them sighted in at 100 yards and the 82A1 and 82CQ both shot the same at that distance. In a 3 shot group, 2 rounds would be very close together or touching and the other round would be a couple inches away. Kinda strange. I get that sequence sometimes, too. Wonder if it has someting to do with the barrel heating up just enough after a couple of rounds that it returns to battery in the bushing up front in a slightly different position... that, along with the fact that the sight is mounted onto a component of the rifle that is not solidly attached to the moving barrel, might be a part of it. |
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Ok so what kind of accuracy are you M-82 guys getting out of your rifles with match grade ammo? I have heard people are getting like 3-4", but I think they were using surplus ball ammo instead of the Hornady A-Max or equivalent bullets. Go with Hornady #8270 (750 AMax) loaded to fit the M82A1 magazine. You should be able to get around 1.5" MOA. Of course it costs more (approx $5.50/round) but the big Barrett is not for the economically challenged in the first place. LOL- That's an understatement.... But I love firing mine as it's the closest I can get to what I loved firing in the Army, a 120mm cannon from an M1 tank. |
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Ok so what kind of accuracy are you M-82 guys getting out of your rifles with match grade ammo? I have heard people are getting like 3-4", but I think they were using surplus ball ammo instead of the Hornady A-Max or equivalent bullets. Go with Hornady #8270 (750 AMax) loaded to fit the M82A1 magazine. You should be able to get around 1.5" MOA. Of course it costs more (approx $5.50/round) but the big Barrett is not for the economically challenged in the first place. LOL- That's an understatement.... But I love firing mine as it's the closest I can get to what I loved firing in the Army, a 120mm cannon from an M1 tank. You could get one of the azoin 20mm's. Just saying. |
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Ok so what kind of accuracy are you M-82 guys getting out of your rifles with match grade ammo? I have heard people are getting like 3-4", but I think they were using surplus ball ammo instead of the Hornady A-Max or equivalent bullets. Go with Hornady #8270 (750 AMax) loaded to fit the M82A1 magazine. You should be able to get around 1.5" MOA. Of course it costs more (approx $5.50/round) but the big Barrett is not for the economically challenged in the first place. LOL- That's an understatement.... But I love firing mine as it's the closest I can get to what I loved firing in the Army, a 120mm cannon from an M1 tank. You could get one of the azoin 20mm's. Just saying. That would be nice |
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