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8/9/2010 4:31:46 PM EDT
Ok so this is my first post b/c i can normally find whatever i am looking for on here. However i have been thinking about doing a SBR or some other type of Class 3 weapon. My problem is that i can not find the legal stuff from anyone that i can understand on the webz!!  What i am looking for is info on what forms and procedures i need to get done to start a class 3 weapon and any other info about these things would rock sox!! Thanks in advance, and please dont flame and tell me to do a search plz
8/9/2010 8:51:37 AM EDT
[#1]
http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=6&f=22
8/9/2010 9:29:56 AM EDT
[#2]
I checked that out, however the majority of this information and links seem to be out of date.
8/9/2010 9:31:19 AM EDT
[#3]
Its not out of date.  Its as current as it gets.  I just went through the process 4 times.  Twice for SBR's and twice for silencers.
You can learn EVERYTHING you need to know from that forum.
8/9/2010 9:31:47 AM EDT
[#4]
Welcome to the site..
8/9/2010 9:39:05 AM EDT
[#5]


^^ This and General Class 3
8/9/2010 10:47:04 AM EDT
[#6]
OK - why don't you state your questions in specifics and then perhaps we can give you more responsive answers?

SBR:

Have a lower engraved per ATF specs
Send off a ATF Form 1
Receive your approved tax stamp/paperwork
Buy your SBR upper/have one chopped/whatever - do NOT have one around without the approved paperwork and an extra lower.  IMO err on the side of caution and get one after you are approved.

Enjoy your SBR

ATF Form 1
8/9/2010 2:41:18 PM EDT
[#7]
I did find what i was looking for in the links posted above, just took more searching to find the correct thread. thanks for that but to the poster above, what is the difference in a pistol setup and a normal lower setup without the stock on the buffer tube?
8/9/2010 12:20:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
OK - why don't you state your questions in specifics and then perhaps we can give you more responsive answers?

SBR:

Have a lower engraved per ATF specs
Send off a ATF Form 1
Receive your approved tax stamp/paperwork
Buy your SBR upper/have one chopped/whatever - do NOT have one around without the approved paperwork and an extra lower.  IMO err on the side of caution and get one after you are approved.

Enjoy your SBR

ATF Form 1


This^.
If you want to buy your SBR upper now (<16")- then you should start with a pistol lower. That way you can go ahead and buy/use the upper now- but do not install a stock or VFG until you get your approved/stamped form 1 back.
8/10/2010 6:36:56 AM EDT
[#9]
A pistol lower can NEVER have had a stock on it which would allow it to be fired from the shoulder.  Nor could it be readily made able to do so (such as a 6-position reciever extension on the lower without the stock body installed).  If you're going to go this route, just buy one of the pistol buffer tubes (the type that frequently has the rubber around the extension).  Also, a pistol can not have a VFG attached (not even the MagPul Angled ForeGrip or one installed to the left or right side of the barrel).  Doing so makes your pistol an AOW, which is another form of NFA Title II weapon.



(By the way, there is no such thing as a Class III weapon.  Class 3 refers to a tax status of a Federally licensed firearms dealer who deals in NFA Title 2 weapons.  Title 2 is the proper term for the grouping of firearms which contains MG's, SBR's, SBS's, AOW's, DD's, and silencers.)
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