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Posted: 2/29/2016 8:49:13 PM EDT
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Hey guys, wanted to draw on the wealth of knowledge here if if you don't mind helping me out. I need to get a M&P22c for some teaching. The best price I came across happens to be the threaded barrel model. Due to my state laws I cannot have a pistol with a threaded barrel. As a result my plan was to have my FFL weld a .22 suppressor QD attachment to the threaded extension to render it compliant, and in the process set me up for a can in the future. My plan was to order the Griffin Armament .22 QD attachment and give it to them. Is the Griffin. 22 can a good fit for the M&P22c and competitive with other .22 cans in its price range? Basically which QD would you pick, which can would you pick, and would welding the QD sleeve on work with the .22 cans on the market? The M&P22c has a fixed barrel. Thank you! Eta: I know welding a AD lug on would probably make the pistol slide un-disassemble-able. I'm OK with that. |
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I have the newest GriffArm QD. I do not have or have mounted it on the MP you seek.
Suppressor sounds just as quiet as my Sparrow, SpecterII, and DA Mask. One thing I have noticed but need more time with is lack of impact shift repeatability. I purchased it as the dedicated can for a Henry LA with the magazine tube under the barrel. Wanted the QD to make reloading with a suppressor more enjoyable (And it does.) Shooting the first 200 rounds as long as I lined up the serial number with the same lug I was good to go. Then all of a sudden it did not matter how I mounted it. The suppressors poi was all over the place and not repeatable. Still had less than 300 rounds through it without taking it apart. That was a little frustrating and I ran out of time shooting that day. I have since cleaned it with no visible damage or baffle or strikes inside. I have not had a chance to retry it. I would see if the new GriffArm monocore QD not out yet would work in your situation. Call them up and ask about your idea of permanently attach your idea of permanently attaching it. |
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Quoted: Hey guys, wanted to draw on the wealth of knowledge here if if you don't mind helping me out. I need to get a M&P22c for some teaching. The best price I came across happens to be the threaded barrel model. Due to my state laws I cannot have a pistol with a threaded barrel. As a result my plan was to have my FFL weld a .22 suppressor QD attachment to the threaded extension to render it compliant, and in the process set me up for a can in the future. My plan was to order the Griffin Armament .22 QD attachment and give it to them. Is the Griffin. 22 can a good fit for the M&P22c and competitive with other .22 cans in its price range? Basically which QD would you pick, which can would you pick, and would welding the QD sleeve on work with the .22 cans on the market? The M&P22c has a fixed barrel. Thank you! Eta: I know welding a AD lug on would probably make the pistol slide un-disassemble-able. I'm OK with that. There really aren't too many other QD options out there. Maybe the Gemtech G5-22, but that would look out of place on the M&P22c Even if you weld the QD sleeve on the thread adapter, are you still OK having the threaded portion of the barrel that the thread adapter threads onto?  |
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Quoted: There really aren't too many other QD options out there. Maybe the Gemtech G5-22, but that would look out of place on the M&P22c Even if you weld the QD sleeve on the thread adapter, are you still OK having the threaded portion of the barrel that the thread adapter threads onto? http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/MP22-Compact-barrel.jpg Quoted: Quoted: Hey guys, wanted to draw on the wealth of knowledge here if if you don't mind helping me out. I need to get a M&P22c for some teaching. The best price I came across happens to be the threaded barrel model. Due to my state laws I cannot have a pistol with a threaded barrel. As a result my plan was to have my FFL weld a .22 suppressor QD attachment to the threaded extension to render it compliant, and in the process set me up for a can in the future. My plan was to order the Griffin Armament .22 QD attachment and give it to them. Is the Griffin. 22 can a good fit for the M&P22c and competitive with other .22 cans in its price range? Basically which QD would you pick, which can would you pick, and would welding the QD sleeve on work with the .22 cans on the market? The M&P22c has a fixed barrel. Thank you! Eta: I know welding a AD lug on would probably make the pistol slide un-disassemble-able. I'm OK with that. There really aren't too many other QD options out there. Maybe the Gemtech G5-22, but that would look out of place on the M&P22c Even if you weld the QD sleeve on the thread adapter, are you still OK having the threaded portion of the barrel that the thread adapter threads onto? http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/MP22-Compact-barrel.jpg I'm not sure I understand. The QD sleeve threads directly to the threaded portion of the barrel right? If it does, and if it was welded, it would be considered just like with any current ban state that pins and welds flash hiders/muzzle breaks. I just can use the original barrel threads. A QD 3 lug isn't considered threads here. Unless I don't understand how the suppressors attach with the QD and I'm misunderstanding something. Thank you! Eta: I re read what you said and I think I may get it. I can attach the QD directly to the 22c barrel? An adapter has to be used? So I'd have to weld two things? |
Along with the picture posted above: The QD adapter would thread into the 1/2x28 adapter but that adapter then threads onto the barrel - so even if you weld the QD adapter to the 1/2x28 adapter, you still have a threaded barrel. Honestly, I wouldn't do it. You'll never be able to take down the pistol for cleaning. |
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Quoted: No, you need an adapter in betweenI'll post a picture soon http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q761/Seanquigley1/Mobile%20Uploads/A27F4716-7BDD-4E83-A510-3B8079895182_zpsioitadlo.jpg Makes sense now. Seems crazy companies don't just standardize their thread pitch. It seems every single .22 (mosquito, m&p, gsg1911, Eect) needs a special adapter. I would have to weld the adapter to threaded barrel, then QD to that. |
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Quoted: Along with the picture posted above: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j88/Engineer303/ammo_and_guns/BBDB02AB-E62B-43C5-8BA8-3C79B9FD1337_zpshhxkrktx.jpg The QD adapter would thread into the 1/2x28 adapter but that adapter then threads onto the barrel - so even if you weld the QD adapter to the 1/2x28 adapter, you still have a threaded barrel. Honestly, I wouldn't do it. You'll never be able to take down the pistol for cleaning. Unfortunately there is no way for me to legally suppress a pistol in CT unless it is integral, preban pistol with threaded barrel, or not threaded. I don't think I'd have a problem getting it clean if I dumped the barreled slide in an ultrasound tank, no? |
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Quoted: I have the newest GriffArm QD. I do not have or have mounted it on the MP you seek. Suppressor sounds just as quiet as my Sparrow, SpecterII, and DA Mask. One thing I have noticed but need more time with is lack of impact shift repeatability. I purchased it as the dedicated can for a Henry LA with the magazine tube under the barrel. Wanted the QD to make reloading with a suppressor more enjoyable (And it does.) Shooting the first 200 rounds as long as I lined up the serial number with the same lug I was good to go. Then all of a sudden it did not matter how I mounted it. The suppressors poi was all over the place and not repeatable. Still had less than 300 rounds through it without taking it apart. That was a little frustrating and I ran out of time shooting that day. I have since cleaned it with no visible damage or baffle or strikes inside. I have not had a chance to retry it. I would see if the new GriffArm monocore QD not out yet would work in your situation. Call them up and ask about your idea of permanently attach your idea of permanently attaching it. Thank you for the heads up about the updated can. It seems it is going to be possibly the quietest on the market and less FRP. Very cool. |
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Quoted: Makes sense now. Seems crazy companies don't just standardize their thread pitch. It seems every single .22 (mosquito, m&p, gsg1911, Eect) needs a special adapter. I would have to weld the adapter to threaded barrel, then QD to that. Quoted: Quoted: No, you need an adapter in betweenI'll post a picture soon http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q761/Seanquigley1/Mobile%20Uploads/A27F4716-7BDD-4E83-A510-3B8079895182_zpsioitadlo.jpg Makes sense now. Seems crazy companies don't just standardize their thread pitch. It seems every single .22 (mosquito, m&p, gsg1911, Eect) needs a special adapter. I would have to weld the adapter to threaded barrel, then QD to that. It's because you would need a huge hole in the slide if the shoulder were on the barrel. You could go with either a Buckmark or Mark pistol - or else McGuyver it with a suppressor that indexed off the muzzle, such as the Surefire Ryder. Then lathe the shoulder off the adapter and see if that will still allow you to remove the slide. |
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Quoted: It's because you would need a huge hole in the slide if the shoulder were on the barrel. You could go with either a Buckmark or Mark pistol - or else McGuyver it with a suppressor that indexed off the muzzle, such as the Surefire Ryder. Then lathe the shoulder off the adapter and see if that will still allow you to remove the slide. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No, you need an adapter in betweenI'll post a picture soon http://i1358.photobucket.com/albums/q761/Seanquigley1/Mobile%20Uploads/A27F4716-7BDD-4E83-A510-3B8079895182_zpsioitadlo.jpg Makes sense now. Seems crazy companies don't just standardize their thread pitch. It seems every single .22 (mosquito, m&p, gsg1911, Eect) needs a special adapter. I would have to weld the adapter to threaded barrel, then QD to that. It's because you would need a huge hole in the slide if the shoulder were on the barrel. You could go with either a Buckmark or Mark pistol - or else McGuyver it with a suppressor that indexed off the muzzle, such as the Surefire Ryder. Then lathe the shoulder off the adapter and see if that will still allow you to remove the slide. Most people here buy a preban Mark (Gen 2) or do an integral Mark just for those reasons. If my only.goal was suppression I would do that in a heartbeat. Issue is I want to use the .22 on my Basic Pistol students and I'm personally not comfortable teaching them on a Mark due to how the bolt/slide differs from a normal auto, as well as mag release location. I try to keep their experience as close to what their future purchase will most likely resemble. |
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Quoted: For what you are trying to do, I would recommend a Ruger or Browning Buckmark. Both of which could be modified and still allow for complete disassembly. |
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Unfortunately there is no way for me to legally suppress a pistol in CT unless it is integral, preban pistol with threaded barrel, or not threaded. I don't think I'd have a problem getting it clean if I dumped the barreled slide in an ultrasound tank, no? These pistols don't come apart the same as normal recoil operated pistols, so you won't be able to take the barreled slide off the frame to put it in an ultrasonic tank. if you look up the disassembly on you tube you'll probably see why you can't do it. I think you're best bet will be to have the flat cap that covers the threads welded or secured in place somehow. |
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Quoted: How is the threaded model plus a QD plus welding cheaper than a base model with no threads? I happened to find the threaded model at a price that would equal the regular model elsewhere even after adding the $50 or so in parts. So I'd have the same pistol but bebset up for a can in the future. |
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Quoted: These pistols don't come apart the same as normal recoil operated pistols, so you won't be able to take the barreled slide off the frame to put it in an ultrasonic tank. if you look up the disassembly on you tube you'll probably see why you can't do it. I think you're best bet will be to have the flat cap that covers the threads welded or secured in place somehow. Quoted: Quoted: Unfortunately there is no way for me to legally suppress a pistol in CT unless it is integral, preban pistol with threaded barrel, or not threaded. I don't think I'd have a problem getting it clean if I dumped the barreled slide in an ultrasound tank, no? These pistols don't come apart the same as normal recoil operated pistols, so you won't be able to take the barreled slide off the frame to put it in an ultrasonic tank. if you look up the disassembly on you tube you'll probably see why you can't do it. I think you're best bet will be to have the flat cap that covers the threads welded or secured in place somehow. Damn I was afraid of that |
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