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Posted: 1/28/2016 1:12:51 PM EDT
| Looking to purchase a 7.62 can, what do y'all recommend as a very good suppressor? Pros/cons to different cans would be appreciated. Would also like it to be able to mount to one of my AR-15s if possible... Thanks! |
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Looking to purchase a 7.62 can, what do y'all recommend as a very good suppressor? Pros/cons to different cans would be appreciated. Thanks! Is this your first can or an addition to an extensive stable? Do some reading & tell us about your hosts and firing schedule. read me read me read me read me read me read me |
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Dead Air Sandman S. Because:
1. Best mounting system. 2. Tied for best materials with the Rugged Razor. 3. Tied for best warranty with the Rugged Razor. 4. Commended by all who shoot it for its very low tone. Also look at the Rugged Razor and Griffin Armament Recce 7. All three have great mounts and materials. All three are a great size and weight. All three are in stock at Capitol Armory. |
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Nope already have one for my AR-15s. Looking for one for an AR-10 & possibly a bolt action rifle for hunting & shooting. Have Trust & ready to pull the trigger (pun intended), just looking for info on some good quality 7.62 cans... Sandman-S Yeah, that's what I'm going with as well. Have a couple surefires and it will mostly be dedicated on my 5.56 sbr. |
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Why the S over the L if its a precision bolt host? Weight? Going to be louder. Hunting means I want lighter weight. Maneuverability comes in to play as well. AR10s are heavy as is, I want lighter weight. I have poor reading comprehension but I didn't see "precision" mentioned YMMV |
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Dead Air Sandman S. Because: 1. Best mounting system. 2. Tied for best materials with the Rugged Razor. 3. Tied for best warranty with the Rugged Razor. 4. Commended by all who shoot it for its very low tone. Also look at the Rugged Razor and Griffin Armament Recce 7. All three have great mounts and materials. All three are a great size and weight. All three are in stock at Capitol Armory. People who knock the dual taper mount haven't tried it. I don't think of it as a "lesser" design. |
| Another thing I forgot to mention, can those suppressors you all mentioned be put on to one of my AR15s? I was thinking the SiCO Saker or Saker K but not really sure. There are so many options out there & I don't have the option to shoot any rifles w/ them so I'm looking to y'all for hands on experience. Thanks! |
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Another thing I forgot to mention, can those suppressors you all mentioned be put on to one of my AR15s? I was thinking the SiCO Saker or Saker K but not really sure. There are so many options out there & I don't have the option to shoot any rifles w/ them so I'm looking to y'all for hands on experience. Thanks! Yes. If it's a QD setup, you'll just buy a muzzle device with the proper thread pitch. If it's a direct thread can, you'll need thread adapters or have barrels rethreaded. |
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People who knock the dual taper mount haven't tried it. I don't think of it as a "lesser" design. Quoted:
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Dead Air Sandman S. Because: 1. Best mounting system. 2. Tied for best materials with the Rugged Razor. 3. Tied for best warranty with the Rugged Razor. 4. Commended by all who shoot it for its very low tone. Also look at the Rugged Razor and Griffin Armament Recce 7. All three have great mounts and materials. All three are a great size and weight. All three are in stock at Capitol Armory. People who knock the dual taper mount haven't tried it. I don't think of it as a "lesser" design. I'm not knocking it, I think it's the second best design on the market. The Sandman design has the following advantages over the Razor mount design: 1. The mounting system can be taken apart by the end user in a matter of seconds by hand. 2. The silencer rotates rather than the locking ring, so you can put it under a handguard. |
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Yes. If it's a QD setup, you'll just buy a muzzle device with the proper thread pitch. If it's a direct thread can, you'll need thread adapters or have barrels rethreaded. Quoted:
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Another thing I forgot to mention, can those suppressors you all mentioned be put on to one of my AR15s? I was thinking the SiCO Saker or Saker K but not really sure. There are so many options out there & I don't have the option to shoot any rifles w/ them so I'm looking to y'all for hands on experience. Thanks! Yes. If it's a QD setup, you'll just buy a muzzle device with the proper thread pitch. If it's a direct thread can, you'll need thread adapters or have barrels rethreaded. Yeah, have been looking hard at the Omega & Saker / Saker K. What do yall think about those cans? |
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Yeah, have been looking hard at the Omega & Saker / Saker K. What do yall think about those cans? Quoted:
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Another thing I forgot to mention, can those suppressors you all mentioned be put on to one of my AR15s? I was thinking the SiCO Saker or Saker K but not really sure. There are so many options out there & I don't have the option to shoot any rifles w/ them so I'm looking to y'all for hands on experience. Thanks! Yes. If it's a QD setup, you'll just buy a muzzle device with the proper thread pitch. If it's a direct thread can, you'll need thread adapters or have barrels rethreaded. Yeah, have been looking hard at the Omega & Saker / Saker K. What do yall think about those cans? The Omega is a good can. Those of us that have them, enjoy them. |
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I've been using a Saker 7.62 for a while now between a couple of AR's, and now a GAP .22-250 bolt gun. AR's use the Trifecta mount, bolt gun uses a brake mount. Tight lockup up either way. Very quiet with the 5.56 endcap, even on the .22-250 at 3800 fps. (well, quiet for what it is...) You also have the option of a direct thread mount, which is a little shorter/lighter.
The offering from Dead Air looks good too. |
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The Omega is a good can. Those of us that have them, enjoy them. Quoted:
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Another thing I forgot to mention, can those suppressors you all mentioned be put on to one of my AR15s? I was thinking the SiCO Saker or Saker K but not really sure. There are so many options out there & I don't have the option to shoot any rifles w/ them so I'm looking to y'all for hands on experience. Thanks! Yes. If it's a QD setup, you'll just buy a muzzle device with the proper thread pitch. If it's a direct thread can, you'll need thread adapters or have barrels rethreaded. Yeah, have been looking hard at the Omega & Saker / Saker K. What do yall think about those cans? The Omega is a good can. Those of us that have them, enjoy them. Alternatively, the price and NFA process discourages people from objectively anylizing their purchases |
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Another thing I forgot to mention, can those suppressors you all mentioned be put on to one of my AR15s? I was thinking the SiCO Saker or Saker K but not really sure. There are so many options out there & I don't have the option to shoot any rifles w/ them so I'm looking to y'all for hands on experience. Thanks! Yes. If it's a QD setup, you'll just buy a muzzle device with the proper thread pitch. If it's a direct thread can, you'll need thread adapters or have barrels rethreaded. Yeah, have been looking hard at the Omega & Saker / Saker K. What do yall think about those cans? The Omega is a good can. Those of us that have them, enjoy them. Alternatively, the price and NFA process discourages people from objectively anylizing their purchases So you are unhappy with yours? |
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^ no but as we've heard non stop the last 48hrs on here, the omega and ASR is not without fault. I'm not thrilled with my Specwar (ASR) but my price point makes it hard to complain.
I'm simply commenting on your blanket statement that all Omega owners seem happy. NFA has an interesting psychological effect |
| I've never claimed its without fault or claimed it's the best of the best, all I've said its a good can and I'm very happy with mine. Zero issues and zero malfunctions in a couple of thousand rounds. Because of that, yes I will recommend it as a worthwhile purchase. There are tougher cans out there, there are better mounts out there, there are quieter cans out there. The Omega is a hell of compromise though. Short, light, great dB reduction and full auto rated. People have different priorities and that's fine, but I will stand by the claim that overall, it's a damn good can. |
good on SBRs and best reduction of sound for $700 full auto rated btw
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The Omega. Comes with a direct thread mount as well as a QD mount and a muzzle brake, and SiCo will send you a flash hider for free when you register the can with them, so you will have two ASR muzzle devices to be able to inter change the Omega between direct thread applications and two rifles with QD mounts.
After having read the most frequently cited ASR mount issues, the common thread seems to be that almost all appear to be user induced. I have two Omegas and four ASR muzzle devices mounted on AR uppers and the ASR mounts and muzzle devices all work fine. And, fwiw, the ASR mount is a one hand mount, it does not take two hands to mount the suppressor, as some claim. JPK |
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The Omega. Comes with a direct thread mount as well as a QD mount and a muzzle brake, and SiCo will send you a flash hider for free when you register the can with them, so you will have two ASR muzzle devices to be able to inter change the Omega between direct thread applications and two rifles with QD mounts. After having read the most frequently cited ASR mount issues, the common thread seems to be that almost all appear to be user induced. I have two Omegas and four ASR muzzle devices mounted on AR uppers and the ASR mounts and muzzle devices all work fine. And, fwiw, the ASR mount is a one hand mount, it does not take two hands to mount the suppressor, as some claim. JPK "One hand" and "two hand" in the silencer world doesn't mean what the name implies - what it ultimately refers to is whether or not a silencer can be mounted underneath a handguard. A "two hand" operation silencer really meaning not what a person can accomplish with two hands, rather having two separate functions to release a silencer, e.g. the lock ring on the ASR, the latch on the AAC 51T, the latch on the Surefire system, the lock ring on the KAC, lock ring on the Rugged system etc. Examples of "one hand" silencers would be the Gemtech Bi-Lock and Dead Air Keymount systems. It may be a misnomer, but that's what common parlance refers to. |
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"One hand" and "two hand" in the silencer world doesn't mean what the name implies - what it ultimately refers to is whether or not a silencer can be mounted underneath a handguard. A "two hand" operation silencer really meaning not what a person can accomplish with two hands, rather having two separate functions to release a silencer, e.g. the lock ring on the ASR, the latch on the AAC 51T, the latch on the Surefire system, the lock ring on the KAC, lock ring on the Rugged system etc. Examples of "one hand" silencers would be the Gemtech Bi-Lock and Dead Air Keymount systems. It may be a misnomer, but that's what common parlance refers to. Quoted:
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The Omega. Comes with a direct thread mount as well as a QD mount and a muzzle brake, and SiCo will send you a flash hider for free when you register the can with them, so you will have two ASR muzzle devices to be able to inter change the Omega between direct thread applications and two rifles with QD mounts. After having read the most frequently cited ASR mount issues, the common thread seems to be that almost all appear to be user induced. I have two Omegas and four ASR muzzle devices mounted on AR uppers and the ASR mounts and muzzle devices all work fine. And, fwiw, the ASR mount is a one hand mount, it does not take two hands to mount the suppressor, as some claim. JPK "One hand" and "two hand" in the silencer world doesn't mean what the name implies - what it ultimately refers to is whether or not a silencer can be mounted underneath a handguard. A "two hand" operation silencer really meaning not what a person can accomplish with two hands, rather having two separate functions to release a silencer, e.g. the lock ring on the ASR, the latch on the AAC 51T, the latch on the Surefire system, the lock ring on the KAC, lock ring on the Rugged system etc. Examples of "one hand" silencers would be the Gemtech Bi-Lock and Dead Air Keymount systems. It may be a misnomer, but that's what common parlance refers to. I've only read of that reinvention of English terms here on this site. Applying normal English, "2-step process" makes more sense. ETA, a bbl that barely clears the HG is purely a styling feature associated with the commercial sector. The only "benefit" in this context that I can surmise is that it gives the appearance of the can being integral to the upper when mounted, which again, is a styling exercise. Fine if you need that, but I don't see the functional benefit, esp when heat transfer to the HG would be an issue. |
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I've only read of that reinvention of English terms here on this site. Applying normal English, "2-step process" makes more sense. Quoted:
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The Omega. Comes with a direct thread mount as well as a QD mount and a muzzle brake, and SiCo will send you a flash hider for free when you register the can with them, so you will have two ASR muzzle devices to be able to inter change the Omega between direct thread applications and two rifles with QD mounts. After having read the most frequently cited ASR mount issues, the common thread seems to be that almost all appear to be user induced. I have two Omegas and four ASR muzzle devices mounted on AR uppers and the ASR mounts and muzzle devices all work fine. And, fwiw, the ASR mount is a one hand mount, it does not take two hands to mount the suppressor, as some claim. JPK "One hand" and "two hand" in the silencer world doesn't mean what the name implies - what it ultimately refers to is whether or not a silencer can be mounted underneath a handguard. A "two hand" operation silencer really meaning not what a person can accomplish with two hands, rather having two separate functions to release a silencer, e.g. the lock ring on the ASR, the latch on the AAC 51T, the latch on the Surefire system, the lock ring on the KAC, lock ring on the Rugged system etc. Examples of "one hand" silencers would be the Gemtech Bi-Lock and Dead Air Keymount systems. It may be a misnomer, but that's what common parlance refers to. I've only read of that reinvention of English terms here on this site. Applying normal English, "2-step process" makes more sense. Agreed. 2-step or 2-function makes more sense. Ultimately it doesn't matter as long as everyone knows what people are talking about. It's just semantics in the end. |
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Agreed. 2-step or 2-function makes more sense. Ultimately it doesn't matter as long as everyone knows what people are talking about. It's just semantics in the end. Quoted:
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The Omega. Comes with a direct thread mount as well as a QD mount and a muzzle brake, and SiCo will send you a flash hider for free when you register the can with them, so you will have two ASR muzzle devices to be able to inter change the Omega between direct thread applications and two rifles with QD mounts. After having read the most frequently cited ASR mount issues, the common thread seems to be that almost all appear to be user induced. I have two Omegas and four ASR muzzle devices mounted on AR uppers and the ASR mounts and muzzle devices all work fine. And, fwiw, the ASR mount is a one hand mount, it does not take two hands to mount the suppressor, as some claim. JPK "One hand" and "two hand" in the silencer world doesn't mean what the name implies - what it ultimately refers to is whether or not a silencer can be mounted underneath a handguard. A "two hand" operation silencer really meaning not what a person can accomplish with two hands, rather having two separate functions to release a silencer, e.g. the lock ring on the ASR, the latch on the AAC 51T, the latch on the Surefire system, the lock ring on the KAC, lock ring on the Rugged system etc. Examples of "one hand" silencers would be the Gemtech Bi-Lock and Dead Air Keymount systems. It may be a misnomer, but that's what common parlance refers to. I've only read of that reinvention of English terms here on this site. Applying normal English, "2-step process" makes more sense. Agreed. 2-step or 2-function makes more sense. Ultimately it doesn't matter as long as everyone knows what people are talking about. It's just semantics in the end. Thanks for the tutorial, I had started to think the Arfcom suppressor forum was largely populated with awkward, bumbling geeks since so many couldn't get an ASR can mounted without using two hands! JPK |
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