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Posted: 2/4/2005 12:03:48 PM EDT
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Could someone help me out with this? I'm interested in a 50 upper but don't really understand the difference between the two. Is one more desirable or better quality than the other? Thanks! |
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A bolt action is exactly like your conventional bolt action rifle. A shell holder is sort of a bolt that is screwed into and out of the receiver. Screw it out, insert round, screw it in, fire, repeat as needed. The shell holder may have a slight edge in strength, but looses out in the speed and ease of use areas. |
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The only 'shell holder' that you have to screw in 'n out is the Watson's Weapons AR upper. The majority of shell holders work just like any other bolt action, except the bolt is extracted in it's entirety, the catridge slipped into the boltface/extractor then reinserted into the receiver/barrel. Watson's now sells both the screw-in AND shell holder types: http://www.watsonsweapons.com Other popular shell holders: http://www.statearms.com/ http://www.largrizzly.com/ http://www.ultimateaccuracyarms.com/ |
| Anyone read the GUNTESTS review on 50 cals? The talked about the Ferret having a misfire, and having to disassemble it to remove the round. I don't understand why this is. Is the ultralight arms upper the same as the Ferret in this respect, or is it like the Serbu? Thanks. |
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Ferret had what they now refer to as a "short" receiver and the length of pull on the bolt was only enough to eject an empty casing. While loading a round you would feed it into the opening of the receiver and the tip of the bullet would begin to feed into the chamber, you could then tip the rest of the cartridge into the receiver and push the bolt home to close it. Upon locking the bolt, the cartridge is seated in the bolt face and will be retracted by the extractor, this is where the problem came if you were trying to remove a loaded round because the tip of the bullet would still be partially in the chamber. Ejecting a fired case was no problem though because there was enough length in the receiver to fully extract/eject it. To cure this problem, Ferret came out with what they call a "long receiver" or something to that effect. That is what you'll see referred to on the Ferret site. Not sure what the situation is on the UL-50 or the ALS uppers if they can extract/eject a loaded cartridge. |
As uglygun stated the upper tested by Gun Tests was an early version and is what we call our standard receiver. Although it is still available, the extended receiver is what our 50cal uppers and rifles are built on. The standard receiver will eject a spent case but a live round requires that the rear of the extractor be pushed. The extended receiver will eject both live and spent rounds. BTW- the Gun Tests article has several errors about our product and company that wouldnt have been if they had only read the instructions and lit we sent them. Not to mention that they remounted the scope improperly causing the scope to bend because the ocular bell of the scope was hitting the scoperail. Oh well, live and learn. Dave |
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