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Posted: 7/4/2014 11:24:25 AM EDT
After a very long wait, I got my Osprey 9. I've been buying up the HPR Emcon Suppressor Specific subsonic 9mm ammo during the wait. Got some wire lubricant gel, too. Well....eh. It's pretty quiet with the gel, but after it runs out in about 10-15 rounds, it's kinda loud. Sounds like slapping my hands together really hard. Outdoors I could hear the subsonic rounds (no gel in can) echo.  kinda wishing I got the TiRant. Anybody else have this experience with the Osprey.
The host is a Glock 22 with a threaded conversion barrel. |
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Yeah, all the current pistol cans are so similar in overall noise that if you arent happy with one, you wont be happy with any other. There are some Kool Aid drinkers that might say the Octane or the Osprey or the TiRant is quieter, but they arent. Ospreys have some first round pop thats a little louder, but really the three big names are close enough that it doesnt matter. Sounds like your ammo sucks.
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| I've got an Osprey9 that I use on a g17, 26 and two 19s. With AE147, Fiocchi 147 and 158, and HST 147s I'm perfectly satisfied with its performance dry. As stated, if you're not happy with the Osprey you're not going to be happy with a Tirant or Octane. I have no experience with that gimmicky ammo. Are you sure you didn't have unrealistic expectations? |
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I've got an Osprey9 that I use on a g17, 26 and two 19s. With AE147, Fiocchi 147 and 158, and HST 147s I'm perfectly satisfied with its performance dry. As stated, if you're not happy with the Osprey you're not going to be happy with a Tirant or Octane. I have no experience with that gimmicky ammo. Are you sure you didn't have unrealistic expectations? X2. I use the same ammo listed above with the same hosts as well as a 34. Nothing wrong with my Osprey9 either. |
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You try one ammo and are unhappy? I am guessing its two things: 1. Garbage ammo. 2. Glocks are not great suppressor hosts to maximize "quietness". They still work, but other pistols work better. I hope you did not expect "Hollywood" quiet out of your pistol can. My 9Osprey works great, but my 300BO is much, much quieter with subs than my 9mm with subs. |
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You try one ammo and are unhappy? I am guessing its two things: 1. Garbage ammo. 2. Glocks are not great suppressor hosts to maximize "quietness". They still work, but other pistols work better. I hope you did not expect "Hollywood" quiet out of your pistol can. My 9Osprey works great, but my 300BO is much, much quieter with subs than my 9mm with subs. What pistols in your opinion are better suppressor host than Glocks? |
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What pistols in your opinion are better suppressor host than Glocks? The FN series and S&W M&P line both seem a bit better to me. I can't speak to any other brands personally. No idea why, other than a WAG. Others here might be able to offer better background on this. My G19 is the worst to silence I have noticed. For me, it feels/sounds like excessive port noise, but I am sure there is more to it. |
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You try one ammo and are unhappy? I am guessing its two things: 1. Garbage ammo. 2. Glocks are not great suppressor hosts to maximize "quietness". They still work, but other pistols work better. I hope you did not expect "Hollywood" quiet out of your pistol can. My 9Osprey works great, but my 300BO is much, much quieter with subs than my 9mm with subs. My 45 octane HD is pretty easy on the ears with subsonic 9mm out of a S&W M&P. Good to hear that the 300 BO is noticeable more quiet as I am in the process of SBRing one. |
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After a very long wait, I got my Osprey 9. I've been buying up the HPR Emcon Suppressor Specific subsonic 9mm ammo during the wait. Got some wire lubricant gel, too. Well....eh. It's pretty quiet with the gel, but after it runs out in about 10-15 rounds, it's kinda loud. Sounds like slapping my hands together really hard. Outdoors I could hear the subsonic rounds (no gel in can) echo. kinda wishing I got the TiRant. Anybody else have this experience with the Osprey.
The host is a Glock 22 with a threaded conversion barrel. It's a gun. Even with the can you're still talking about ~120 decibels. |
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It's a gun. Even with the can you're still talking about ~120 decibels. Quoted:
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After a very long wait, I got my Osprey 9. I've been buying up the HPR Emcon Suppressor Specific subsonic 9mm ammo during the wait. Got some wire lubricant gel, too. Well....eh. It's pretty quiet with the gel, but after it runs out in about 10-15 rounds, it's kinda loud. Sounds like slapping my hands together really hard. Outdoors I could hear the subsonic rounds (no gel in can) echo. kinda wishing I got the TiRant. Anybody else have this experience with the Osprey.
The host is a Glock 22 with a threaded conversion barrel. It's a gun. Even with the can you're still talking about ~120 decibels. I had some co-workers shoot off a 5.56 12" with a specwar can on it. The specwar is at the top of the heap for suppression of 5.56, I thought it was great. The were disappointed that it was still as loud as it was. I guess they were expecting more of the hollywood "PFFFFFT" |
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If you look at testing the USP is one of the worst hosts for port noise, at least for .45. My USP 45 with 45Osprey is noticeably louder than other hosts with the same can. My M&P9 through the 45Osprey is nice and quiet, but yeah it is still a gunshot (just a hearing safe one).
I'm trying to figure out how a gunshot sounding like hands clapping is not good enough? 
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Quoted: My G19 is the worst to silence I have noticed. For me, it feels/sounds like excessive port noise, but I am sure there is more to it.
Try using a heavier recoil spring. The first time I shot my Trident 9 on a Glock 17, I was getting a lot of port noise and a lot of gunk getting spit back in my face. I was also using a light target spring. When I switched to the factory spring, it kept the ejection port closed longer and made a dramatic difference. Going to an even heavier spring helped a little more. Ideally, you want the heaviest recoil spring that will still cycle with your gun/can/ammo combo. |
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Quoted: Try a different host. When I ran that exact setup on my Octane 9 it was very loud. For some reason the Glock 22 conversion was very loud. Sold the G22 and got a G17 and it's MUCH better. Is that a fair comparison though? Switching from a G22 (.40) to a G17 (9mm)??? I'm new to suppressors and even more new to suppressed pistols... |
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Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice.
...is a large factor, quality subsonics will give you better performance. I've got an Octane 9 HD 2 on a Glock 19, freakishly quiet with the right ammo, pretty loud with others. Fiocchi is great stuff. |
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Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. Ammo choice. ...is a large factor, quality subsonics will give you better performance. I've got an Octane 9 HD 2 on a Glock 19, freakishly quiet with the right ammo, pretty loud with others. Fiocchi is great stuff. Not always just ammo. My Osprey + Glock 19 + Fiocci is not impressive. I probably need a different recoil spring though. With the Glock 35 with 9mm conversion it is spooky quiet. |
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Is that a fair comparison though? Switching from a G22 (.40) to a G17 (9mm)??? I'm new to suppressors and even more new to suppressed pistols... Quoted:
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Try a different host. When I ran that exact setup on my Octane 9 it was very loud. For some reason the Glock 22 conversion was very loud. Sold the G22 and got a G17 and it's MUCH better. Is that a fair comparison though? Switching from a G22 (.40) to a G17 (9mm)??? I'm new to suppressors and even more new to suppressed pistols... G22 with 9mm barrel to G17 9mm. Unless SavageMOA is an unusually adventurous NFA owner; shooting .40 trough his 9mm can. |
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Quoted: G22 with 9mm barrel to G17 9mm. Unless SavageMOA is an unusually adventurous NFA owner; shooting .40 trough his 9mm can. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Try a different host. When I ran that exact setup on my Octane 9 it was very loud. For some reason the Glock 22 conversion was very loud. Sold the G22 and got a G17 and it's MUCH better. Is that a fair comparison though? Switching from a G22 (.40) to a G17 (9mm)??? I'm new to suppressors and even more new to suppressed pistols... G22 with 9mm barrel to G17 9mm. Unless SavageMOA is an unusually adventurous NFA owner; shooting .40 trough his 9mm can. I was reading up on the Octane 45 HD and for some reason, assumed he was talking about that... Readin skillz, I don't haz'em... |
| Some of the best cheap 9mm subsonic factory ammo I've found is the Speer Lawman 147gr TMJ. It's supposed to be the range load for departments carrying Gold Dots so they can practice for half the cost with the same POI/trajectory. I've been getting it for around $14/50 and it sounds great in all of my 9mm hosts....and that's with a .45 can. Try finding some of that as it sounds like your ammo is the problem. Most of my hosts are Glocks and they all sound just as good as my HK and FN IMHO.... |
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Turned the IRL on with my thumb.
Handloads. 
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| The host issue is most likely a spring timing issue. Unlocking earlier. Steel banging steel is never going to be super quiet. I've run my 45 can on sig, glock, hk, 1911s, fn and it sounds the same on them all. Boutique ammo doesn't always work the best in every can design. Try different coolant as well. I've used pulling gel, water soda, Gatorade. I stick to just water as they all sound the same to me. Don't get frustrated over the one load sounding crappie. |
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Have the HK usp tactical in 9 and 45 with ospreys in 9 and 45. They're pretty quiet to my ear, and don't ring or hurt. Also have some Sig 1911 tacticals, 226 elite and 229 elite along with a Steyr m9a1, glock 17 and 19. All have factory threaded barrels. Comparing the osprey to a gemtech multimount and swiss impuls IIa in 9 and 45 there isn't a lot of difference between hosts when it comes to uncomfortable to fire. I have found that with all 3 suppressor types the order of port noise to be:
Sig and glock are the quietest, don't notice a difference Steyr is a very close runner up, but slightly louder HK is slightly louder, though the difference is barely discernable. This is of course apples to apples (9 vs 9 and 45 vs 45) Be aware that non factory non fitted barrels can result in exaggerated or accelerated unlock timing. Playing with recoil springs can help as well for dwell time etc As others have stated ammo plays a role as well. I've found on colder days at higher altitudes some factory and reload 147s can go transonic or supersonic. Heck I've had transonic at around 3000 elevation in 50 degree weather. Hope this helps. |
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