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Posted: 5/8/2013 7:27:15 AM EDT
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This is really confusing. I see SS190 for sale on GB listed as AP.
Is it treated like .30 AP and is only allowed in certain states, or are they flirting with time in the lockup? Info I find on the net is about 50/50 legal/illegal. TIA. |
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Quoted: This is really confusing. I see SS190 for sale on GB listed as AP. Is it treated like .30 AP and is only allowed in certain states, or are they flirting with time in the lockup? Info I find on the net is about 50/50 legal/illegal. TIA. It's perfectly legal on a Federal level. State level will vary. Is it listed by AP by FNH, but by definition it's NOT AP. Although there is a recent FTB from the ATF that they classify it as AP, but there's nothing on the Federal level that says law abiding citizens can't own, shoot, buy AP ammo. MAKING it is another road.. |
| quite honestly, the terminal performance of SS190 is abysmal, just ignore it. If you really want maximum performance, reload defensive rounds for yourself. The new Varmageddon line of bullets have a slightly thicker jacket making the bullet perform better at PS90 (with the 55 grain) and FiveseveN (with the 40 grain) velocities. Do NOT try to learn on this cartridge though. Due to it's delayed blow-back design where the case obturates against the chamber wall to cause the delay, the wrong powder and too little powder is just as dangerous as too much powder. |
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Quoted: quite honestly, the terminal performance of SS190 is abysmal, just ignore it. If you really want maximum performance, reload defensive rounds for yourself. The new Varmageddon line of bullets have a slightly thicker jacket making the bullet perform better at PS90 (with the 55 grain) and FiveseveN (with the 40 grain) velocities. Do NOT try to learn on this cartridge though. Due to it's delayed blow-back design where the case obturates against the chamber wall to cause the delay, the wrong powder and too little powder is just as dangerous as too much powder. The SS190 does one thing and one thing well. It will penetrate many many layers of Kevlar from even the FSN. Other than that it's a ball round, and as stated much better choices. |
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quite honestly, the terminal performance of SS190 is abysmal, just ignore it. If you really want maximum performance, reload defensive rounds for yourself. The new Varmageddon line of bullets have a slightly thicker jacket making the bullet perform better at PS90 (with the 55 grain) and FiveseveN (with the 40 grain) velocities. Do NOT try to learn on this cartridge though. Due to it's delayed blow-back design where the case obturates against the chamber wall to cause the delay, the wrong powder and too little powder is just as dangerous as too much powder. The SS190 does one thing and one thing well. It will penetrate many many layers of Kevlar from even the FSN. Other than that it's a ball round, and as stated much better choices. This is about all I've gathered from researching the round also. Constructed like M855 as far as the penetrator is concerned, which is not considered AP. |
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quite honestly, the terminal performance of SS190 is abysmal, just ignore it. If you really want maximum performance, reload defensive rounds for yourself. The new Varmageddon line of bullets have a slightly thicker jacket making the bullet perform better at PS90 (with the 55 grain) and FiveseveN (with the 40 grain) velocities. Do NOT try to learn on this cartridge though. Due to it's delayed blow-back design where the case obturates against the chamber wall to cause the delay, the wrong powder and too little powder is just as dangerous as too much powder. The SS190 does one thing and one thing well. It will penetrate many many layers of Kevlar from even the FSN. Other than that it's a ball round, and as stated much better choices. This is about all I've gathered from researching the round also. Constructed like M855 as far as the penetrator is concerned, which is not considered AP. The problem (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that 5.7x28 is considered a pistol round. If it were a rifle round, there would be no issue with ss190 or any other type of ammo in that caliber. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: quite honestly, the terminal performance of SS190 is abysmal, just ignore it. If you really want maximum performance, reload defensive rounds for yourself. The new Varmageddon line of bullets have a slightly thicker jacket making the bullet perform better at PS90 (with the 55 grain) and FiveseveN (with the 40 grain) velocities. Do NOT try to learn on this cartridge though. Due to it's delayed blow-back design where the case obturates against the chamber wall to cause the delay, the wrong powder and too little powder is just as dangerous as too much powder. The SS190 does one thing and one thing well. It will penetrate many many layers of Kevlar from even the FSN. Other than that it's a ball round, and as stated much better choices. This is about all I've gathered from researching the round also. Constructed like M855 as far as the penetrator is concerned, which is not considered AP. The problem (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that 5.7x28 is considered a pistol round. If it were a rifle round, there would be no issue with ss190 or any other type of ammo in that caliber. To keep things on a federal level, the definition is based on construction, with the bullet being able to be loaded into a Pistol. M855 just like SS190 only has a steel penetrator tip, their cores are not made entirely out of the restricted materials. EA's trident line originally was confiscated because ATF reversed their decision that the material Barnes Banded Solids were made from (same material as tridents) and claimed the bullet to be AP. Their new trident line is made from pure copper |
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