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Originally Posted By AKSU: I sent an email to get on the list. Does ECCO let you know you’ve been added to the work list? @Sixtysixdeuce View Quote We certainly will. It's a dialogue, not a one-and-done. It can take us a day or two and we don't always respond on weekends, but sometimes emails don't make it through at all or disappear in spam, so if it's been a minute, try again, or FB messenger, or even PM here to let me know where to look for what name. |
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Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: Fair point. We have some of that stuff compiled, but most manufacturers don't disclose thread dimensions used on this or that, so usually we only know once we've had one through to check it out. I'll see what I can do to at least get some partial lists together. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: Originally Posted By Green0: I don't know what the thread pitches of all the cans are. I know customers don't. So maybe saying this fits this, along with 1.08x24 Gemtech, would help. I wanted to be able to shoot the customer the solution, but I can't confirm fitment to a thread pitch I don't know the specification of offhand. That's where I'm saying if there was a little legend or whatever that said the models that were compatible to each thread, the customers would probably have greater ease of purchasing / knowing the solution existed. It's not the difference between all business and no business, but I think people will have an easier time knowing what the boosters do/solve. Fair point. We have some of that stuff compiled, but most manufacturers don't disclose thread dimensions used on this or that, so usually we only know once we've had one through to check it out. I'll see what I can do to at least get some partial lists together. I can definitely agree with this. The GSL and Bowers thread patterns are impossible to find. |
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Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: I've never done a Bravo to 1.180-24 adapter because pretty well everything that's available in 1.180-24 has an equal or better counterpart in 1.125-28. But I suppose I can run a few the next time I'm doing some Bravo to Alphas, it's a fairly minor program alteration. I have no idea what the threads are on those other GSL and Bowers things, so couldn't tell you there. View Quote that would be awesome. I'll keep an eye out. |
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I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly from the walls - I shall never surrender or retreat.
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Nick does excellent work on conversions and recores. ECCO machine is a small shop out of Colorado. Communication is by email or Facebook. More info at their website..https://www.eccomachine.net/
Custom gunsmith would be the best way to describe the shop. 1) Conversion--cut off OEM mount, thread to 1.375 x 24 and put YOUR mount on. Nick is a perfectionist, that's why he needs your mount cuz some mounts are not to Nick's specifications. Re paint with Moly resin. 2) Recore--replace internals with 17-4 stainless. Interlocking K baffles made from 17-4 H 900 stainless steel. Thread original tube for booster assembly and front cap. Re paint. I wanted to standardize my pistol mounts to Deadair. Nick did a recore of My Cobra 45 to a Deadair booster assembly which I supplied. He then made a front cap which uses the Deadair takedown tool for removal. I went from a meh monocore Cobra to a ECCO "Cobra/Phoenix" which has the internals of an obsidian 45. Custom Gunsmith = wait time, perfection takes time. |
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ECCO Machine does stellar work and I need to get off my duff and get on the schedule for more AAC cans.
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Does anyone know if Ecco has ever converted a Tion Inc Dragoon?
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Does Ecco happen to make a taper adapter for Honey Badger barrels? Basically to be able to use anything other than a Cherry Bomb on a Q Honey Badger?
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Originally Posted By alpha0815: Does Ecco happen to make a taper adapter for Honey Badger barrels? Basically to be able to use anything other than a Cherry Bomb on a Q Honey Badger? View Quote If you are looking for the collar that sits on the taper and provides a shoulder for other muzzle devices, Q, Griffin, and Sig Sauer all have taper adapters available. |
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I had to pass on this last time because I am in the middle of a move.
I am ready now finally have 69% of all my stuff. |
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Mine were delivered to Ecco on 3/23
Mini4 M4-2000 SDN6 Being converted to Griffin Plan A 1.375x24 taper. I’m curious to see if the Mini4 will fit their Tactical Compensator mount since it’s kinda long. Guess I’ll find out when I get them back. |
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Does anyone know how long it takes to get the oaky to send your can in? I’ve been on the waiting list since December. I don’t want to call or email, I just like to get some idea.
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Originally Posted By Ghostface: Does anyone know how long it takes to get the oaky to send your can in? I’ve been on the waiting list since December. I don’t want to call or email, I just like to get some idea. View Quote I got on the list in July and just got the call last month for the most recent batch... so about 8 months. I got a photo of the completed conversion today, so they had it less than 3 weeks. |
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Originally Posted By alpha0815: Does Ecco happen to make a taper adapter for Honey Badger barrels? Basically to be able to use anything other than a Cherry Bomb on a Q Honey Badger? View Quote I did some last year because people begged and begged, then they languished on the shelf for months, so I haven't made any more in 5/8 or 1/2. Then people begged for the M13.5x1 LH taper for 9mm Sig things, so I did a run of those in 1.125-28, 1.180-24 and 1.203-28 for all the 9mm cans, and it's the same deal, not moving. So I'm not planning to do them again, too many other things that move to keep up with. @hansohnbrothers has you covered on them, though https://hansohnbrothers.com/shop/hansohn-brothers/accessories/mounts-and-pistons/hansohn-direct-thread-25-degree-taper-mount/ |
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Originally Posted By double_r76: I got on the list in July and just got the call last month for the most recent batch... so about 8 months. I got a photo of the completed conversion today, so they had it less than 3 weeks. View Quote Yours was probably one where we had reached out earlier, but our new site hosted emails that we began using in December were going to spam for a great many people. We increased the batch size to 100 at a time, so we're hovering more in the 5 month range now. Actually had 109 in this one that I'm just wrapping, next round will be folks who were added late October through mid December. We did just hire someone this month, so productivity will increase, but I have to get him trained first. Super sharp guy, and a quick study with an eye for precision, but has never been in manufacturing, so it's a steep learning curve. But he's taken to the CNC lathe like a duck to water, and that's what I need most so that I can focus on the manual machine work while parts are still being made on the Mazak. I also picked up a 4 axis VMC at the end of December, but simply haven't had the time to learn programming and set it up yet beyond partially loading the tool magazine. Hoping to now be able to find that time, because that's gonna be a huge help with all the milling ops I've still been doing manually. And with some luck, I'm hoping to add a Mazak Integrex SY very soon, which will be an even bigger boost. My Current Mazak SQT 15M has live tooling, but it does not have Y axis or sub spindle, so there are still tons of secondary operations I do either in a second set up or on manual machines. The Integrex will change all that. Point of that diatribe is that I'm doing all I can to whittle down and ultimately (hopefully) eliminate the backlogs. I know it's frustrating that we can't get on conversions and recores right away, but God just hasn't given me those extra days in the week I've been asking for, so it's a constant process of trying to improve efficiency & productivity without compromising quality or taking financial risks. Of course, the conversions will always have a manual machine process because I have to be able to feel when things aren't right, when there's a core separation or something else going on that needs human touch and judgement. I use the CNC to finish bore & thread them after the conversion pieces are welded in, but if I tried to use it for parting off mounts and the boring & threading of the cores for conversion pieces, 20 or 30 might go fine, then it would be a disaster with that next one that had a core separation. CNC doesn't know, it'll just keep plowing a tool into a part that's spinning in the tube instead of cutting and wreck things. Can't risk the tubes. |
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Originally Posted By double_r76: I got on the list in July and just got the call last month for the most recent batch... so about 8 months. I got a photo of the completed conversion today, so they had it less than 3 weeks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By double_r76: Originally Posted By Ghostface: Does anyone know how long it takes to get the oaky to send your can in? I’ve been on the waiting list since December. I don’t want to call or email, I just like to get some idea. I got on the list in July and just got the call last month for the most recent batch... so about 8 months. I got a photo of the completed conversion today, so they had it less than 3 weeks. Thanks....that will be about the same time my other can will be coming out of jail... |
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I am tired of waiting for Deadair’s Keymo Adapter for the Saker to come in stock and I am sure I am not the only one. Are you able to make an adapter or retread to 1.375x24? Thank you. |
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Originally Posted By tacolove: @sixtysixdeuce I am tired of waiting for Deadair’s Keymo Adapter for the Saker to come in stock and I am sure I am not the only one. Are you able to make an adapter or retread to 1.375x24? Thank you. View Quote Yes, and Charlie to Bravo adapters are on my short list, just got the 1-3/8 32 3B plug gauge for them a couple weeks ago but haven't had a minute to write the program and run them yet. |
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Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: Yes, and Charlie to Bravo adapters are on my short list, just got the 1-3/8 32 3B plug gauge for them a couple weeks ago but haven't had a minute to write the program and run them yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: Originally Posted By tacolove: @sixtysixdeuce I am tired of waiting for Deadair’s Keymo Adapter for the Saker to come in stock and I am sure I am not the only one. Are you able to make an adapter or retread to 1.375x24? Thank you. Yes, and Charlie to Bravo adapters are on my short list, just got the 1-3/8 32 3B plug gauge for them a couple weeks ago but haven't had a minute to write the program and run them yet. Excellent news. Thank you. |
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On the list to have a Rugged Razor converted to Bravo.
I know there was a side by side with all the Molyresin colors available and names in the last thread, but don't see it here. Does anyone have a side by side with all the colors? |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: Ecco has done a few things for me -AAC Cyclone with "Hub" conversion -Gemtech Trek with "Hub" conversion -AAC Tirant 9 to take SiCo/Rugged pistons and mounts -Recored Liberty Mystic X -Beretta 81BB barrel internally threaded All work has been fantastic. https://i.imgur.com/Yq0c4Rs.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ks7twXQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/09l9nZE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DNI38gt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AYWkElY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TWtK2EH.jpg View Quote @outrider I’m curious, why and what did you do to your Liberty Mystic X? Its a good can, but not great. I’m looking for ideas. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By Steamedliver: @outrider I’m curious, why and what did you do to your Liberty Mystic X? Its a good can, but not great. I’m looking for ideas. Thanks. View Quote I had it recored to a welded stack and now able to take SiCo Alpha mounts. Monocores suck and Liberty mounts were quite expensive. It’s now a dedicated subgun style can. |
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Not to hijack this thread but has anyone used their cans? How are they?
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Hey are we getting any closer to HEMS2 re-coring. LOL? Jst curious.
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Originally Posted By Blackwind: Huh? First, why would anyone go through all this trouble ....not to use their can? Second, it's also going to be highly subjective as to "how are they." If the can was crap, to begin with, and ECCO made improvements with a recore as an example.......yea, it's going to be better..... I had a facelift done to one of my 762-SDN-6 and its sounds great. I use all my cans. I do not own any "safe queens." https://i.imgur.com/pepTOk0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GRG30DN.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Blackwind: Originally Posted By starjammir: Not to hijack this thread but has anyone used their cans? How are they? I had a facelift done to one of my 762-SDN-6 and its sounds great. I use all my cans. I do not own any "safe queens." https://i.imgur.com/pepTOk0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GRG30DN.jpg @starjammir @Blackwind I believe he is asking specifically about ECCO suppressors, not a re-cored can. |
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Originally Posted By Moto-M187: @starjammir @Blackwind I believe he is asking specifically about ECCO suppressors, not a re-cored can. View Quote That’s how I read it as well. I have two of his Salamander cans, and although I haven’t shot them much I’m very impressed with the quality and performance. (He also worked on 10 other F1 cans of mine, if I’m counting right in my head, doing various levels of modification and/or recoring) |
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Originally Posted By Moto-M187: @starjammir @Blackwind I believe he is asking specifically about ECCO suppressors, not a re-cored can. View Quote I actually need to ping them on "their" suppressors and process for ordering one or....ten. |
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" We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. " -George Orwell
Celer, Silens, Mortalitas "Swift, Silent, Deadly" |
That being said, yes have a ECCO mod’d specwar that I’ve never shot lol
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
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Originally Posted By klossb: @sixtysixdeuce which is Tan FDE and which is Coyote Brown? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219865/ACFB6565-CB12-403E-9E5C-81970C4016E2_jpe-2352759.JPG View Quote FDE between the black and Coyote in the center. Though the lighting and contrast makes it look a little purplish, it's not. |
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Originally Posted By klossb: @sixtysixdeuce like this? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219865/B38A2F35-1EE3-43E3-8127-CE5F8F8C66A3_jpe-2352865.JPG View Quote Opposite I'll get a fresh pic with better lighting before we start shipping out this batch |
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Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: Opposite I'll get a fresh pic with better lighting before we start shipping out this batch View Quote Ok, thanks. Updated photo. I’ll delete the last one to reduce confusion. Attached File |
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Nick, any experience with MP5SD cans?
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Mine hit the queue Mar 28. Thanks for asking the question. If anybody needs a 51 tooth AAC brake I am going to have a few. bedjr@bellsouth dot net.
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Originally Posted By Outrider: Nick, any experience with MP5SD cans? View Quote None to date. A few inquiries, but nothing has actually come through the shop. We've seen some other integrals, but typically Form 1 critters or custom builds. And of course we have our Susurrus bolt action integrals, but that's nothing like an MP5SD. On a personal note, I have generally found integrals on semi autos to be rather disappointing when compared to modern muzzle mounted cans. They're absolutely worthwhile on manual action guns, but on autoloaders, you still have port noise and action noise, which is generally going to be louder to your ears than the muzzle end report of a good muzzle mounted can. Even .22 LR stuff. That said, if you're doing it to drop velocity of cheaper supersonic rounds to subsonic, that's a different story. |
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Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: None to date. A few inquiries, but nothing has actually come through the shop. We've seen some other integrals, but typically Form 1 critters or custom builds. And of course we have our Susurrus bolt action integrals, but that's nothing like an MP5SD. On a personal note, I have generally found integrals on semi autos to be rather disappointing when compared to modern muzzle mounted cans. They're absolutely worthwhile on manual action guns, but on autoloaders, you still have port noise and action noise, which is generally going to be louder to your ears than the muzzle end report of a good muzzle mounted can. Even .22 LR stuff. That said, if you're doing it to drop velocity of cheaper supersonic rounds to subsonic, that's a different story. View Quote Nick, any idea when you will have the 308 integral back in stock? |
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Originally Posted By cajun22: Got the message from ECCO today that my cans are ready!! https://i.imgur.com/3NRFBJP.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/3NRFBJP.jpg View Quote New life for your AAC cans! |
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Originally Posted By starjammir: Nick, any idea when you will have the 308 integral back in stock? View Quote Not sure. Everyone seemed to like the idea of a turn key, but then the last one I built sat here for almost 5 months. During that time, I built several on hosts that were supplied. People like the hosts and calibers they like, so it's generally been better to build Susurrus to order on a supplied hosts than to try to stock them ready to roll. But I'm sure I'll do more that are complete units at some point, perhaps after polling people on preferred host weapons at least, if not caliber as well. .308 is pretty ideal, though, and other rounds in that class for powder charge to bore size, since we're effectively doing about a 15"-16" barrel ballistically (18" actual, but heavily ported from 14.5"). They can be longer, but then it's quite a stick to contend with. The 18" barrels plus 9" core give an effective barrel length of 26.5 as far as handling & transport is concerned. |
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Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: We increased the batch size to 100 at a time, so we're hovering more in the 5 month range now. Actually had 109 in this one that I'm just wrapping, next round will be folks who were added late October through mid December. View Quote Whoohoo! That means I should be getting a call or email pretty soon! |
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Have email with the picture. You know. What a wonderful start to the weekend!
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Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: @tacolove https://www.eccomachine.net/product/charlie-saker-to-1-375-24-bravo-adapter/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413005/20220421_095830-2356687.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: Originally Posted By tacolove: Excellent news. Thank you. @tacolove https://www.eccomachine.net/product/charlie-saker-to-1-375-24-bravo-adapter/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413005/20220421_095830-2356687.jpg |
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What are y’all’s thoughts on this? Mine is ughhh.
This is a brand new / never fired M4-2000 that Ecco converted to Xeno mount. Using a Surefire 5.56 alignment rod. Factory Daniel Defense MK18 upper. I think I used KAC shims to time the Xeno flash hider. Might have to pull the mount and try Surefire shims w/ bevel? Side note, the Xeno mount was not on very tight. It came loose when first attaching it. Guess I forgot to tell Ecco to really secure it like they did on my KeyMo conversion on my last can. Guess I’ll try Rocksett on the adapter to can. Attached File |
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What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women!
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Alpha, try it without the shims.
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