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Posted: 3/2/2016 5:35:02 PM EDT
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I'd like to get a safe for my nfa stuff which as this point only consists of suppressors. That being said, I've heard about the whole "being in possession" thing and I'd rather that not happen.
Any suggestions? Is a safe a safe? I'd like one that can hold an 8.5x11 folder in it that contains all of my nfa paperwork. Should I get a separate one for the suppressors themselves? Academy didn't have one big enough to hold a folder. Haven't been to Walmart yet and would rather not even go there. lol |
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I'd suggest one of two things:
Sturdy Cube Or if you want a safe for everything, but you want to have separate access for the suppressors, get the biggest, most badass safe you can afford and have a cheap lockbox inside the safe that requires a key. Then everything can be stored in one place, but you don't have to worry about possession issues with the silencers. |
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A good rule of thumb that sounds reasonable (at least to me) is take what your collection is worth (being stored in the safe), divide that dollar amount in two, and that is the minimum you would want to spend on a safe protecting it.
I have a Sturdy myself, and can't say enough good things about it. |
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A good rule of thumb that sounds reasonable (at least to me) is take what your collection is worth (being stored in the safe), divide that dollar amount in two, and that is the minimum you would want to spend on a safe protecting it. I have a Sturdy myself, and can't say enough good things about it. 
So a $35k M16 needs a $15k safe? |
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So a $35k M16 needs a $15k safe? Quoted:
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A good rule of thumb that sounds reasonable (at least to me) is take what your collection is worth (being stored in the safe), divide that dollar amount in two, and that is the minimum you would want to spend on a safe protecting it. I have a Sturdy myself, and can't say enough good things about it.
So a $35k M16 needs a $15k safe? God forbid you have an M16 and an HK sear. 13f, I think that standard is insanely high. Safes are a box to put things in. Insurance protects your guns. |
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I live in an apartment so I'm not interested in putting anything in the wall and I'm really not looking to spend the cash on a big safe I could bolt down. Although, I'm getting to the point where I have enough firearms to use one.
That sentry safe looks a little bigger than I need but I guess that's a plus. Makes it harder to get away with. |
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I have a stack on gun locker that's lag bolted to the floor. I also have a stack on small safe that's bolted on top of the locker. Works well, cost effective, and the holes even line up to bolt together. Guess that's why it's called "stack on".
One day I'll get a liberty safe.. Now what's this "being in possession of" thing? |
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I have a stack on gun locker that's lag bolted to the floor. I also have a stack on small safe that's bolted on top of the locker. Works well, cost effective, and the holes even line up to bolt together. Guess that's why it's called "stack on". One day I'll get a liberty safe.. Now what's this "being in possession of" thing? You have nfa items and your spouse "isn't supposed to have access" |
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You have nfa items and your spouse "isn't supposed to have access" Quoted:
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I have a stack on gun locker that's lag bolted to the floor. I also have a stack on small safe that's bolted on top of the locker. Works well, cost effective, and the holes even line up to bolt together. Guess that's why it's called "stack on". One day I'll get a liberty safe.. Now what's this "being in possession of" thing? You have nfa items and your spouse "isn't supposed to have access" That's stupid, so basically everyone needs a trust if you are not single? |
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That's stupid, so basically everyone needs a trust if you are not single? Quoted:
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I have a stack on gun locker that's lag bolted to the floor. I also have a stack on small safe that's bolted on top of the locker. Works well, cost effective, and the holes even line up to bolt together. Guess that's why it's called "stack on". One day I'll get a liberty safe.. Now what's this "being in possession of" thing? You have nfa items and your spouse "isn't supposed to have access" That's stupid, so basically everyone needs a trust if you are not single? Basically the implication. As much as I'd love to believe a .gov has my best interest at heart I don't. I have a roommate not on my trust so I am getting a safe which only I will know the code and have a key to. |
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You have nfa items and your spouse "isn't supposed to have access" Quoted:
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I have a stack on gun locker that's lag bolted to the floor. I also have a stack on small safe that's bolted on top of the locker. Works well, cost effective, and the holes even line up to bolt together. Guess that's why it's called "stack on". One day I'll get a liberty safe.. Now what's this "being in possession of" thing? You have nfa items and your spouse "isn't supposed to have access" ahh.. gotcha. I wonder if a gun cable lock will do the trick? |
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A good rule of thumb that sounds reasonable (at least to me) is take what your collection is worth (being stored in the safe), divide that dollar amount in two, and that is the minimum you would want to spend on a safe protecting it. Quoted:
A good rule of thumb that sounds reasonable (at least to me) is take what your collection is worth (being stored in the safe), divide that dollar amount in two, and that is the minimum you would want to spend on a safe protecting it. 
I have a Sturdy myself, and can't say enough good things about it. So your collection is worth $350? |
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I live in an apartment so I'm not interested in putting anything in the wall and I'm really not looking to spend the cash on a big safe I could bolt down. Although, I'm getting to the point where I have enough firearms to use one. That sentry safe looks a little bigger than I need but I guess that's a plus. Makes it harder to get away with. Get something bigger than you think you need. That way you'll have room to grow your collection. Also, just about any small safe will have holes in the bottom to bolt to the floor. If you have (decent) carpet, you can drill and lag bolt the safe through the carpet to the sub-floor. If/when you move, you can remove the bolts and no one will even know it was there. Might not work with the super cheap, thin carpets some landlords install. |
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Get something bigger than you think you need. That way you'll have room to grow your collection. Also, just about any small safe will have holes in the bottom to bolt to the floor. If you have (decent) carpet, you can drill and lag bolt the safe through the carpet to the sub-floor. If/when you move, you can remove the bolts and no one will even know it was there. Might not work with the super cheap, thin carpets some landlords install. Quoted:
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I live in an apartment so I'm not interested in putting anything in the wall and I'm really not looking to spend the cash on a big safe I could bolt down. Although, I'm getting to the point where I have enough firearms to use one. That sentry safe looks a little bigger than I need but I guess that's a plus. Makes it harder to get away with. Get something bigger than you think you need. That way you'll have room to grow your collection. Also, just about any small safe will have holes in the bottom to bolt to the floor. If you have (decent) carpet, you can drill and lag bolt the safe through the carpet to the sub-floor. If/when you move, you can remove the bolts and no one will even know it was there. Might not work with the super cheap, thin carpets some landlords install. be careful drilling and screwing through carpet. If you catch a fiber just right it will pull a snag and run across the floor. Then the wife is pissed until she figures out she can get new carpet. Not that I ever had it happen to me...not that I will admit anyway
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At a minimum get a stack on cabinet for $200. if you are on an upper floor and don't have any serious tools in the residence, it will probably stop about 95% of all burglars that hit apartments. Esp. since most are working alone.
20 years ago, it stopped some HS kids that burgled a buddies rental in college. And that was back when they offered shop class in HS. If you want something much nicer, look at some of the modular safes. If its a rental and you can't get a security system, look into some wifi cameras that can send you alerts in case of movement. |
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So a $35k M16 needs a $15k safe? Quoted:
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A good rule of thumb that sounds reasonable (at least to me) is take what your collection is worth (being stored in the safe), divide that dollar amount in two, and that is the minimum you would want to spend on a safe protecting it. I have a Sturdy myself, and can't say enough good things about it.
So a $35k M16 needs a $15k safe? Hopefully if you have enough money for a 35k M16, you have enough money to keep it secure. Of course you need to draw the line on the dollar amount per your own total investment in firearms, but I think few of us have enough cash laying on hand for one 35k gun. However, if you have 1.5k to 10k worth of guns, I can see spending another half of that investment to keep them secure. |
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Now that I think about it, you probably just need to go ahead and get this one: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3d/01/cb/3d01cb3c99196d5fa98e63bcdfa6feac.jpg Hmmm...Dual purposes: A safe and a safe room. 
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Do you have a safe already or are you looking to get a separate safe for "NFA stuff"? I have a safe now for NFA stuff. Picked one up for the suppressors themselves to take care of the "being in possession" worry. Still looking for a good place to keep the paperwork as I do not want to keep them together. ' I don't have another one. |
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