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3/8/2009 7:39:41 PM EDT
Put together an M16 this week. (I'm an 07/02) Took it out to test fire this weekend. Would run 3 - 4 rounds then stop with a light primer strike.

The ammo used was, Wolf steel, Federal brass, and Remington brass. Problem was consistent with all ammo types.

Tried running a RRA 10.5" upper with YM bolt carrier & an LMT 16" upper with LMT carrier. Problem consistent with both uppers.

Used the standard buffer that came with the Vltor stock and also a 9mm buffer. Same with either.

It is putting a small dimple in the primers when it stops and the hammer is up in the fired position. Sound like a sear trip problem? Maybe the hammer isn't being caught?

Any ideas would be helpful.

3/8/2009 8:29:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Does it run OK in semi?

Could be the dreaded 'bolt bounce' too.
3/8/2009 8:35:47 PM EDT
[#2]
I was having the same problem with my RLL, dimpled unfired primer with hammer down (released). The gurus here diagnosed hammer bounce. Went to a heavier H2 (from H) buffer and that fixed it. Maybe you need to go heavier or with an Enidine or MGI buffer.
3/8/2009 9:33:24 PM EDT
[#3]
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Does it run OK in semi?

Could be the dreaded 'bolt bounce' too.


Yes it runs fine on semi. I did try a 9mm buffer which is heavier than the H or H2 and it was the same. I suppose I'll try an H or H2 just to rule it out.

3/8/2009 10:14:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Are you sure it is timed right?
3/9/2009 12:04:20 AM EDT
[#5]
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Are you sure it is timed right?


Well I am thinking there is some sort of timing issue. How do you check the timing? What would you adjust?
3/9/2009 7:15:26 AM EDT
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Are you sure it is timed right?


Well I am thinking there is some sort of timing issue. How do you check the timing? What would you adjust?


Do you have a numbered drill set?  From the magwell put a drill bit between the bolt carrier and the barrel extension; do this until you find the closest two drill bits where one allows the hammer to drop and the other does not.  What size bits does this take?

Is this on a DIAS?
3/9/2009 8:48:39 PM EDT
[#7]
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Are you sure it is timed right?


Well I am thinking there is some sort of timing issue. How do you check the timing? What would you adjust?


Do you have a numbered drill set?  From the magwell put a drill bit between the bolt carrier and the barrel extension; do this until you find the closest two drill bits where one allows the hammer to drop and the other does not.  What size bits does this take?

Is this on a DIAS?


Not a DIAS. Standard auto sear pinned above the selector. Is the drill bit routine you mentioned above only for checking the timing on a DIAS?

3/9/2009 10:18:22 PM EDT
[#8]
You can use that method to check any FA AR.  It should release the hammer with about a #39 drill bit or a .100 pin gauge.  It should not release with something much larger than that; AFAIR the spec is to not release with a .120 gauge pin but that is a little early I think.
3/18/2009 11:30:05 AM EDT
[#9]
My M16 will not run with a 9mm buffer,  I believe it's bolt bounce,  I can almost feel the bounce when the 9mm is in.  Try an H or H2.  Or a brand new mag with a stiff spring.  It causes drag on the bolt carrier and can slow it down enough to get one to run.  This drove me nuts when I first got my RR.  It would run with some of my mags and not with the others.
3/18/2009 3:23:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Have to use the H2 Buffer.   Is the sear located in the proper position?  What method did you use to make the sear pin hole?
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