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7/14/2011 9:36:41 PM EDT
After I unload my M1A I want to get a SCAR. What type of mags do they run? Can I get standard Pmags or do I get Emags?
7/15/2011 1:34:14 AM EDT
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After I unload my M1A I want to get a SCAR. What type of mags do they run? Can I get standard Pmags or do I get Emags?


SCAR in .223 or .308?

In .223, with some slight mods, p/emags will work just fine. (mostly the notch at the rear of the mag where the bolt hold open, needs to be squared out like a USGI mag). Otherwise, any USGI mag will run.

In .308, they use their own proprietary mags from FN. There's a thread on fnforum.net where someone documented how to mod a .308 pmag to work in it, but it's kind of iffy still. But, it IS cheaper than a factory FN mag, and a lot more available...factory FN mags are fairly rare right now, and MSRP seems to be around $36/each. MidwayUSA is accepting back orders for them at that price. It's also in theory possible to mod a FAL mag to work (There's also a thread about that on fnforum.net)...but the general consensus is to just wait for real mags to get into the wild in more numbers.

7/15/2011 9:16:39 AM EDT
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There's a thread on fnforum.net where someone documented how to mod a .308 pmag to work in it, but it's kind of iffy still.





IIRC, that thread is bout modifying the SCAR 17S lower reciever to accept a .308 PMag, not the PMag to fit the unaltered lower reciever.



The upper reciever on a SCAR (16 or 17S) is the serial numbered part, so if you gun plumber it up with a dremel to accept .308 PMags, you can get another later.



Since it is polymer, I expect someone will make an after market one that accepts PMags sooner or later.
7/15/2011 9:53:06 AM EDT
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There's a thread on fnforum.net where someone documented how to mod a .308 pmag to work in it, but it's kind of iffy still.


IIRC, that thread is bout modifying the SCAR 17S lower reciever to accept a .308 PMag, not the PMag to fit the unaltered lower reciever.

The upper reciever on a SCAR (16 or 17S) is the serial numbered part, so if you gun plumber it up with a dremel to accept .308 PMags, you can get another later.

Since it is polymer, I expect someone will make an after market one that accepts PMags sooner or later.


There's a couple threads, the one that's tacked in the 17s forum is on just modding the pmag to fit the stock, unmodified, lower.
7/15/2011 7:39:55 PM EDT
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Wags is a mad scientist!
7/16/2011 7:58:02 AM EDT
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he was able to mod a pmag to work in an unmodified scar 17s lower.

it is in one of this other vides.

THIS BEGS THE QUESTION IF A DREMEL JOCKEY CAN MAKE A PMAG FIT A SCAR 17S, WHY IS MAGPUL SITTING ON THEIR ARSES?
7/16/2011 11:27:16 AM EDT
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he was able to mod a pmag to work in an unmodified scar 17s lower.

it is in one of this other vides.

THIS BEGS THE QUESTION IF A DREMEL JOCKEY CAN MAKE A PMAG FIT A SCAR 17S, WHY IS MAGPUL SITTING ON THEIR ARSES?


Because a dremel jockey doesn't have to listen to complaints on the internet about how his magazines are crap?

"Working" and "Working 100% or we'll make it right" are 2 very different things.  Magpul has said that the dimensions of the 17 lower does not leave enough allowance for a polymer magazine wall to be reliable to their tastes.  Jerry fucking one with a dremel does nothing to change that.
7/16/2011 4:32:17 PM EDT
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The mans been to A-stan and back Im sure he knows all about reliability.  In his videos he shows them working over and over again.  Just cause you dont understand doesnt mean he has not figured it out.  Hes happy with his plentiful $18 mags.
7/16/2011 10:38:42 PM EDT
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wow, really don't know anything about his mods.

they have been very reliable.

Dremel Jockey +1

Magpul 0

7/18/2011 11:00:08 AM EDT
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These all look like Pmags on the left and middle guy.  Looks like they function just fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZBPoFXplw&NR=1  

 
7/18/2011 11:33:18 AM EDT
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he was able to mod a pmag to work in an unmodified scar 17s lower.



it is in one of this other vides.



THIS BEGS THE QUESTION IF A DREMEL JOCKEY CAN MAKE A PMAG FIT A SCAR 17S, WHY IS MAGPUL SITTING ON THEIR ARSES?




Because a dremel jockey doesn't have to listen to complaints on the internet about how his magazines are crap?



"Working" and "Working 100% or we'll make it right" are 2 very different things. Magpul has said that the dimensions of the 17 lower does not leave enough allowance for a polymer magazine wall to be reliable to their tastes. Jerry fucking one with a dremel does nothing to change that.
And the simple solution is for MagPul to make an after-market SCAR 17S lower (and that's not the BATFE "receiver" so it can be sold w/o an FFL) that is specifically designed to take .308 PMags.



7/18/2011 11:51:29 AM EDT
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The only reason Magpul isn't doing it is there isn't enough demand in their eyes to justify R&D and tooling.

They are a monolith and a monopoly for the polymer gun part world. If anyone could do it, Magpul could.
7/18/2011 3:13:02 PM EDT
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The only reason Magpul isn't doing it is there isn't enough demand in their eyes to justify R&D and tooling.



They are a monolith and a monopoly for the polymer gun part world. If anyone could do it, Magpul could.




I think they'd sell as many as they are selling of the angled fore grips.
7/19/2011 1:36:05 AM EDT
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he was able to mod a pmag to work in an unmodified scar 17s lower.

it is in one of this other vides.

THIS BEGS THE QUESTION IF A DREMEL JOCKEY CAN MAKE A PMAG FIT A SCAR 17S, WHY IS MAGPUL SITTING ON THEIR ARSES?


Because a dremel jockey doesn't have to listen to complaints on the internet about how his magazines are crap?

"Working" and "Working 100% or we'll make it right" are 2 very different things. Magpul has said that the dimensions of the 17 lower does not leave enough allowance for a polymer magazine wall to be reliable to their tastes. Jerry fucking one with a dremel does nothing to change that.
And the simple solution is for MagPul to make an after-market SCAR 17S lower (and that's not the BATFE "receiver" so it can be sold w/o an FFL) that is specifically designed to take .308 PMags.



Without a doubt.
7/19/2011 6:37:30 AM EDT
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he was able to mod a pmag to work in an unmodified scar 17s lower.

it is in one of this other vides.

THIS BEGS THE QUESTION IF A DREMEL JOCKEY CAN MAKE A PMAG FIT A SCAR 17S, WHY IS MAGPUL SITTING ON THEIR ARSES?


Because a dremel jockey doesn't have to listen to complaints on the internet about how his magazines are crap?

"Working" and "Working 100% or we'll make it right" are 2 very different things. Magpul has said that the dimensions of the 17 lower does not leave enough allowance for a polymer magazine wall to be reliable to their tastes. Jerry fucking one with a dremel does nothing to change that.
And the simple solution is for MagPul to make an after-market SCAR 17S lower (and that's not the BATFE "receiver" so it can be sold w/o an FFL) that is specifically designed to take .308 PMags.



Without a doubt.


I would buy one in a heartbeat.
7/19/2011 7:28:19 AM EDT
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he was able to mod a pmag to work in an unmodified scar 17s lower.



it is in one of this other vides.



THIS BEGS THE QUESTION IF A DREMEL JOCKEY CAN MAKE A PMAG FIT A SCAR 17S, WHY IS MAGPUL SITTING ON THEIR ARSES?




Because a dremel jockey doesn't have to listen to complaints on the internet about how his magazines are crap?



"Working" and "Working 100% or we'll make it right" are 2 very different things. Magpul has said that the dimensions of the 17 lower does not leave enough allowance for a polymer magazine wall to be reliable to their tastes. Jerry fucking one with a dremel does nothing to change that.
And the simple solution is for MagPul to make an after-market SCAR 17S lower (and that's not the BATFE "receiver" so it can be sold w/o an FFL) that is specifically designed to take .308 PMags.







Without a doubt.




I would buy one in a heartbeat.


Magpul could also design the lower so you can use their MIAD without any modifications.



 
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