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Posted: 8/16/2009 1:50:30 PM EDT
| Why would I want anything but a 16" upper receiver group? Why do people buy 11.5 & 14.5 in? I assume that is geared more for close quarters combat and not accuracy? I'm just going thru the slow process of my 1st build and want to think of every possibility. I already have a Model 2 Stag 16" and thought why not something different than the norm for my 2nd rifle?? Just want to explore all realms before investing. (Right now I'm thinking BCM BCG & 16" standard upper recvr group, Larue tactical rails and not for sure but thinking LMT for my lower). |
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cool. thanks. the 14.5 barrel by BCM has the permanent hider already on it correct? It sure looks that way. Excuse my naivety. No, It has an A2 FH but it's not permed on. You'll need a longer FH permed on to bring it out to the legal 16" such as a Vortex, Phantom or SDI Extended A2. (Mine is at ADCO now having this done with 168 144 hours till it comes home. Hopefully I put enough cookies in there so they'll do mine before they do jcrowls as I want to post pics first  )
Also, it's a SBR when it arrives so don't have a lower and loose components waiting for a complete build under one roof until you get a longer FH permed on otherwise you could can end up bunking with OJ. 
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Why would I want anything but a 16" upper receiver group? Why do people buy 11.5 & 14.5 in? I assume that is geared more for close quarters combat and not accuracy? I'm just going thru the slow process of my 1st build and want to think of every possibility. I already have a Model 2 Stag 16" and thought why not something different than the norm for my 2nd rifle?? Just want to explore all realms before investing. (Right now I'm thinking BCM BCG & 16" standard upper recvr group, Larue tactical rails and not for sure but thinking LMT for my lower). I run an 11.75" because I dont need or want any longer of a barrel. Longer barrels are not more accurate. I think if there was no NFA the maority of ARs would be SBRs. My rifle with the silencer on is about the same as a normal 16" plus flash hider. If I wanted a longer range platform Id select a caliber better suited to long range than 5.56 in terms of both bucking wind and terminal effectivness. If you are a person absessed with ammo fragmenting range for some sort of defensive purpose I use 5.56 TAP and get over 100 yards of fragmenting range. Headshots are easy at 200 as well. Do you need more than that for a defensive rifle in the continental US? |
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Is it easy to attach the permanent FH? and what are some good choices? Permanantly mounted can be via blind pinning, tack welding 4 equadistant tack welds, 180 degree or more circumerential welding, or high temp silver soldering. It should probably be done by a gunsmith familiar with permanantly attaching muzzle devices. |
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Why would I want anything but a 16" upper receiver group? Why do people buy 11.5 & 14.5 in? I assume that is geared more for close quarters combat and not accuracy? I'm just going thru the slow process of my 1st build and want to think of every possibility. I already have a Model 2 Stag 16" and thought why not something different than the norm for my 2nd rifle?? Just want to explore all realms before investing. (Right now I'm thinking BCM BCG & 16" standard upper recvr group, Larue tactical rails and not for sure but thinking LMT for my lower). I run an 11.75" because I dont need or want any longer of a barrel. Longer barrels are not more accurate. I think if there was no NFA the maority of ARs would be SBRs. My rifle with the silencer on is about the same as a normal 16" plus flash hider. If I wanted a longer range platform Id select a caliber better suited to long range than 5.56 in terms of both bucking wind and terminal effectivness. If you are a person absessed with ammo fragmenting range for some sort of defensive purpose I use 5.56 TAP and get over 100 yards of fragmenting range. Headshots are easy at 200 as well. Do you need more than that for a defensive rifle in the continental US? A person can get absesses from fragmenting? |
Unless I could get an SBR I wouldnt have an 11.5 but if you can 11.5 is pretty compact.I prefer 14.5 because with a permanent hider its still 2" shorter than a 16" barrel.Velocity and bullet fragmentation and moot points because fragmentation isnt garunteed and 95% of gunfights take place well under 50 yds so having the barrel short really isnt a factor.I like to go shortest possible without having to have a special permit to posses.I would go 11.5 with the XM177 5.5 flash hider copy only if I was making a clone of a Vietnam era shorty.Why not go as short as possible as you can within the law I say
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| SBR stamp only costs $200, and you can make it as short as you want. Some folks like to use a suppressor, and a 16" rifle with a suppressor is long and heavy. Having a short barrel doesn't effect accuracy, and SBRs are generally at least 1lb lighter, and are easier to conrol in general. It's all personal preference. |
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Great for shooting from hallways, closets, shower enclosures, inside vehicles, up fireplaces. Zombies can be anywhere!
They're fun on pistols, too. |
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I built a 10.5: SBR because I have a 16" AR and I wanted something different. Also my suppressor makes the 16" AR long and heavy. It feels much more normal on the 10.5". And the whole loss of accuracy thing is not necessarily true. My 10.5 is capable of more accuracy than I am at 100 yards. I guess I am one of the lucky ones on reliability also. My 10.5 never misses a beat with XM193, Wolf, or my own reloads.
Build what makes you happy. That is what is great about AR's, they are easily customized to each individuals preferences.
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| Modularity is one of the key components of the AR platform. The set up you choose dictates the intended purpose. A SBR is generally used for CQB and is more than adequate for that particular reason, If an all purpose rifle is what you desire, IMO, a 14.5 with a perm attached FH would suit you fine. I run my SBR's suppressed so the shorter barrel aids in the ease of handling and transitioning from target to target..YMMV.. |
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