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Posted: 9/12/2015 2:40:54 AM EDT
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Would I be making a mistake by ordering a AEM suppressor from Allen Engineering? I have a mk12 clone with ops inc brake, but I am hesitant to go through with AE because I feel like it might be out dated in terms of sound reduction and not as robust as new suppressors. There doesnt seem to be much info on the forums about this brand?
I currently have an Omega, specwar 762 and spectre II on order. |
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Would I be making a mistake by ordering a AEM suppressor from Allen Engineering? I have a mk12 clone with ops inc brake, but I am hesitant to go through with AE because I feel like it might be out dated in terms of sound reduction and not as robust as new suppressors. There doesnt seem to be much info on the forums about this brand? I currently have an Omega, specwar 762 and spectre II on order. Everyone here seems to be more than pleased with their suppressors |
| I have seem people post emails from Allen saying they will warranty their suppresors on any caliber as long as the bullet fits down the hole. Read thru the AE/OPS INC thread and you will see there are a lot of people out there that love their products. It's seems that the consensus is that they are a little heavier than modern cans but they more than make up for it in durability and sound reduction. An AE30 is on my short list once all my form 1s come back and are completed. |
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Would the AEM4 or the AEM3 work well on a Colt 6940? I don't see why either wouldn't. If I were you I'd opt for the AEM4, it's just like a 5 but a smidge lighter, shorter, and designed to work on more barrel types. I plan on buying one here soon to pull double duty for my Mk 12ish and my 12.5 uppers. Everything I've read about them says that despite a bit of heft (couple ounces depending on what you're comparing it against) you will be getting an excellent can that meters very well, will hold up against ridiculously short barrels and rough firing schedules, has a great warranty/customer service, and will generally be significantly shorter than cans with similar performance due to its reflex design. |
| I just got back from a DMR course with about a dozen shooters using suppressed rifles. My buddy's Allen suppressor was the only one that had zero signature during night shooting. Not sure of the model, but he said it was the correct one for his Mk12 Mod 1 clone. It's sound was on par with everyone else's although it is on the large size. I was impressed watching him shoot it. |
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I just got back from a DMR course with about a dozen shooters using suppressed rifles. My buddy's Allen suppressor was the only one that had zero signature during night shooting. Not sure of the model, but he said it was the correct one for his Mk12 Mod 1 clone. It's sound was on par with everyone else's although it is on the large size. I was impressed watching him shoot it. The Mk12 SPR uses an Ops 12th model, which is an AEM5. From what I've read, the AEM4 is the exact same, but designed to work across a broader spectrum of barrels. From what I've read the designers were tasked with building a suppressor for that program, and built the 12th model around the program's barrel. The AEM4 is an adaptation of that same suppressor design just made to work with a standard .700x.700 barrel step (the small notch .7" from the end of most barrels). Additionally, the AEM4 will not interfere with a 203 notch, which would matter if that sort of thing were allowed for us commoners. One is definitely on my short list, they're excellent suppressors in every respect if you can live with roughly an approximate 3-4oz of additional heft. |
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I dint own any. But I have sold a few ops inc and spent lots of time on the phone with Ron Allen over the years.
A couple of points. 1. They sound great. Great tone. 2. The POI has been consistent from what my customers have said 3. Ron Allen is great to talk to, makes a great can and is good people. They are dated. 1. They are not made of the latest geeWhiz metallurgical goodness. But they aren't overy heavy by any measure. 2. The mount . . .well the mount. . . . Seems a lot like all the brake attach shoulder to should type mounts we see today. I'd say it's a great classic can that holds its own. Against the latest and greatest. |
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How does the collar attach to the barrel for like an AEM4? So, for on an M4 profile, how would it attach and how do you know where to attach it? Also, how do these differ from the Griffin RSTA OTB? I can answer the first one. The AEM4 collar sits up against the .7"x.7" step at the end of the barrel (slight contour cut .7" from beginning of threads). I know the mount/collar setups, and what will/won't work on what types of setups can be daunting, so check out adco. They have a page explaining all of this that has helped me tremendously. The AEM series hasn't been the most 'noob friendly' suppressor family for me, as the new QD offerings are more straightforward in setup. |
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I can answer the first one. The AEM4 collar sits up against the .7"x.7" step at the end of the barrel (slight contour cut .7" from beginning of threads). I know the mount/collar setups, and what will/won't work on what types of setups can be daunting, so check out adco. They have a page explaining all of this that has helped me tremendously. The AEM series hasn't been the most 'noob friendly' suppressor family for me, as the new QD offerings are more straightforward in setup. Quoted:
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How does the collar attach to the barrel for like an AEM4? So, for on an M4 profile, how would it attach and how do you know where to attach it? Also, how do these differ from the Griffin RSTA OTB? I can answer the first one. The AEM4 collar sits up against the .7"x.7" step at the end of the barrel (slight contour cut .7" from beginning of threads). I know the mount/collar setups, and what will/won't work on what types of setups can be daunting, so check out adco. They have a page explaining all of this that has helped me tremendously. The AEM series hasn't been the most 'noob friendly' suppressor family for me, as the new QD offerings are more straightforward in setup. I was doing some looking at the RSTA from Griffin and it looks like it is designed to do what the OPs Inc/AE suppressors do, but without the two piece mounting system and no special barrel contour. |
| I've got no fancy data or testing, but have shot quite a bit with a buddy's that has the Ops 12th. I liked it enough that I am planning to pick up an AEM5 soon. It had a nice tone, no gas to the face (although granted mine are all on shorter barrels, so not very scientific). Prices are pretty good for AEM5 vs what the Ops sold for when my buddy had picked his up. |
| What would be pretty sweet is if RA would make a modified 12th model/AE30 that was threaded 3/4x24 and would index off the ramp on the front of the KAC E series (EM, EMC, EC, ECC) gas block. No brake, just thread onto the muzzle end and use the existing gas block as the 2nd POC. |
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U forgot the fully welded core.
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I dint own any. But I have sold a few ops inc and spent lots of time on the phone with Ron Allen over the years. A couple of points. 1. They sound great. Great tone. 2. The POI has been consistent from what my customers have said 3. Ron Allen is great to talk to, makes a great can and is good people. They are dated. 1. They are not made of the latest geeWhiz metallurgical goodness. But they aren't overy heavy by any measure. 2. The mount . . .well the mount. . . . Seems a lot like all the brake attach shoulder to should type mounts we see today. I'd say it's a great classic can that holds its own. Against the latest and greatest. |
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