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7/21/2016 10:52:49 AM EDT
I am having some serious issues with my Ryder 9Ti.  Copper flakes in the can after only a few rounds and an unacceptable amount of POI shift.  I'm posting this in hopes that some of you might have had similar experience in the past, and might know what's going on, and have some insight as to what I should do in regards to troubleshooting.  Please only reply if you have relevant experience or knowledge.  At this point I feel like the Ryder is the most expensive paperweight I've ever purchased. What have others gotten for POI shift?  Has anyone else dealt with pieces of jacketing in their can?  

Below are some photos to help illustrate the issue.  Upon disassembling the suppressor, I couldn't find any signs of baffle strike to account for the copper debris.  There also seems to be fresh copper flakes on the threads of the booster, which indicates to me there is some degradation of the bullet before it leaves the barrel.  I have never had issues with Speer ammo in the past, but wouldn't rule out badd bullet construction; I'm thinking it could also be the SilencerCo barrel?  On a previous range trip with my VP9 I had run Federal 147gn and the same Speer ammo, and had accuracy issues but couldn't document it as I was shooting steel; there were also some bits rattling around in the can, but due to the mixed ammo, couldn't determine anything.  That's why I stuck to just one type (Speer 147gn) on this last range trip; that however doesn't rule out the Federal for having the same flaking issue.   Again, if you have any relevant experience, please share.

My next steps for trouble shooting

*Test the Ryder vs. my Mystic X for POI shift on the same gun(s) with same ammo

*See if the Ammo is the issue in regards to the copper flakes

- Try several different types of ammo in the glock, disassembling and checking the can for copper flakes after each.


- Run the Speer ammo through some other 9mm guns I have to see if those then get flakes in the can.





Here are the pieces of copper jacketing that I shook out of the suppressor running only about 50 rounds through it; there were more inside.



And before anyone asks, yes the suppressor was firmly torqued down every time.
7/21/2016 10:03:57 PM EDT
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Free bump
7/21/2016 11:00:04 PM EDT
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Bullet fragments usually mean bad alignment. I would check that first.

7/21/2016 11:07:55 PM EDT
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Bullet fragments usually mean bad alignment. I would check that first.
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Could you elaborate?
7/21/2016 11:11:15 PM EDT
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Bullet fragments usually mean bad alignment. I would check that first.

Could you elaborate?

Bullets are not going down the middle of your silencer. This can be issues with bbl threads, piston threads, not properly threaded into bbl, piston misaligned, etc.
7/22/2016 8:09:47 AM EDT
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Bullets are not going down the middle of your silencer. This can be issues with bbl threads, piston threads, not properly threaded into bbl, piston misaligned, etc.
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Bullet fragments usually mean bad alignment. I would check that first.

Could you elaborate?

Bullets are not going down the middle of your silencer. This can be issues with bbl threads, piston threads, not properly threaded into bbl, piston misaligned, etc.

But that would also lead to visible baffle strikes...  It also doesn't account for the copper on booster threads at where the end of the barrel sits.
7/22/2016 12:35:23 PM EDT
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i would think the copper flakes are just from the barrel grooves cutting on the bullet. If you see copper stains on the baffles then i'ld worry.
7/22/2016 5:23:17 PM EDT
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i would think the copper flakes are just from the barrel grooves cutting on the bullet. If you see copper stains on the baffles then i'ld worry.
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It's certainly not normal.  What I'm trying to determine is what's the problem here.  The barrel, the can. the ammo?
7/22/2016 7:55:13 PM EDT
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Shoot a few rounds into a bullet catcher and see if looking at the damage on the projectile itself helps.
7/22/2016 11:34:39 PM EDT
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Shoot a few rounds into a bullet catcher and see if looking at the damage on the projectile itself helps.
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Good idea.
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