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Posted: 2/6/2008 10:58:31 AM EDT
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I am looking for recommendations for type and height of scope rings. I have an AR50 and am looking to mount a Springfield 6-20X56 mil-dot government model scope that I'm not using right now on it. I've watched the forums and have heard kudos for everything from Burris Xtreme and Leupold Mark IV rings to Nightforce and Ivey's. If I'm looking at the right model Burris those are aluminum rings. correct? I wouldn't think that to be a best choice for a 50. I would think steel is the way to go. Agree / disagree? I use Leupold rings on a Rem PSS and am pleased with them but are they a good choice in this application? No experience with Nightforce but they don't really look much better than Leupold, only more $$$. Ivey being adjustable is really nice but at $445 retail.........aiyeeee.... Badger look good too but are they better/worse than Nightforce/Leo? Why? I think maybe med height Night Force (.885") should work but it just may take high rings of some of the other mfg's to work with a 56mm objective. What have the pros here found to work on an AR50? I know the ever popular nightforce has a 5-22 with a 56mm objective. Any thoughts, opinions, advice, etc is appreciated. |
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I just got an AR50. I'm putting a Leupold VX-3 6.5-20x50 with a 30mm tube. I ordered the Badger Max50 high rings. Here Is a link where I ordered them from. http://www.snipercountrypx.com/pc-306-1642-badger-ordnance-max-50-scope-ring-30mm-high.aspx Hope to get them tomorrow. I had the same thoughts you had about aluminum. |
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I use the Burris Xtreme 6-screw rings to mount a Nightforce 5.5-22x56mm on a State Arms Shorty. They work just fine and have held up to about 400 rounds thus far without a shift in zero or evidence of movement on the scope or rifle. Like I do with any ring, I mount them to my rifle torquing the loc-tited crossbolts with an inch pound wrench to Burris specs. Then I Lap the rings with a Wheeler lapping bar. Then I blue loctite the ring screws, dust the insides of the rings with Rosin, setup the scope for eye relief and then level off a surveyor's line hung from my neighbor's porch at about 150 yards. Then I torque the ring screws keeping the gap the same on both sides. Tedious but I would do that regardless of the ring brand. The Burris Xtremes have worked fine for me. While some folks will argue this, your scope is aluminum, why can't the rings be? If you've got the scratch for NF or Badgers, by all means. When I spent $1300 on an NXS and $2100 on a State Arms and $600 on reloading equipment and $1000 on components, I was tapped out. The burris Xtremes were a good place to save. By the way, I saw your post on the FCSA visitors board and posted my method of determining ring height. If you use the Burris, you will probably want high because of the cheek rest configuration. I had a buddy with a 5.5-22x56 NF NXS and and AR-50 and he used the standard Armalite 1-piece rings and thought they were too low. Not because of scope/rifle clearance but because of the cheek rest. -David Edgewood, NM |
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Got my rings today. Got the Badger MAX-50 High. I think I should have got the taller ones. I got the cheek rest all the way down and still have to twist my head to see through the scope. The cheek rest kind fo diggs in under my cheek bone. I think the next size up will still give me a little trouble. I will try what I got first. |
The only thing gents is that he has an AR-50 which comes with a sloped rail. I think it comes with a 20MOA standard rail with the option to purchase a 10 or 15 MOA or a 30 MOA if I remember correctly. Been awhile since last time I took a look at the Armalite site. So, he may not be interested in a set of Barrett adjustable rings. Which appears to be the case. I have a set of them Barrett adjustable rings. Now waiting for my FAR-50 with no slope in the rail. So, they will come in handy for sure. They are very well made and once the bolts are draw in tight, I have no doubt that they will hold tightly. |
On my AR-50 I have been using the BO Max 50 to hold my Leupold VXIII 8.5-25 which sits on top of an ARMS rail to get the height high enough so the cheek rest clears the bolt. This has been working perfectly for many years and everything is perfect. Nothing has slipped, broken or needed adjustment. And it holds .5 MOA out to the longest range I have shot which is 500 yards.
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| Well, since someone else brought up sloped rails. I am looking for a more affordable way to get a 20 MOA slope on the FAR 50 I ordered. MSP has some sloped rings for $215, and as noted, the Barrets are pricey too. I have looked at Burris signature rings, because they sell inserts which slope the scope. Anyone tried these on a 50 cal? Anyone know of any other cheaper solutions? Thanks. |
Ah Juslearnin, would you educate me? From what I have thought that I knew about these inserts. They just make it so that you do not have to lap in the rings, if we are taking about the same inserts. So if your rings are twisted or tilted the inserts will act like a ball and socket and they keep the scope straight and not in a bind, while the rings are not true. I have never seen these inserts that have a offset hole in the middle. But hell this might be a recent offer from Burris. My only concern with the use of inserts is, is there enough compression to get a really good grip on the scope tube? I think that the Barrett adjustable rings for $180 is the cheapest solution available on the market. Dang this is the same price as a set of B.O. Max 50 high rings and they are not adjustable. Max |
| Look here. Unfortunately I have only been able to find them for their 1" rings, not the 30mm. I am not sure if they make them for the 30mm, but it seems like they should, the principle would be the same. |
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i went with these Precision Relex they look like there built for a tank and with 25 moa built in and a leupold 8-25 varix3 i should be good to go when my upper get here latter i might get the moa rail that chris says should be on the market in a few months |
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