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5/6/2017 12:59:53 PM EDT
I have a bolt action 22 Win Mag and shoot mainly 30gr V-Max through it.  I am a huge SilencerCo fan but, Rugged and others have come out with new cans that look enticing.  I have lightweight 22lr cans so, while I don't want a brick on the end of my rifle, I also don't worry about it being nose heavy on a 22LR pistol either.  

The ability to have two different lengths seems appealing but, I'm unsure if it really is a practical advantage or a feature I would use.  Of course cleaning is a given so I'm assuming 'skirted' baffles since Sparrow owns the market with the clamshell halves around the baffle stack.  Finally, price is a factor but not a significant one as long as the prices are within the mainstream marketplace.

What would you recommend and why?  What are the discriminators for suppressors in the marketplace now (not some rumor that will never see the light of day for years please!)?  While I do not own a 17WSM or 5.7, I do own a 22 Hornet so a suppressor that is compatible with it has some, though not much, appeal to me.  It would also be nice to have the capability to run 17WSM/5.7 though it but, that is not a requirement for a rifle I don't own today.

TIA,
Sid
5/6/2017 1:58:58 PM EDT
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5/6/2017 3:14:28 PM EDT
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I have a bolt action 22 Win Mag and shoot mainly 30gr V-Max through it.  I am a huge SilencerCo fan but, Rugged and others have come out with new cans that look enticing.  I have lightweight 22lr cans so, while I don't want a brick on the end of my rifle, I also don't worry about it being nose heavy on a 22LR pistol either.  

The ability to have two different lengths seems appealing but, I'm unsure if it really is a practical advantage or a feature I would use.  Of course cleaning is a given so I'm assuming 'skirted' baffles since Sparrow owns the market with the clamshell halves around the baffle stack.  Finally, price is a factor but not a significant one as long as the prices are within the mainstream marketplace.

What would you recommend and why?  What are the discriminators for suppressors in the marketplace now (not some rumor that will never see the light of day for years please!)?  While I do not own a 17WSM or 5.7, I do own a 22 Hornet so a suppressor that is compatible with it has some, though not much, appeal to me.  It would also be nice to have the capability to run 17WSM/5.7 though it but, that is not a requirement for a rifle I don't own today.

TIA,
Sid
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If you want to get more out of your rimfire can you may want to hold onto your money for about 6 weeks.  Your welcome
5/6/2017 3:17:13 PM EDT
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One rated for 5.56.
5/6/2017 3:26:29 PM EDT
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Ive run 22 mag through a Spectre II and a Lane Scorpion 5.56 can.   No difference in sound between the two.     Once the muzzle blast is reduced, the loudest noise source is the supersonic crack.
5/6/2017 4:15:35 PM EDT
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I just got my stamp for my Mack Bros Vapor and tried it on a Ruger MKII with CCI SV and it's as quiet as my Regulator with no preceptable FRP and is shorter/lighter,  it has a pleasant low tone.  It's designated duty is on a Volquartsen .17 WSM and it performed great on that host (the Vapor is also 5.7 capable). It's not a mainstream can but is definitely a winner.
5/6/2017 4:48:24 PM EDT
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I just got my stamp for my Mack Bros Vapor and tried it on a Ruger MKII with CCI SV and it's as quiet as my Regulator with no preceptable FRP and is shorter/lighter,  it has a pleasant low tone.  It's designated duty is on a Volquartsen .17 WSM and it performed great on that host (the Vapor is also 5.7 capable). It's not a mainstream can but is definitely a winner.
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Good to hear. I purchased a Vapor in March as my first rimfire can. I liked that the can was full titanium. Seems to be quite underrated. Looking forward to it.
5/6/2017 4:48:50 PM EDT
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If you want a lightweight 22 WMR rated rimfire can, the Gemtech GM22 would fit the bill nicely.  I have the Gemtech Outback 2 w/ IOU core (almost identical to GM22 core) and it sounds AWESOME on my 22 WMR bolt gun.  My brother's Silencer Co Spectre 2 sounds great on it also but is considerably heavier (not terribly noticeable on a rifle, definitely is on a pistol).  The Rugged Occulus, Dead Air Mask HD, Q El Camino (lighter weight), and AAC Halcyon all look excellent as well but I don't have any firsthand experience w/ them.
5/6/2017 4:55:39 PM EDT
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If you want to get more out of your rimfire can you may want to hold onto your money for about 6 weeks.  Your welcome
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Sounds like yall got something up your sleeve
5/7/2017 1:03:20 AM EDT
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I have a Ruger American in 22 WMR and I have shot it with both my  Spectre II and my Mask. I have not shot them back to back, it was months apart, but I can't say I noticed any difference in sound. By that I mean they were both pleasant to shoot and hearing safe to me (and I have sensitive ears). Neither one feels heavy on a rifle. If I was going to buy another one I would get a second Mask just because it is shorter and looks a little better. Whenever my Omega clears I am going to try it back to back with the rimfire cans but I suspect it won't sound much better because all I really hear now is the supersonic crack.

ETA: I shot them back to back yesterday and I couldn't tell any difference between them in sound or accuracy, just different POI's. My kid was shooting my 22lr RAR right beside me. He was using whichever can I wasn't and shooting bulk pack supersonic ammo, and both guns sounded pretty similar. The WMR was just a tad louder but not much.
5/7/2017 10:58:02 AM EDT
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The Halcyon is shipping to dealers as we speak, and is rated for 22 WMR and 5.7. The Halcyon also features an interchangeable thread insert system that would eliminate the M10 x 1 to 1/2-28 adapter you would need for your 5.7 in favor of an internalized adapter that will not come unscrewed and/or provide tolerance stackup between the silencer and your 5.7 barrel.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
5/8/2017 8:40:58 AM EDT
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If you want to get more out of your rimfire can you may want to hold onto your money for about 6 weeks.  Your welcome
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Please share more.
5/9/2017 4:16:20 PM EDT
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The Halcyon is shipping to dealers as we speak, and is rated for 22 WMR and 5.7. The Halcyon also features an interchangeable thread insert system that would eliminate the M10 x 1 to 1/2-28 adapter you would need for your 5.7 in favor of an internalized adapter that will not come unscrewed and/or provide tolerance stackup between the silencer and your 5.7 barrel.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
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That does sound encouraging. The 1/2" adapter is a little annoying on the end of my 5.7 :D 
5/9/2017 9:01:44 PM EDT
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Indeed. The tabbed, tensioned, interchangeable thread inserts will probably be one of the least talked about, but most practically useful new features unveiled on the Halcyon.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
5/9/2017 9:27:06 PM EDT
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Indeed. The tabbed, tensioned, interchangeable thread inserts will probably be one of the least talked about, but most practically useful new features unveiled on the Halcyon.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
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They looked great at the NRA show too.  Now, get these inserts usable on the Element 2 and I'll really have (my idea of) the perfect .22 can.
5/10/2017 9:31:41 AM EDT
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Indeed. The tabbed, tensioned, interchangeable thread inserts will probably be one of the least talked about, but most practically useful new features unveiled on the Halcyon.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
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That and the 3 lug fast attach option coming that we are not supposed to tell anyone about...
5/10/2017 9:57:19 AM EDT
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I use my griffin resistance 9.       9mm suppressor with a .22 cal end cap works great. Comes apart easy to clean can shoot up to 5.7 or 300 blk out subs only you need to change end cap of coarse
5/12/2017 10:26:45 AM EDT
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Indeed. The tabbed, tensioned, interchangeable thread inserts will probably be one of the least talked about, but most practically useful new features unveiled on the Halcyon.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
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:runs to SilencerShop to request one immediately: :D
5/12/2017 10:42:24 AM EDT
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You will not be disappointed! Please reach out when you've had a chance to run it on your gun, and let me know what you think.

Mike Smith/AAC
SilentMike
5/14/2017 6:47:07 PM EDT
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Does the 22mag or 17 HMR benefit any from larger volume 223cal suppressors vs rimfire suppressors? I run some 22mag and 17 HMR through the Spectre II/Mask  it makes shooting both really a pleasure. I have a custom T/C contender 5.7 barrel being built right now I've flirted with the idea of buying a larger volume rimfire suppressor like then USS-22, Thompson CHD or stepping up to a smaller 223 model for my 17 HMR and 5.7 rifles. Gemtech even makes the SAR-57 5.7 can more volume and still on 5.5oz which might make a nice 22mag or 17 HMR model also.
5/14/2017 8:13:50 PM EDT
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Does the 22mag or 17 HMR benefit any from larger volume 223cal suppressors vs rimfire suppressors? I run some 22mag and 17 HMR through the Spectre II/Mask  it makes shooting both really a pleasure. I have a custom T/C contender 5.7 barrel being built right now I've flirted with the idea of buying a larger volume rimfire suppressor like then USS-22, Thompson CHD or stepping up to a smaller 223 model for my 17 HMR and 5.7 rifles. Gemtech even makes the SAR-57 5.7 can more volume and still on 5.5oz which might make a nice 22mag or 17 HMR model also.
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Nope.    No difference in sound when running a larger volume Gemtech Trek or Lane Scorpion 5.56 on my 22 Magnum.    The biggest source of noise is the supersonic crack.    Ive found the 17 hmr to be quieter than the 22 mag with the same suppressor.    The 17 hmr is faster and the crack is farther down range and seems quieter.
5/14/2017 8:44:30 PM EDT
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Yes 17 HMR seems quieter to me also , sounds like a few Db's quieter overall 16" barrels and Spectre II same setup.
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