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4/23/2008 10:15:53 AM EDT
Are there any working Flame Throwers out there for sale for $2k or less???  I would think the Ruskies or ChiComs would want to find a way to make some money in their failing economies by selling to eager US NFA consumers.

MadDog
4/23/2008 11:32:15 AM EDT
[#1]
Beats me.  All the real GI ones I see ar in the $5k+ range.

Once could probably make on if the really wanted (not that I would).  They're not a regulated NFA item etc.
4/23/2008 4:38:37 PM EDT
[#2]
A flame thrower is not a destructive device.  It's not title II.  It's not even a firearm.


26 USC 5845(f)
The term “destructive device” means
(1) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas
(A) bomb,
(B) grenade,
(C) rocket having a propellent charge of more than four ounces,
(D) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce,
(E) mine, or
(F) similar device;
(2) any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter, except a shotgun or shotgun shell which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes; and
(3) any combination of parts either designed or intended for use in converting any device into a destructive device as defined in subparagraphs (1) and (2) and from which a destructive device may be readily assembled. The term “destructive device” shall not include any device which is neither designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon; any device, although originally designed for use as a weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic, line throwing, safety, or similar device; surplus ordnance sold, loaned, or given by the Secretary of the Army pursuant to the provisions of section 4684 (2), 4685, or 4686 of title 10 of the United States Code; or any other device which the Secretary finds is not likely to be used as a weapon, or is an antique or is a rifle which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes.
4/23/2008 4:49:40 PM EDT
[#3]
There was a lot of Chinese Flame throwers imported in 2006 and sold for about 1k a piece.  Also a USGI flamethrower sold on ebay some time back.  However it is hard to find them cheap.  Just got to be lucky.
6/19/2008 10:28:04 AM EDT
[#4]
hmmm... I always figured a Flame thrower as a tool.

Didn't know there was even a market for them...

I will have to keep my eyes open for one now!
7/13/2008 5:22:55 AM EDT
[#5]
Its cool you can buy a flame thrower.......but the logic behind the other stuff.........lol
Joe Blow can have a flame thrower, but has to wait forever on a form 4 item?!
lol now that I think of it, maybe I can talk the wife into letting me have one for "brush burning". lol
8/12/2008 12:23:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Ive got one



8/26/2008 12:07:21 PM EDT
[#7]
There was a guy on 1919 forums selling one for like 7k but it came with a drum of napalm lol...
9/2/2008 9:28:50 AM EDT
[#8]
google pear burner  :D  
9/3/2008 6:01:58 PM EDT
[#9]
of all the things to buy cheap, is a pressurized container of napalm - that you light on fire - really something you want?
11/12/2008 10:29:17 AM EDT
[#10]
Very true.  If I was serious about getting a working flame thrower, my priorities would be safety, then quality, and then price.
11/16/2008 3:17:00 AM EDT
[#11]
I hear there are maybe 30 or so working flamethrowers in the US - expect
to pay anywhere from $6k-$15k+ for a working tested unit. Stay away
from those cheapo Chi-com units that are floating around as I
(here's that word again) 'hear' they tend to explode at the most inopportune times.
Here's a video (26mb) of some in action - note the real napalm at around the .46 mark.



https://armamentsales.sslpowered.com/downloads/AZ%20Flamethrowers.wmv
A pic of 'Dangerous Bob' with Pinky

Are they fun?  
Ask this guy.

 
11/20/2008 5:09:22 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Are there any working Flame Throwers out there for sale for $2k or less???  I would think the Ruskies or ChiComs would want to find a way to make some money in their failing economies by selling to eager US NFA consumers.

MadDog


There is some guy that built his own.... used denatured alcohol. PVC tank. One way valve for safety, and a cut-off is pressure dropped too low.

I guess it is "safe".... I personally would avoid home made tanks of alcohol strapped to my back while playing with fire.

There are models available... but none ar "military" grade.... made for burning brush and such.

National Laws do not effect ownership of flame throwers... check state and local laws.
11/20/2008 7:29:41 PM EDT
[#13]
I wasn't talking about "home made, gotta be nuts to trust your life" flame throwers.  I was asking about military manufacture (USA, Russian, Chicom, Korean, Japan, etc.).

MadDog
11/26/2008 3:33:24 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
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A pic of 'Dangerous Bob' with Pinky


http://i33.tinypic.com/hta6q1.jpg]  


Is that a homemade wand or a "pear burner"?
11/26/2008 10:30:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Oops did not see that there is a propane torch bolted sideways on it.  I wondered how the needle valve made the bend.  You can't see the front of the wand in the pic.
11/28/2008 12:01:46 PM EDT
[#16]
cool video
12/1/2008 11:17:47 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
of all the things to buy cheap, is a pressurized container of napalm - that you light on fire - really something you want?


Thats really damn funny, Absolutely true, but funny as hell.
12/4/2008 3:48:29 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
I wasn't talking about "home made, gotta be nuts to trust your life" flame throwers.  I was asking about military manufacture (USA, Russian, Chicom, Korean, Japan, etc.).

MadDog


I was quoted a reasonable price (<2k) for a Russian.

The problem is the Russian units are "high pressure" which means they must be pressurized with an explosive device.  Low-pressure conversion is available, but I cannot for the life of me remember who does the conversion work.

12/4/2008 3:56:06 PM EDT
[#19]
F the thrower

save up for a 202 flash
12/4/2008 8:08:09 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I wasn't talking about "home made, gotta be nuts to trust your life" flame throwers.  I was asking about military manufacture (USA, Russian, Chicom, Korean, Japan, etc.).

MadDog

FWIW, MadDog, military-issue  flame throwers are not much more user-safe than "home-made, gotta be nuts to trust your life" flame throwers. In war-time, grunts are expendible. IMHO, there simply is no such thing as a "user-safe" flame thrower. YMMV.

12/5/2008 5:03:48 AM EDT
[#21]
Thanks for all the feedback guys!  I am going in a different direction and will save a lot of money and possibly my life.  I just registered my 37mm launcher as a DD and am concentrating on making the "cool stuff" to launch out of it.  I have worked up a great recipe for Flaschette rounds and am now working on "explosive practice" rounds that stay within the ATF's limit of no more than 1/4 oz. of explosive charge including the lift charge.

MadDog
12/7/2008 4:14:18 AM EDT
[#22]
Are they fun?  
Ask this guy.


and this one............and it was even time to go to school.  

Don't give up.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/1JflameT.jpg

Agree they are very dangerous.  Here is snapshot of a test with just 12cc of WD40.   Most I have seen were restored from crushed ones, are missing the front end and have a propane torch bolted to it to replace the pyro firing system.   Matches are hard to find and very expensive if you luck into an original one with the firing unit.   I went to a demonstration last year.  The gentleman  shooting them said he wanted to talk but had leaks.  We moved way back.  He is one of the most knowledgeable people in the country on flamethrowers but leaks happen.

Accidents can happen with anything but with a flamethrower it is going to be dramatic.  I can't imagine what kind of insurance he has to cover shooting them at a public demonstration.  

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/FT51.jpg

12/20/2008 5:33:15 PM EDT
[#23]
Check out this idiot.
http://mirror.linnwood.org/flamethrower/
12/21/2008 12:50:19 PM EDT
[#24]
Its just a Fuel tank with header valve, oxygen tank, a hose, and wand. It would only cost a few hundred to make one.

These people want 10K+ for a reproduction WW2 flamethrower.... crackheads.

12/21/2008 12:59:10 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
F the thrower

save up for a 202 flash



show me where you can buy one....
12/21/2008 4:40:47 PM EDT
[#26]
I dont think that guy is an idiot at all.  

His design is pretty sound.  Possibly more sound than the usgi version.  Remember the flame can not travel up the hose since there is not oxygen in the hose.  

Don
12/29/2008 4:44:38 AM EDT
[#27]
Was pondering this over the weekend.

How hard would it be to reverse-engineer a .mil one and reproduce it?

Better yet, engineering/materials/fail-safes should be advanced over those used decades ago, so couldn't it be safer to have a new-manufacture civi flamethrower?

Buttload of $$$ for whomever markets such a thing...
1/3/2009 12:57:56 PM EDT
[#28]
FWIW:  I know a guy, or maybe I should say I met a guy that has a WWII German issue flamethrower. He says he has fired it. He has it on display in his house strapped to the back of a manequin wearing a WWII German uniform.

I thought it was pretty cool myself.
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