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3/16/2017 2:24:17 PM EDT
Do all direct thread suppressors come loose easily? When I shoot my Hybrid on my G19 it comes loose every other mag. And Silencerco suppressor covers don't stay on at all.
3/16/2017 2:31:16 PM EDT
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There is a video made by SilencerShop on the AAC Illusion 9. There, Jeremy threads it on a glock a certain way. He snugs it down, then backs it off a quarter turn, then snaps it back down...works for me, never had a pistol can back off.
3/16/2017 2:33:15 PM EDT
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Yes Sir, that is the correct way to attach. It really does work.
3/16/2017 6:02:14 PM EDT
[#3]
I found it, thank you. And now I want an AAC Illusion.


https://youtu.be/XuohNCKVpXo
3/16/2017 6:33:18 PM EDT
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I found it, thank you. And npw I want an AAC Illusion.


https://youtu.be/XuohNCKVpXo
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Don't get one...many other cans that sound better. Just get suppressor height sights
3/17/2017 5:34:01 PM EDT
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Do all direct thread suppressors come loose easily? When I shoot my Hybrid on my G19 it comes loose every other mag.
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No. Direct-Thread rifle cans are fairly solid. Same with rimfire cans or anything else. I own several, and they never move unless I want them to. Pistol cans are a special case actually. They come loose so quick because of two reasons:

    One, pistol barrels tend to have small shoulders. The friction of the threads helps, but by-and-large the shoulder is what holds the can on. Slightly less staying power, plain and simple.

    Two, most pistols utilize the Browning "Tilt-Barrel" design. The entire barrel moves and then locks back into place with each shot, which is why you need a booster for most suppressors. This movement causes cans to break loose much more easily.
3/17/2017 6:45:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Yes, they loosen.

Yes, they loosen even when you perform some magic trick bullshit like backing them off and then snapping them back on.

Yes, they loosen even when you torque the shit out of them with a wrench.

Yes, they loosen on rifles.

Yes, they loosen on pistols.

The only thread-mount silencers that I have not had loosen under fire are the ones held with threadlocking compound.
3/19/2017 10:05:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Teflon tape will keep a pistol can from backing off reasonably well.   Keep it clear of the shoulder.
3/20/2017 6:35:18 AM EDT
[#8]
Were you shooting a G19 with a direct threaded Hybrid?  

I have never tried this but would be surprised if it would function reliably with a pound of can hanging off the barrel.....and especially a G19.
3/20/2017 7:38:25 AM EDT
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Were you shooting a G19 with a direct threaded Hybrid?  

I have never tried this but would be surprised if it would function reliably with a pound of can hanging off the barrel.....and especially a G19.
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Shoots ever time, never failed once. It's my favorite gun to shoot suppressed just for fun.
3/20/2017 9:31:24 AM EDT
[#10]
Thanks for the reply!!  I never thought to try it without a piston and I have a DT mount.
3/20/2017 9:57:34 AM EDT
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I've used the Hybrid and Omega with the same direct thread mount, and never had a problem with it loosening, on bolt guns and an AK.
As written above, other people's mileage varies, a lot.  
It seems incongruous that all direct thread cans loosen, when most removable mount FHs and MBs use the same direct thread, and it's likely that a fair number of these are without locking compound.
If you have access to a competent machinist, it would be worthwhile to have him gauge the threads with a wire gauge, just to eliminate that possibility.

Also,
Tried a Sico suppressor wrap -the high temp version with the inner sleeve, on a .308 bolt gun, using a Hybrid.  
In spite of tightening it so it could not be budged without extreme effort (when cold), it wanted to slide forward -both the inner and outer sleeve, after a few shots.  

For bolt guns, I prefer the cord wrapped designs (such as Armageddon Gear), that are designed to be cinched down at the rear to prevent forward movement, and pulled rearward off the can for cooling.
But, the AG is not a high temp design, so it's not apples to apples.
3/20/2017 1:32:53 PM EDT
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Yes, they loosen.

Yes, they loosen even when you perform some magic trick bullshit like backing them off and then snapping them back on.

Yes, they loosen even when you torque the shit out of them with a wrench.

Yes, they loosen on rifles.

Yes, they loosen on pistols.

The only thread-mount silencers that I have not had loosen under fire are the ones held with threadlocking compound.
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This thread could be the beginning of a Dr. Seuss inspired guide to Suppressor Ownership...  I wonder if cans like the Illusion and Osprey are less prone to un-threading since the weight is distributed towards bottom dead center and it is a deterrent to rotating out of place.   My Osprey at most seems to rotate maybe 1/8 of a turn and stop, or maybe its so easy to notice I can always straighten it out before it gets worse.
3/20/2017 2:06:50 PM EDT
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There used to be a video that SCo did with Pappas and a threaded Beretta Cougar. Due to the rotating barrel the Osprey unscrewed in 2 rounds while a Tirant 45 didn't loosen up until 8-10 rds or so. It looks like SCo scrubbed it from Youtube when they attempted to write him out of the company, but I do recall it.

My unscientific guess is that the Osprey is either worse or at least no better when it comes to unscrewing.
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