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1/23/2009 2:52:46 PM EDT
anyone know when the 308 scar is supposed to come out? i had heard rumors they would be released a couple of months after the 556 scar came out
1/23/2009 4:04:36 PM EDT
[#1]
Word from Shot Show is the H will be Mill/LEO only.
1/23/2009 5:57:42 PM EDT
[#2]
No fuckin way! I passed on the 556 for the 308. This better not be true.
1/23/2009 6:20:51 PM EDT
[#3]
The SCAR-H will be available to civvies as semi-only, but when is not confirmed yet.  They have not even confirmed when the SCAR-L will begin domestic production.  The 200 SCAR-Ls out there right now are imported Herstal guns hence the PWS-type muzzle brake rather than a conventional FH.  There will be another 800 SCAR-Ls imported, but after that the info gets very thin.

Until FNUSA begins making these here, nothing is firm.
1/23/2009 7:54:19 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
The SCAR-H will be available to civvies as semi-only, but when is not confirmed yet.  They have not even confirmed when the SCAR-L will begin domestic production.  The 200 SCAR-Ls out there right now are imported Herstal guns hence the PWS-type muzzle brake rather than a conventional FH.  There will be another 800 SCAR-Ls imported, but after that the info gets very thin.

Until FNUSA begins making these here, nothing is firm.


I'm a little confused about how a conventional FH would prevent the parts from being imported. The PWS isn't pinned on, it is threaded. The PWS is american made, as is many other conventional flashhiders. It is my understanding that the SCAR was imported as a 'parts kit' and assemble here in the US with enough american made parts to classify it as 'American Made', thereby avoidng 922R problems.  

FN is hoping to release approximately 200 SCAR-L per month until the end of the year. Hopefully, after that it will totally manufactured domestically and the Scar-H semi will be introduced.
1/25/2009 7:40:03 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Word from Shot Show is the H will be Mill/LEO only.


With all the BS going on with assault rifles these days, I believe it.
1/25/2009 8:53:45 AM EDT
[#6]
The word came from this post here by Ghetto.
He went to Shot Show and that's what he was told.

His buying a SCAR thread, bad news is post #4.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=818490
1/27/2009 11:44:49 AM EDT
[#7]
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Until FNUSA begins making these here, nothing is firm.


to classify it as 'American Made', thereby avoidng 922R problems.  



Are you sure 922r applies?    Ther SCAR was not around in 1989, or is any non-sporting imported gun?
I have a SCAR L , nice gun.
1/27/2009 12:40:04 PM EDT
[#8]
i was at the SHOT also.  I will be on display at next years SHOT show and then released after that.
1/28/2009 5:15:47 PM EDT
[#9]
i just sent fn an email about this see what they have to say about it, i'll post it up here if/when they send a response
1/29/2009 6:31:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
The word came from this post here by Ghetto.
He went to Shot Show and that's what he was told.

His buying a SCAR thread, bad news is post #4.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=818490

Read the thread at your link.  He got that info from his dealer, not from SHOT.

FN's Ken Flood (aka FNMAN) over at FNForum has stated the civilian version of the SCAR-H is the SCAR-17S and is slated for late '09 early '10 release.

FNH USA SCAR-17S
1/29/2009 6:35:12 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Are you sure 922r applies?    Ther SCAR was not around in 1989, or is any non-sporting imported gun?
I have a SCAR L , nice gun.


922(r) applies to all imported, "non-sporting" firearms.
1/30/2009 7:33:11 PM EDT
[#12]
I asked that same question to the guys at my gun shop, who had gone to a dealer show a week or two before hand.  I was told due to the current unrest and a possible shift of the troops to a different front the heavys probably wouldn't be out this year  They might be out late next year :( though.
2/1/2009 11:56:56 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Are you sure 922r applies?    Ther SCAR was not around in 1989, or is any non-sporting imported gun?
I have a SCAR L , nice gun.


922(r) applies to all imported, "non-sporting" firearms.[/quote

You cannot import non-sporting firearms, however "suitable or readily adaptable to sporting purpose" is completely up to ATF Import Branch to determine.  SCAR L was approved for importation as a "sporting" firearm despite the pistol grip and folding stock.  Shows you the subjectivity at play in Form 6 approvals, but also the enormous power that FN wields since they manufacture 70% of US military firearms.  THis can also be seen with the PS90 and FS2000 as well.

922r applies to the modification of an imported "sporting" firearm in to a configuration prohibited from importation.  Since the SCAR L is largely already in it's military configuration, there's really no need for modification, so while 922r applies technically, it has no practical limitation.

2/3/2009 11:27:11 AM EDT
[#14]
FN will get them out, outside of beltfeds they give us everything they make
2/3/2009 11:53:52 AM EDT
[#15]
I hear the internet is a pretty neat place and you can find things in them there tubes.

http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/family.asp?fid=FNF054&gid=FNG006

Experience the reliability, accuracy and versatility of the FN SCAR™ 16S and 17S, the civilian legal, semi-auto only versions of the U.S. Special Operations Command’s newest service rifles. The SCAR 16S is chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO (223 Rem.) while the SCAR 17S fires the 7.62x51mm NATO (308 Win.) cartridge.


No release date, but they are coming.
2/3/2009 12:40:01 PM EDT
[#16]
What magizines are they using?  They look like a metric FAL mag with no front lug.
2/3/2009 1:03:19 PM EDT
[#17]
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What magizines are they using?  They look like a metric FAL mag with no front lug.


Yeah. The other interesting thing is that the website lists two part numbers: one for imported mags and one for US made mags.
2/3/2009 4:21:14 PM EDT
[#18]
finally got around to my emails and heres the response i got to my email the "projected"  release date and it doesnt use a fal mag



We do not expect the SCAR Heavy until late in 2009.

It will use a Proprietary magazine.  Only the FN magazine will work!



Thank you!



Bob Ailes

Customer Support Manager

703-288-3500 ext. 122

[email protected]

2/4/2009 3:20:21 PM EDT
[#19]
It's an FAL mag, with some mods.  Feed lip contours, and retention are different.
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