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Posted: 4/28/2023 9:28:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nmxdavenn]
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SILENCE4U: Not to answer for Ron, but if the brake is screwed too far into the suppressor far enough that there are exposed threads in the blast chamber, those threads can get carboned up which could be an issue when you go to unscrew the suppressor. Bill Ok that makes sense. Eta: page ownage.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 12:51:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SILENCE4U: Not to answer for Ron, but if the brake is screwed too far into the suppressor far enough that there are exposed threads in the blast chamber, those threads can get carboned up which could be an issue when you go to unscrew the suppressor. Bill Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SILENCE4U: Originally Posted By dblazevich: If I don't mind the extra turns, there isn't anything hurt by having 9.5 instead of 7.5, correct? Thanks Not to answer for Ron, but if the brake is screwed too far into the suppressor far enough that there are exposed threads in the blast chamber, those threads can get carboned up which could be an issue when you go to unscrew the suppressor. Bill Thing is he isn’t using Ron’s muzzle device, he is using an OCL so it could be different. |
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Posted: 4/29/2023 6:58:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2023 1:27:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Anyone hear of another run of the M24s? I’d love to add one.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 7:35:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SaturationTech: Anyone hear of another run of the M24s? I’d love to add one. I emailed Ron and got added to the list for the next batch just a couple weeks ago. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 8:57:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GlassHouse]
[#6]
Hey guys, I’ve searched back through the pages since 79 and there isn’t a lot of info regarding any differences between the Ron Allen made aem5 vs trajectory arms. If you were in the market and had access to pick up either one, which would you go with? Trajectory arms version is slightly cheaper, but Ron Allen is the og. Which would you choose?
Thanks! |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2023 1:51:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlassHouse: Hey guys, I’ve searched back through the pages since 79 and there isn’t a lot of info regarding any differences between the Ron Allen made aem5 vs trajectory arms. If you were in the market and had access to pick up either one, which would you go with? Trajectory arms version is slightly cheaper, but Ron Allen is the og. Which would you choose? Thanks! Same parts, same procedures, same product. RonA |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 2:02:46 PM EDT
[#8]
I spoke with one of the guys making the cans at SHOT show and it sounded like he was a personal friend of Ron's and had been trained by Ron to make the cans. I don't think people have anything to worry about.
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Posted: 5/2/2023 3:17:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Trajectory Arms is local to me and they do damn good work. Alex and his team are very competent.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2023 5:36:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mesooohoppy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: Trajectory Arms is local to me and they do damn good work. Alex and his team are very competent. they are also very local to me. alex and reeve are THE SHIT. they know their stuff. super excited to see them getting into this venture. i dont have any clone correct gun, or whatever the hell these cans take. but just knowing that trajectory is making these, makes me want to get whatever host i need to get so i can support them. |
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Posted: 5/2/2023 8:50:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Just a properly profiled barrel. Easiest is an 18" AR-15. There are several companies that make barrels, usually listed as OPS or OPS Inc profile.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2023 6:52:24 PM EDT
[#12]
12.5" barrel gas port question
My setup is very punchy, even with an A5H3 buffer, it's launching brass at 1-2 O'Clock and has a good amount of recoil. Ordered a 0.069" BRT EZ tune gas tube, took my gun apart, lo-and-behold, the gas port is already 0.069" If I wanted to occasionally run it unsuppressed, should I try an even smaller gas tube size, or is that the lowest y'all would recommend? My thought is that even if I can get it to running smoothly with the A5H3 and it's under gassed with no suppressor, I could probably swap out the buffer and be back in action. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 12:16:18 AM EDT
[#13]
What buffer weight are you guys running in 12.7” Gordon guns?
I’ve never used a Geissele 42 spring - good build to experiment with this? |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 8:36:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: oldbrowndog]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dblazevich: 12.5" barrel gas port question My setup is very punchy, even with an A5H3 buffer, it's launching brass at 1-2 O'Clock and has a good amount of recoil. Ordered a 0.069" BRT EZ tune gas tube, took my gun apart, lo-and-behold, the gas port is already 0.069" If I wanted to occasionally run it unsuppressed, should I try an even smaller gas tube size, or is that the lowest y'all would recommend? My thought is that even if I can get it to running smoothly with the A5H3 and it's under gassed with no suppressor, I could probably swap out the buffer and be back in action. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dblazevich: 12.5" barrel gas port question My setup is very punchy, even with an A5H3 buffer, it's launching brass at 1-2 O'Clock and has a good amount of recoil. Ordered a 0.069" BRT EZ tune gas tube, took my gun apart, lo-and-behold, the gas port is already 0.069" If I wanted to occasionally run it unsuppressed, should I try an even smaller gas tube size, or is that the lowest y'all would recommend? My thought is that even if I can get it to running smoothly with the A5H3 and it's under gassed with no suppressor, I could probably swap out the buffer and be back in action. I have a small-port Hodge 12.5 barrel in a non-Gordon build with a Sprinco blue and an H2. The GP measures 0.0625" and it runs great suppressed and unsuppressed with 5.56 pressure ammo (M193 and Mk262). I think you'd be fine going down to at least that, or you could tell BRT your parameters and let them select the EZ tune port size for you. What buffer weight are you guys running in 12.7” Gordon guns? I’ve never used a Geissele 42 spring - good build to experiment with this? I've used the Geissele spring, and they don't add anything over a Sprinco and standard H2 buffer, in my experience. They're expensive and require Geissele's specific buffers, just don't seem to be worth the cost side-by-side. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 9:52:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: What buffer weight are you guys running in 12.7” Gordon guns? I’ve never used a Geissele 42 spring - good build to experiment with this? Running a .062" gas port on a 12.5" Colt barrel on my Gordy......H2 buffer and milspec spring. Nice ejection around 3:00-4:00 and not too gassy either.... I have the Super42 spring/buffer on some gassier rifles and they work great. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 9:55:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: What buffer weight are you guys running in 12.7” Gordon guns? I’ve never used a Geissele 42 spring - good build to experiment with this? I'm partial to the JP Silent Capture springs on all my rigs. Expensive but smooth and quiet. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 10:26:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Running a .062" gas port on a 12.5" Colt barrel on my Gordy......H2 buffer and milspec spring. Nice ejection around 3:00-4:00 and not too gassy either.... I have the Super42 spring/buffer on some gassier rifles and they work great. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Running a .062" gas port on a 12.5" Colt barrel on my Gordy......H2 buffer and milspec spring. Nice ejection around 3:00-4:00 and not too gassy either.... I have the Super42 spring/buffer on some gassier rifles and they work great. The issue is I have no idea the gas port size Originally Posted By Outrider: I'm partial to the JP Silent Capture springs on all my rigs. Expensive but smooth and quiet. I always forget about this option |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 12:45:21 PM EDT
[#18]
@k31user
Ron, any word on the 3rd Model / Gordon can/collar assembly? I was put on your list over two years ago via email. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/5/2023 1:39:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MyKACFailed]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: What buffer weight are you guys running in 12.7” Gordon guns? I’ve never used a Geissele 42 spring - good build to experiment with this? This has come up twice today, interesting. The Geissele is pointless when Sprinco (there's no "g") Cryo springs exist. The G's are actually worse, because they can be detrimental to the function of your rifle. I've had two very well know major rifle manufacturers say that the G spring is not recommended. We should have a community set of springs to pass around to people to prove this point: Have a set of buffers, three or four flavors of Sprinco springs, a MG42 and a Tubbs; pick which one works best for you order a few of them for yourself, and then pass the set on to the next person. I could almost guarantee you that very few people would be ordering the G 42. My g42 sits unused in a drawer. |
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Posted: 5/5/2023 5:58:58 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WaffenJager: @k31user Ron, any word on the 3rd Model / Gordon can/collar assembly? I was put on your list over two years ago via email. He will be making another batch this year. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2023 9:04:04 AM EDT
[#21]
Does anyone know when (or where) I can get a AEM5/30 can? Ive emailed Ron 3 times in the past month with no response.
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Posted: 5/6/2023 10:41:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 545superiority: Does anyone know when (or where) I can get a AEM5/30 can? Ive emailed Ron 3 times in the past month with no response. Sounds like soon(ish) 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2023 12:01:26 PM EDT
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I'm working on a batch of AEM5-30's but I'm a one man band now and progress is slow.
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Posted: 5/6/2023 10:09:03 PM EDT
[#24]
Do you have any 5/8” .22 cal brake kits, Ron?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2023 10:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Embittered: Do you have any 5/8” .22 cal brake kits, Ron? Those are in process as well. |
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Posted: 5/7/2023 12:39:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Those are in process as well. Actually I found one! Looks like I’m missing the spacer though. You still turning those or back to crush washers now? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2023 9:43:57 AM EDT
[#27]
Timing shims only with the 5/8 thread. Crush washer will push it too far forward.
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Posted: 5/7/2023 11:57:12 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Timing shims only with the 5/8 thread. Crush washer will push it too far forward. Thank you, Ron! |
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Posted: 5/7/2023 2:36:44 PM EDT
[#29]
Question: Would a 14.5 Midlength barrel with FSB be able to work with an AEM5 with one of the Gordy collars?
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Posted: 5/11/2023 3:28:59 PM EDT
[#30]
I have a Larue Gooseneck rail and aem5 and an idea. Would a 14.5" midlength turned down for a collar give a similar look to an 18" mod 1 as far as the exposed gas block and barrel goes? I've searched to see if someone has done this setup before but couldn't find anything.
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Posted: 5/13/2023 2:02:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _B_]
[#31]
"it was a good day"
 Attached File Attached FileCurrently prepping for rattle can job, as is tradition. eta: big thanks to Steve at adco for barrel chop and filing form 4. |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 10:32:17 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Three0h8: I have a Larue Gooseneck rail and aem5 and an idea. Would a 14.5" midlength turned down for a collar give a similar look to an 18" mod 1 as far as the exposed gas block and barrel goes? I've searched to see if someone has done this setup before but couldn't find anything. Gas port on mid-length is at 9”. Do you know what the length of the side and bottom rails are? Using this picture it looks to me like the gas block on a mid length would be exposed under the gooseneck  Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2023 6:48:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _B_: "it was a good day" https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/IMG_2035_jpeg-2815489.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236052/IMG_2036_jpeg-2815490.JPG Currently prepping for rattle can job, as is tradition. eta: big thanks to Steve at adco for barrel chop and filing form 4. Awesome setup with modern takes. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:52:06 AM EDT
[#34]
What’s everybody doing to clean carbon out of their AEM5s?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:40:35 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbutcher: What’s everybody doing to clean carbon out of their AEM5s? @rbutcher I have a simple solution that works extremely well 
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:57:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: @rbutcher I have a simple solution that works extremely well Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMCctx: Originally Posted By rbutcher: What’s everybody doing to clean carbon out of their AEM5s? @rbutcher I have a simple solution that works extremely well A mag dump?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2023 2:01:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cowbell: A mag dump? Haha no once I was restoring a badly carbon caked NT4 FH and stumbled upon vinegar and hydrogen peroxide. It had been soaking for a few hours before I showed the bros during a scraping/renewing mixture procedure, and @rbutcher informed me just how badly I'd fucked up. Opened windows and cleaned/disposed of the indiscretion properly. Haven't grown any extra appendages, but I was already an ugly MF so I can't definitively say I didn't suffer any adverse effects
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:13:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Hey I’m thinking of threading a profiling my 20 Noveske varmint barrel for the aem5 . The rail is 17’’ so they’re only 3.25” clearance . Will this be enough to make this work . I love this rifle very accurate but it always bothered me that it wasn’t threaded . It looks great when I mock it up .
  
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Posted: 5/15/2023 10:50:43 PM EDT
[#39]
By the skin of your teeth. Ron’s AEM5 print specs 3.2” minimum from muzzle while still employing the SPR collar: http://aesuppressors.com/images/sprdrawing.jpg
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Posted: 5/17/2023 10:04:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ed_Victory]
[#40]
Gentlemen, I have learned a valuable lesson:
Do not use Vibra-TITE VC-3 to secure the suppressor collar. I’m in the process of swapping out my handguard and the collar is refusing to budge. Got the bbl in the freezer and plan to hit the collar with a propane torch tomorrow. Any other tips or tricks for removing a particularly stubborn collar? And yes the set screw has been removed. ETA: The fix, unsurprisingly, was heat. 🔥 |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2023 10:37:44 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sinfulsilence: Hey I’m thinking of threading a profiling my 20 Noveske varmint barrel for the aem5 . The rail is 17’’ so they’re only 3.25” clearance . Will this be enough to make this work . I love this rifle very accurate but it always bothered me that it wasn’t threaded . It looks great when I mock it up . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/458187/IMG_1887-2818159.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/458187/IMG_1890-2818166.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/458187/IMG_1891-2818157.jpg Should be file. Suppressor is ~2 5/8” from the bare muzzle. The 3.2” measurement is to a gas block so it does interfere with the collar. |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 11:18:19 PM EDT
[#42]
If you go to our website and click suppressors, then click AE30, there is a drawing for the barrel profile. The same profile works for the AEM5. You can thread it 5/8-24 and use a 5/8 thread brake, or thread it 1/2-28 and use a regular brake.
Barrel would need to be .925 minimum. |
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Posted: 5/18/2023 12:07:24 AM EDT
[#43]
Received and ADCO shipping notice
Gordon upper en route 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2023 9:37:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MK3110]
[#44]
  AEM5-30 on a 6.5CM. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 1:59:24 PM EDT
[#45]
Would a 14.5" midlength and a 11.75" rail have enough room to mount the aem5? I'm wanting to cut down a Geissele MK16 to 11.75 so it doesn't interrupt any of the mlok slots and I think my math puts the suppressor .1 away from the rail I just wanted to double check before committing to both the rail chop and barrel profiling.
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Posted: 5/19/2023 2:38:11 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Three0h8: Would a 14.5" midlength and a 11.75" rail have enough room to mount the aem5? I'm wanting to cut down a Geissele MK16 to 11.75 so it doesn't interrupt any of the mlok slots and I think my math puts the suppressor .1 away from the rail I just wanted to double check before committing to both the rail chop and barrel profiling. Not what you asked, but kind of related. You can have a mid-gas barrel cut to 13.2X” and use a tapered gas block with standard 10.5” Mk16 to get a flush fit. I put this together just to see if it worked: 
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Posted: 5/19/2023 11:37:02 PM EDT
[#47]
Anyone have a ballpark figure of what Ops Inc 12th models sell for these days?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2023 1:59:15 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: Not what you asked, but kind of related. You can have a mid-gas barrel cut to 13.2X" and use a tapered gas block with standard 10.5" Mk16 to get a flush fit. I put this together just to see if it worked: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/2DD5EDD7-AB83-447C-AE01-2AC3CA3E483C-2821967.jpg |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 5:33:01 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StampCollector87: Anyone have a ballpark figure of what Ops Inc 12th models sell for these days? An Allen Engineering manufactured? About 700-750 An actual Ops marked one? No clue |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2023 2:53:54 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StampCollector87: Anyone have a ballpark figure of what Ops Inc 12th models sell for these days? Kind of depends on where it's been. If it was originally sold to mil. it will probably sell for more than one that was originally sold to a guy playing call of duty in his parents basement. |
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