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Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Is there an upper limit for how many turns are too much on the AEM5? I got 10 full turns Youre fine. Thank you sir. You guys profiled the barrel and made the collar, so I figured it was good to go. As an aside, how did you first get involved with Ops/become interested in their cans? |
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Originally Posted By Cwgibson78:
I'm glad I found this thread as I had some questions about the AE suppressors. The build I am planning is either a centurion arms 12.5in barrel with fsb and the c4 cutout rail or a 12.5in ca barrel with 9.5 cmr rail. Would these setups be gtg or would additional work be required. If they need any work I would just substitute a DD 12.5 barrel. View Quote You can use a 12.5" FSP barrel with a FSP rail and still be OK. You just need the M4 adaptor collar to make it work. You can also use a 12.5" non-FSP barrel with a LPGB and up to a 10" rail with the M4 adaptor collar and it will also work. Make sure whatever barrel you get has the 11/16" contour step on the tip of it behind the FH threads for the collar to work. |
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Originally Posted By k31user:
As an aside, how did you first get involved with Ops/become interested in their cans? We'll just leave it at that. No one would believe half the shit involved in that process over the last 10 yrs. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By k31user:
As an aside, how did you first get involved with Ops/become interested in their cans? Nice to see you here Ron. I hope Allen Engineering is going gangbusters. I love my AE30 and cant wait for my AEM5 to clear. Keep up the good work! |
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
We'll just leave it at that. No one would believe half the shit involved in that process over the last 10 yrs. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By k31user:
As an aside, how did you first get involved with Ops/become interested in their cans? We'll just leave it at that. No one would believe half the shit involved in that process over the last 10 yrs. Haha. |
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"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
You can use a 12.5" FSP barrel with a FSP rail and still be OK. You just need the M4 adaptor collar to make it work. You can also use a 12.5" non-FSP barrel with a LPGB and up to a 10" rail with the M4 adaptor collar and it will also work. Make sure whatever barrel you get has the 11/16" contour step on the tip of it behind the FH threads for the collar to work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By Cwgibson78:
I'm glad I found this thread as I had some questions about the AE suppressors. The build I am planning is either a centurion arms 12.5in barrel with fsb and the c4 cutout rail or a 12.5in ca barrel with 9.5 cmr rail. Would these setups be gtg or would additional work be required. If they need any work I would just substitute a DD 12.5 barrel. You can use a 12.5" FSP barrel with a FSP rail and still be OK. You just need the M4 adaptor collar to make it work. You can also use a 12.5" non-FSP barrel with a LPGB and up to a 10" rail with the M4 adaptor collar and it will also work. Make sure whatever barrel you get has the 11/16" contour step on the tip of it behind the FH threads for the collar to work. Thanks for the help, I have an email in to Centurion Arms to find out exactly what their numbers are at the threads but I'm pretty sure it is .680 so I think I am good. Thanks again for the help. |
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Ops Inc 12th Model https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xnFcjxz3XrI/VZ2re4w6MrI/AAAAAAAALT0/QRRxqOyujNQ/s800-Ic42/urxiii_spr_16_btshot.png View Quote Awesome! I'm doing the same thing, just with a Urx ii. |
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Allen Engineering for me.
13 inch barrel max loads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJb2ayYf0Tk |
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Ron or Bigbore,
Is this really an improvement? "Second, the barrel has the Mk 12 barrel collar shoulder displaced rearward 0.250", providing three more complete rotations of the suppressor onto the muzzle device, a shortcoming of the original design." MSTN SPR barrel |
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Originally Posted By PraesulPresul1:
Ron or Bigbore, Is this really an improvement? "Second, the barrel has the Mk 12 barrel collar shoulder displaced rearward 0.250", providing three more complete rotations of the suppressor onto the muzzle device, a shortcoming of the original design." MSTN SPR barrel View Quote The blast/reflex chamber size remains the same and all that does is place the OPS/AE brake closer to the first baffle. I'm not sure how that helps at all... Besides this fact, $510 for that barrel is asinine. You can get an 18" SPR SS barrel from Ballistic Advantage for $180 all day long. |
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
The blast/reflex chamber size remains the same and all that does is place the OPS/AE brake closer to the first baffle. I'm not sure how that helps at all... Besides this fact, $510 for that barrel is asinine. You can get an 18" SPR SS barrel from Ballistic Advantage for $180 all day long. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By PraesulPresul1:
Ron or Bigbore, Is this really an improvement? "Second, the barrel has the Mk 12 barrel collar shoulder displaced rearward 0.250", providing three more complete rotations of the suppressor onto the muzzle device, a shortcoming of the original design." MSTN SPR barrel The blast/reflex chamber size remains the same and all that does is place the OPS/AE brake closer to the first baffle. I'm not sure how that helps at all... Besides this fact, $510 for that barrel is asinine. You can get an 18" SPR SS barrel from Ballistic Advantage for $180 all day long. It also can cause the forward threads to incur into the blast chamber. If the threads get coated with carbon, it's a bear to back out. |
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Kinda want to get a .223 bolt gun to use with my AEM5 - wonder how much fun that would be?
I've always felt I had to get at least something in .308 for a bolt gun to be fun, but I imagine .223 bolts are just as fun, especially when suppressed? |
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Sadly my AEM5 and Mk12 are in different states so I cant contribute to this thread.
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Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Kinda want to get a .223 bolt gun to use with my AEM5 - wonder how much fun that would be? I've always felt I had to get at least something in .308 for a bolt gun to be fun, but I imagine .223 bolts are just as fun, especially when suppressed? View Quote Probably be an awesome package. Would be fun to load some subs for it. |
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"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
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Canadian contract flash hider for 12th Model brake:
http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t567/homeinvader/CF35B710-8C4F-423B-9D1B-4A893BC153CE_zpsc4a7qhlq.jpg This looks like a thread protector that doubles as a flash suppressor... Are these available? I looked on the Smith website but could not find them. |
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Originally Posted By rust4brains:
Canadian contract flash hider for 12th Model brake: http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t567/homeinvader/CF35B710-8C4F-423B-9D1B-4A893BC153CE_zpsc4a7qhlq.jpg This looks like a thread protector that doubles as a flash suppressor... Are these available? I looked on the Smith website but could not find them. View Quote Check Adco. On my phone right now, but I think they have them. https://www.adcofirearms.com/acc/productLine_Bq.cfm Nvm. Couldn't see the pic from my phone. |
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How are you liking that scope? Tempted to pick one up.
Originally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Never actually took notice, but looks like I'm at about 7 turns for my AEM5. EDIT: for the page ownage - http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j352/javaman85/P1010439_zps5jq1gnjk.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By rgb: How are you liking that scope? Tempted to pick one up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rgb: How are you liking that scope? Tempted to pick one up. Originally Posted By wayfaerer320: Never actually took notice, but looks like I'm at about 7 turns for my AEM5. EDIT: for the page ownage - http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j352/javaman85/P1010439_zps5jq1gnjk.jpg It's a great scope. Definitely recommend it. |
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Originally Posted By rust4brains:
Canadian contract flash hider for 12th Model brake: http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t567/homeinvader/CF35B710-8C4F-423B-9D1B-4A893BC153CE_zpsc4a7qhlq.jpg This looks like a thread protector that doubles as a flash suppressor... Are these available? I looked on the Smith website but could not find them. View Quote This thingy has no threads on the outside of it? I was under the impression that this was the CA contract vortex FH: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/965652/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte |
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
The blast/reflex chamber size remains the same and all that does is place the OPS/AE brake closer to the first baffle. I'm not sure how that helps at all... Besides this fact, $510 for that barrel is asinine. You can get an 18" SPR SS barrel from Ballistic Advantage for $180 all day long. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By PraesulPresul1:
Ron or Bigbore, Is this really an improvement? "Second, the barrel has the Mk 12 barrel collar shoulder displaced rearward 0.250", providing three more complete rotations of the suppressor onto the muzzle device, a shortcoming of the original design." MSTN SPR barrel The blast/reflex chamber size remains the same and all that does is place the OPS/AE brake closer to the first baffle. I'm not sure how that helps at all... Besides this fact, $510 for that barrel is asinine. You can get an 18" SPR SS barrel from Ballistic Advantage for $180 all day long. Actually, the barrel contour was changed when we started selling suppressors to the civilian market, but collars are available for pretty much any diameter, step length combination as long as there is enough room. M4 style suppressors need about 2.2" from the bare muzzle to the first rearward obstruction(gas block, front sight, etc.). AEM5's need around 2.7" minimum. |
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
This thingy has no threads on the outside of it? I was under the impression that this was the CA contract vortex FH: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/965652/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By rust4brains:
Canadian contract flash hider for 12th Model brake: http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t567/homeinvader/CF35B710-8C4F-423B-9D1B-4A893BC153CE_zpsc4a7qhlq.jpg This looks like a thread protector that doubles as a flash suppressor... Are these available? I looked on the Smith website but could not find them. This thingy has no threads on the outside of it? I was under the impression that this was the CA contract vortex FH: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/965652/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte It's not a Vortex, but would probably thread on to the Vortex or any other OPS compatible muzzle device. This was made at the request of CA forces to give them some degree of flash suppression while still using the 12th Model brake. Yes, it threads onto the 12th model brake just like the thread protector, but would also work on the OPS INC/AE A2 flash hider, though this would be redundant. |
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If you want to expand your collection, I have AEM5-30 suppressors in stock now.
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"... Is that so tough to understand?
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"When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." - Dr. Samuel Johnson
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Originally Posted By Homeinvader:
It's not a Vortex, but would probably thread on to the Vortex or any other OPS compatible muzzle device. This was made at the request of CA forces to give them some degree of flash suppression while still using the 12th Model brake. Yes, it threads onto the 12th model brake just like the thread protector, but would also work on the OPS INC/AE A2 flash hider, though this would be redundant. Bought it from Ron many years ago, but never saw them again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Homeinvader:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By rust4brains:
Canadian contract flash hider for 12th Model brake: http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t567/homeinvader/CF35B710-8C4F-423B-9D1B-4A893BC153CE_zpsc4a7qhlq.jpg This looks like a thread protector that doubles as a flash suppressor... Are these available? I looked on the Smith website but could not find them. This thingy has no threads on the outside of it? I was under the impression that this was the CA contract vortex FH: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/965652/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte It's not a Vortex, but would probably thread on to the Vortex or any other OPS compatible muzzle device. This was made at the request of CA forces to give them some degree of flash suppression while still using the 12th Model brake. Yes, it threads onto the 12th model brake just like the thread protector, but would also work on the OPS INC/AE A2 flash hider, though this would be redundant. Bought it from Ron many years ago, but never saw them again. ....Ron? Ron Allen? k31? Sir? Do you have any of these available? |
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Originally Posted By rust4brains:
....Ron? Ron Allen? k31? Sir? Do you have any of these available? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By rust4brains:
Originally Posted By Homeinvader:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By rust4brains:
Canadian contract flash hider for 12th Model brake: http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t567/homeinvader/CF35B710-8C4F-423B-9D1B-4A893BC153CE_zpsc4a7qhlq.jpg This looks like a thread protector that doubles as a flash suppressor... Are these available? I looked on the Smith website but could not find them. This thingy has no threads on the outside of it? I was under the impression that this was the CA contract vortex FH: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/965652/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte It's not a Vortex, but would probably thread on to the Vortex or any other OPS compatible muzzle device. This was made at the request of CA forces to give them some degree of flash suppression while still using the 12th Model brake. Yes, it threads onto the 12th model brake just like the thread protector, but would also work on the OPS INC/AE A2 flash hider, though this would be redundant. Bought it from Ron many years ago, but never saw them again. ....Ron? Ron Allen? k31? Sir? Do you have any of these available? They are not legal in the U.S. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
They are not legal in the U.S. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By rust4brains:
Originally Posted By Homeinvader:
Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By rust4brains:
Canadian contract flash hider for 12th Model brake: http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t567/homeinvader/CF35B710-8C4F-423B-9D1B-4A893BC153CE_zpsc4a7qhlq.jpg This looks like a thread protector that doubles as a flash suppressor... Are these available? I looked on the Smith website but could not find them. This thingy has no threads on the outside of it? I was under the impression that this was the CA contract vortex FH: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/965652/smith-enterprise-vortex-flash-hider-1-2-28-thread-with-m22x10-outside-thread-for-ops-inc-suppressor-ar-15-matte It's not a Vortex, but would probably thread on to the Vortex or any other OPS compatible muzzle device. This was made at the request of CA forces to give them some degree of flash suppression while still using the 12th Model brake. Yes, it threads onto the 12th model brake just like the thread protector, but would also work on the OPS INC/AE A2 flash hider, though this would be redundant. Bought it from Ron many years ago, but never saw them again. ....Ron? Ron Allen? k31? Sir? Do you have any of these available? They are not legal in the U.S. Could you explain why this is? It seems it would fall in lines with the "blast jackets" that some companies are now selling. Just looking for education. |
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Originally Posted By west2746:
Could you explain why this is? It seems it would fall in lines with the "blast jackets" that some companies are now selling. Just looking for education. View Quote Some day "blast jackets" may be considered a no-no by the NFA branch. The OPS INC Canadian flash hider/blast jacket had a cap on the end. When installed over a brake, you had a small hollow device on the end of the muzzle, with 2 baffles. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
Some day "blast jackets" may be considered a no-no by the NFA branch. The OPS INC Canadian flash hider/blast jacket had a cap on the end. When installed over a brake, you had a small hollow device on the end of the muzzle, with 2 baffles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By west2746:
Could you explain why this is? It seems it would fall in lines with the "blast jackets" that some companies are now selling. Just looking for education. Some day "blast jackets" may be considered a no-no by the NFA branch. The OPS INC Canadian flash hider/blast jacket had a cap on the end. When installed over a brake, you had a small hollow device on the end of the muzzle, with 2 baffles. well I'll be... ATF jerks |
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Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
I'd love to throw a AEM30 on Mk12 ModMH .308... http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/supermoto68/mk12%20mod%20dan_zpsfwsdmpt2.jpg I have the AE brake but need a custom locating collar... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
Originally Posted By bigbore:
If you want to expand your collection, I have AEM5-30 suppressors in stock now. I'd love to throw a AEM30 on Mk12 ModMH .308... http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/supermoto68/mk12%20mod%20dan_zpsfwsdmpt2.jpg I have the AE brake but need a custom locating collar... I'd like to avoid breaking down the gun... Any chance for a custom collar for my (hopefully) future suppressor purchase? |
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"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"... Is that so tough to understand?
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Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
I'd like to avoid breaking down the gun... Any chance for a custom collar for my (hopefully) future suppressor purchase? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
Originally Posted By bigbore:
If you want to expand your collection, I have AEM5-30 suppressors in stock now. I'd love to throw a AEM30 on Mk12 ModMH .308... http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/supermoto68/mk12%20mod%20dan_zpsfwsdmpt2.jpg I have the AE brake but need a custom locating collar... I'd like to avoid breaking down the gun... Any chance for a custom collar for my (hopefully) future suppressor purchase? The barrel needs to be removed so it can be contoured. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
The barrel needs to be removed so it can be contoured. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
Originally Posted By moose-hunter:
Originally Posted By bigbore:
If you want to expand your collection, I have AEM5-30 suppressors in stock now. I'd love to throw a AEM30 on Mk12 ModMH .308... http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k149/supermoto68/mk12%20mod%20dan_zpsfwsdmpt2.jpg I have the AE brake but need a custom locating collar... I'd like to avoid breaking down the gun... Any chance for a custom collar for my (hopefully) future suppressor purchase? The barrel needs to be removed so it can be contoured. If it can't be avoided, then it needs to be done. I submitted a couple questions through your website. |
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What is everyone using for a suppressor case for the AEM-5? I got mine yesterday and need it now.
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Sheep, Sheepdog or Wolf? What are you?
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Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Why do you need a case for a suppressor? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By AGR1279:
What is everyone using for a suppressor case for the AEM-5? I got mine yesterday and need it now. Dan Why do you need a case for a suppressor? I'm not to sure of keeping it on the gun all the time and want a place to keep it safe. That's it. Dan |
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Sheep, Sheepdog or Wolf? What are you?
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Originally Posted By KOBK:
Great thread for a great product. I only have the AEM5 (for now) but hopefully pick up another one this fall. ADCO built SPR with AEM5 <a href="http://s196.photobucket.com/user/nashvillito/media/DSCF3118_zpshvqo4a1u.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa253/nashvillito/DSCF3118_zpshvqo4a1u.jpg</a> HOLLAND and ADCO converted 12.5 BCM SS upper fitted for the AEM5 <a href="http://s196.photobucket.com/user/nashvillito/media/DSCF3144_zpsmlxs43et.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa253/nashvillito/DSCF3144_zpsmlxs43et.jpg</a> The 12.5 just came this week, I am excited to get to the range this weekend and see how it handles. View Quote As usual, great collection. Look forward to hearing the range report on that shorty |
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Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
As usual, great collection. Look forward to hearing the range report on that shorty View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Originally Posted By KOBK:
Great thread for a great product. I only have the AEM5 (for now) but hopefully pick up another one this fall. ADCO built SPR with AEM5 <a href="http://s196.photobucket.com/user/nashvillito/media/DSCF3118_zpshvqo4a1u.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa253/nashvillito/DSCF3118_zpshvqo4a1u.jpg</a> HOLLAND and ADCO converted 12.5 BCM SS upper fitted for the AEM5 <a href="http://s196.photobucket.com/user/nashvillito/media/DSCF3144_zpsmlxs43et.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa253/nashvillito/DSCF3144_zpsmlxs43et.jpg</a> The 12.5 just came this week, I am excited to get to the range this weekend and see how it handles. As usual, great collection. Look forward to hearing the range report on that shorty It sounds just like the MK12 but IMO is not a good setup. Carbines are better suited for the shorter suppressors. I had an 11" and 12" with my 12th model before I diversified and it was unwieldly, front-heavy, and has lots of kick and blowback. |
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Here is mine. Very sweet shooting. Thanks Neal. Re added pictures due to photo buckets fuck you guy......
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Sheep, Sheepdog or Wolf? What are you?
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Wow this might be my new favorite thread.
Here is my aem5. 22 cal sitting on my new project. Retro by Kyle Plante, on Flickr On my Mod0 House by Kyle Plante, on Flickr On my ModH 12s by Kyle Plante, on Flickr 14.5 Mini Mod H by Kyle Plante, on Flickr I loooove this can! |
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