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Posted: 6/13/2006 12:32:03 PM EDT
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I may be treading on thin ice here, but I mean no harm, and only ask to be fully compliant with the laws in place: I have always been interested in the m4 rifle with burst mode, and I have never really seen it mentioned in the forum. I am fully aware the process required, and know about RR's, RLL's and RDIAS's, but i am unsure about what would involved in acquiring burst mode. Full auto is nice, but I don't like the idea of spray-n-pray. I feel that I would enjoy a more controlled (personal, based on nothing theory) burst of fire more than full auto. I guess the REAL question here is how would one acquire a burst mode m4? Is there something like an rdias (rdibs?) that would do this, or would one need to purchase a RR that had burst instead of full? |
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The mode of fire has nothing to do with the registered receiver or sear. Burst mode in a FA is accomplished by installing different parts in the FCG (i.e., a different trigger that holds two seperate disconnectors and a burst cam that rotates on the hammer pin). Read starting on page 3-88 of this manual. It will explain the whole operation of the 3-rd. burst. As far as 3-rd. with a LL....not sure. Someone else can comment on that. Mike |
LLs used by themselves are safe and full-auto only, no semi setting. If you install modified fire-control parts from a burst kit, you can add a SEMI function to an LL, giving you safe/semi/auto selector settings, but the modified FC does not have a burst function. |
I knew you could convert it to more settings, but couldn't remember if it added semi or burst. |
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Spray and Pray is up to the finger to control, not the gun. Burst mode in a M16 is poorly executed because the cam does not reset, if you shoot to, next burst is 1. If you shoot 29rnds and put the gun away unloaded, then the first burst you shoot is 1 rnd. No one likes burst. |
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Sorta confused now... woulda thought something like that would be mroe costly. Would this part (after proper taxes and forms sent to Uncle Sam of course) drop in and allow 3 round burst? That sounds too good to be true, and you know what they say about that...it usually is. I would assume that something more than this would be required. Edit: this would still require a rdias, correct?
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Those parts may only legally be installed in an M16 which was manufactured and registered prior to May 19, 1986. Figure $10k for the receiver to put them in, plus $200 to BATF for the transfer tax. The burst parts are cheap because everyone who has a burst system takes 'em out and throws them away, and replaces them with full-auto components. Burst M16s were designed for issue to newbie soldiers who had too little training, and were panicking under fire and emptying their mags. Installing a burst system in a transferable M16 is like buying a brand new Z06 'Vette, then having the onboard computer reprogrammed to limit engine rpm to 3,000. Sure, you don't have to worry about over-revving your new Vette ... but IMHO, that's what your right foot is for, and an artificial governor takes all the fun and driver involvement out of the equation. The same goes for M16s: The best burst control is in your trigger finger. You can choose between five shots, four shots, three shots or two with very little practice. And if you only want one shot, move the selector to semi. 
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What about the "4-mode" fire control parts? Aren't there some M16 sets that give you all four choices? |
You mean like this one?  
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DUDE! Now how am I going to sell them! 
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You mean like this one?  TOO FUNNY....but so very true.  M60-E4 |
Oops! Sorry!  Nah -- on second thought, you shoulda known I'd chime in here eventually -- I always do, when it comes to burst kits. So if you hadn't mentioned your ad..... Enchanter03, buy a registered transferable M16. Then buy WS4LIF's burst kit and install it. At $65, it will be the cheapest in a long line of NFA-owner experiences ... hey, once you own an M16, you'll be spending on a whole 'nother level: Buying ammo by the truckload, mags by the gross, uppers and optics. In other words, you'll be as broke as the rest of us.
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