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Anyone know where to source the spacers that come with the AEM brake for the AEM5? Not the shims or a crush washer, but the spacer. I've either lost one or one didn't come with one of the brakes I purchased. Would like to snag some so that I've got extras on hand.
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I believe Ron Allen is the source of the spacer.
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Originally Posted By Green0: When I went to Sniper School the schoolhouse had a couple M24A2's in inventory, and the instructors shot one a couple times during the course, just getting a little trigger time. I remember it being odd to see one, aka there were only maybe 2 M24A2 rifles at the schoolhouse. The M24A2 was not very common. View Quote This is the schoolhouse rifle I was shooting. We did only have two. This was before I got the newer bottom metal sent over that took the AI mags. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Hidesite: This is the schoolhouse rifle I was shooting. We did only have two. This was before I got the newer bottom metal sent over that took the AI mags. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1891/DSC03003__Large__JPG-2380470.JPG View Quote Cool! I wasn't aware of the magazine change. Getting the number right is kind of a long range Kim's game haha. Coming up on 14 years. |
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I've had a couple of M24's here at the shop over the years(quite a few years ago actually). The Remington Military Marketing guys dropped by on the way to Shot Show once as well.
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I'm out right now. Batch in process, 3 weeks or so.
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Originally Posted By k31user: I've had a couple of M24's here at the shop over the years(quite a few years ago actually). The Remington Military Marketing guys dropped by on the way to Shot Show once as well. RonA View Quote We have a pair of M24’s here but not A2’s, they are std m-24’s. Putting a suppressor on an m-24 is a pretty substantial upgrade, as would be drill/ream and dowel pinning the base or bases (in later models) to the action. The latter wasn’t a modification offered in the A2 package. I skim bedded the base only not screws on my rifle here with loctite 650f red permanent sealant and over torqued the 8-40’s to 28 in lbs from the factory which seemed around 18. I don’t know if that would resolve that or not. The issue rifles would change windage of zero ~+-1moa after slight handling misshaps like tipping over off the 9” bipod to the bed of a truck. I think the base would slip side to side a few thousandths when encountering a slight handling impact like that. The Marine m40A_ series base is lugged and is stuffed into the clip slots of the action and that makes its zero substantially more durable at least when the fit is size on size as in the only example I have put a base on. That was essentially a press fit. |
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I suppose the bores on AEM5s are too tight for 6mmARC?
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
View Quote Is this barrel profiled to the AE30 print on Ron’s site? This plus a brake gets you the AEM5-30 mounted with as much barrel meat one can have, is that right? |
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That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him?
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Originally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? Originally Posted By bradpierson26: I suppose the bores on AEM5s are too tight for 6mmARC? |
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Originally Posted By YeOldeCircles: So the same thing but longer OTB dimension/further back taper (and different threads). I guess my question is whether or not a barrel profiled to the AE30 print + .30cal AEM brake = collarless mounting for AEM5-30. That’s what you were originally going for in your build @outrider is that right? There’s a post in this thread where @unclemoak shares the dimensions of various AEM5/Ops 12th style cans. The aperture is large enough to physically pass a .264 diameter bullet through, but you’d likely want more clearance. IIRC his AEM5 bored for 6mm ARC had a .3xx aperture rather than the .27x aperture Ron is making these days. View Quote Ron told me to use the AE30 print with the muzzle threads being .625 long. |
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Just finished another batch of AEM5's. Still behind though.
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Originally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? View Quote Yup, and he did a great job. Not sure how much more accurate adding the can could make it. day 106 of the eform Doing some blasting this weekend and was hoping to have it approved before then |
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Originally Posted By Shlouf: Yup, and he did a great job. Not sure how much more accurate adding the can could make it. day 106 of the eform Doing some blasting this weekend and was hoping to have it approved before then View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Shlouf: Originally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? Yup, and he did a great job. Not sure how much more accurate adding the can could make it. day 106 of the eform Doing some blasting this weekend and was hoping to have it approved before then Damn |
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
Originally Posted By bradpierson26: I’m on 110 Damn View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By Shlouf: Originally Posted By boynty77: That's a M24 suppressor profile with a 11/16x24 thread. I believe RW Snyder Gunsmithing did that build for him? Yup, and he did a great job. Not sure how much more accurate adding the can could make it. day 106 of the eform Doing some blasting this weekend and was hoping to have it approved before then Damn I feel so sorry for y'all as I received two stamps yesterday that were just shy of a year. I've been thinking about what to do with my AEM5-30 and have decided to pursue a micro bolt action .300 BLK SBR. Should be a fun one. |
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Originally Posted By 20andOUT: Stamp came in last night. Took the new AEM5 out this morning. I don’t know what exactly I was expecting, but this went well beyond. So much more quiet that any of my other suppressors on 223. I was shooting out to 600 with a 16” WOA barrel (breaking that in as well) and the whole package came together very nicely. I am excited to get to work on tuning a load for this. It shot amazing with the 77gr load I had on hand for the mk12-ish. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/F3B6778D-1903-499F-AEFD-8B73593F8390-2391742.jpg -Mike View Quote Man, what a nice range. Where abouts in SC is that? Private? |
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Originally Posted By Captain92: Man, what a nice range. Where abouts in SC is that? Private? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Captain92: Originally Posted By 20andOUT: Stamp came in last night. Took the new AEM5 out this morning. I don’t know what exactly I was expecting, but this went well beyond. So much more quiet that any of my other suppressors on 223. I was shooting out to 600 with a 16” WOA barrel (breaking that in as well) and the whole package came together very nicely. I am excited to get to work on tuning a load for this. It shot amazing with the 77gr load I had on hand for the mk12-ish. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/F3B6778D-1903-499F-AEFD-8B73593F8390-2391742.jpg -Mike Man, what a nice range. Where abouts in SC is that? Private? PANTEO in Swansea. It is in the midlands. I am very happy since relocating to SC and this range is a big part of that. Cardboard at 100; Plates and cardboard at 2,3,4,5, and 600 (expanding to 800 soon). They also have several pistol bays with steel and a rimfire bay. You can also use the general purpose bay for close in rifle practice, transitions, moving, etc. No stupid rules either. I am out there at opening almost every Saturday. It is public, just the usual safety brief for the first time and a range fee. ————————- Back on topic of the AE suppressors though, I am kicking around the idea of picking up a second AEM5… is the best move still to just back order with one of the usual vendors that get these in? -Mike |
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Originally Posted By 20andOUT: PANTEO in Swansea. It is in the midlands. I am very happy since relocating to SC and this range is a big part of that. Cardboard at 100; Plates and cardboard at 2,3,4,5, and 600 (expanding to 800 soon). They also have several pistol bays with steel and a rimfire bay. You can also use the general purpose bay for close in rifle practice, transitions, moving, etc. No stupid rules either. I am out there at opening almost every Saturday. It is public, just the usual safety brief for the first time and a range fee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/07E6DAFA-917F-4543-A26D-5E12182429E4-2392504.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/84B468B0-AE91-4E63-BFE0-2223546C59BD-2392503.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/8CECCF5E-E229-4260-818D-6CD76B0BE4C9-2392506.jpg ————————- Back on topic of the AE suppressors though, I am kicking around the idea of picking up a second AEM5… is the best move still to just back order with one of the usual vendors that get these in? -Mike View Quote Yeah, that's what I would do. Just sign up for email alerts or reach out to individual dealers and see if they have a wait list etc. And thanks for info on that range. Wish I was closer to it. |
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Originally Posted By 20andOUT: PANTEO in Swansea. It is in the midlands. I am very happy since relocating to SC and this range is a big part of that. Cardboard at 100; Plates and cardboard at 2,3,4,5, and 600 (expanding to 800 soon). They also have several pistol bays with steel and a rimfire bay. You can also use the general purpose bay for close in rifle practice, transitions, moving, etc. No stupid rules either. I am out there at opening almost every Saturday. It is public, just the usual safety brief for the first time and a range fee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/07E6DAFA-917F-4543-A26D-5E12182429E4-2392504.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/84B468B0-AE91-4E63-BFE0-2223546C59BD-2392503.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/8CECCF5E-E229-4260-818D-6CD76B0BE4C9-2392506.jpg ————————- Back on topic of the AE suppressors though, I am kicking around the idea of picking up a second AEM5… is the best move still to just back order with one of the usual vendors that get these in? -Mike View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 20andOUT: Originally Posted By Captain92: Originally Posted By 20andOUT: Stamp came in last night. Took the new AEM5 out this morning. I don’t know what exactly I was expecting, but this went well beyond. So much more quiet that any of my other suppressors on 223. I was shooting out to 600 with a 16” WOA barrel (breaking that in as well) and the whole package came together very nicely. I am excited to get to work on tuning a load for this. It shot amazing with the 77gr load I had on hand for the mk12-ish. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/F3B6778D-1903-499F-AEFD-8B73593F8390-2391742.jpg -Mike Man, what a nice range. Where abouts in SC is that? Private? PANTEO in Swansea. It is in the midlands. I am very happy since relocating to SC and this range is a big part of that. Cardboard at 100; Plates and cardboard at 2,3,4,5, and 600 (expanding to 800 soon). They also have several pistol bays with steel and a rimfire bay. You can also use the general purpose bay for close in rifle practice, transitions, moving, etc. No stupid rules either. I am out there at opening almost every Saturday. It is public, just the usual safety brief for the first time and a range fee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/07E6DAFA-917F-4543-A26D-5E12182429E4-2392504.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/84B468B0-AE91-4E63-BFE0-2223546C59BD-2392503.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77352/8CECCF5E-E229-4260-818D-6CD76B0BE4C9-2392506.jpg ————————- Back on topic of the AE suppressors though, I am kicking around the idea of picking up a second AEM5… is the best move still to just back order with one of the usual vendors that get these in? -Mike I wound up doing a backorder through DSG quite a while ago. Took about 10 months for it to come in. Then filed the paperwork and am about 179 days into that (pre e-file). Wish I woulda backordered 2 at the time instead of just the one. |
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Received an AEM5, Thanks to Ron and the Allen Engineering team. The can looks beautiful. It appears to be perfectly executed. A very nicely manufactured silencer.
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Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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Anyone that has contacted me in the past about Gordon Clones send me an email of something showing date of contact and I'll go by earliest date.
Have a few left after a couple of dealer orders. |
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Not a Tennessee Squire
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Email sent to Ron.
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Where does one find A2 uppers these days - either stripped or complete?
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Where does one find A2 uppers these days - either stripped or complete? View Quote Last time I picked one up, was from Fulton Armory....was couple yrs ago. Eta: Was stripped. Just now looked, they don't have any. There are several on GB, but sheesh....prices are all over place. |
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Where does one find A2 uppers these days - either stripped or complete? View Quote EE or facebook groups. Prices are high due to supply/demand. Haven't been made in a while and there has been a resurgence in retro interest. Last one I inquired about dude wanted 300 for an A2 upper with forward assist and dust cover. C7 uppers are even more than that. |
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That which does not kill us makes us stronger. - Friedrich Nietzsche
I've stayed relatively employed most of my adult life. That should count as miracle #1 - Wandering_Moses |
Good luck man.
They have all but dried up these days at least at any decent prices. If you do find one the markup is ridiculous at the moment. |
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Originally Posted By k31user: Anyone that has contacted me in the past about Gordon Clones send me an email of something showing date of contact and I'll go by earliest date. Have a few left after a couple of dealer orders. View Quote Sent my via ar15 generated email and can't seem to find it now :/ |
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Originally Posted By Captain92: Last time I picked one up, was from Fulton Armory....was couple yrs ago. Eta: Was stripped. Just now looked, they don't have any. There are several on GB, but sheesh....prices are all over place. View Quote I heard it direct from several manufacturers: The forge companies are not making A1 and A2 uppers, and do not plan to for at least 6 months, and then plan on a wait to get into distribution channels and whatever waitlists are out there. What I heard was basic business logic: getting harder to get quality aluminum, as the trace metals in the alloys come from Russia and China, and the forge machines are working at capacity producing M4/A4 uppers, so no time to stop the machines and do a run that represents >0.05 % of the overall forge market. Now, in the meantime, you have the old Nodak, now H&R, with their own forges but still trying to figure out how they are going to build and sell. You have the Russian Paint guy looking to buy a forge, and make 'em the right way, but that is a year away, and you have DPMS (which is owned by the same company who owns H&R) coming out with some retro builds. |
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@k31user
Thank you for finding that email. I replied back. |
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Looks like an M24 but if you can scale the drawing, a 12th-30 is 10x the diameter long and an M24 is a bit over 11x the diameter.
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Dont call it a comeback, Been here for years.
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Originally Posted By Redoubt99: Ive got more suppressed AR's than I could even use at this point, but my mk12 with an AE can is by far my favorite... https://i.ibb.co/RDg4yJt/IMG-0348.jpg View Quote Agreed. My AEM5 probably has more rounds through it than all my other centerfire rifle cans combined. |
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finally got form 4 approval for my m24 can but my dealer is closed for vacation all next week
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Damn it man, that sucks!!!! You're gonna love that can.
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Originally Posted By goloud: Every time I visit this thread I get the urge to build a bolt gun with a profiled barrel. Sexy and super quiet. View Quote can ADCO @bigbore do this threading? i will call them tomorrow about it as they are closed today. i wonder what the current turn around time is. im dumb and have been thinking about my 223 bolt action all wrong. its been threaded 5/8x24 using a direct thread 30 cal can for a couple of years now. need to cut the barrel at those threads, have it reprofiled/collar installed and get it threaded up for one of my AEM5s. |
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