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2/8/2013 9:51:39 AM EDT
Is the any suppressor that can be use with all the following calibers?

9 mm.    .223/5.56      7.62 X 39mm  and  .308 win
2/8/2013 9:59:22 AM EDT
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Is the any suppressor that can be use with all the following calibers?

9 mm.    .223/5.56      7.62 X 39mm  and  .308 win


A 30 cal can would do all but the 9mm.
2/8/2013 10:05:19 AM EDT
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i BELIEVE the Kestrel 762AK is able to do 9mm as the baffles are slightly larger to account for imperfect thread cuts on cheaper AK type rifles.

When I do a 9mm AR i would def look into that can more and get some facts. This would fulfill my 7.62 and 9mm area perfectly if so.
2/8/2013 10:09:20 AM EDT
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Do you think the Kestrel can handle an Uzi 9mm.?
2/8/2013 10:19:28 AM EDT
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I asked if there Kestrel 762(AK version) would suppress a 300blk and they replied yes but their Kestrel 9 would preform better. That will be out early spring I'm told. Their Kestrel 308 is shipping now, but it isnt on their site. I own the Kestrel 22 and Kestrel 556. Heres a video you might find interesting.

2/8/2013 10:49:18 AM EDT
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besides that PK sucking it was very cool to see that your tax stamp is safe, even AFTER "stupid" happens. ingenious design and a key reason why I bought my Kestrel 556.
2/9/2013 3:05:21 AM EDT
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Do you think the Kestrel can handle an Uzi 9mm.?


It is designed to handle 7.62x39, a rifle cartridge that generates about 50k psi of chamber pressure, full auto rated with no minimum barrel length restrictions.  I'm sure it could handle a 9mm pistol cartridge from an Uzi no problem
2/9/2013 5:12:46 AM EDT
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It is designed to handle 7.62x39, a rifle cartridge that generates about 50k psi of chamber pressure, full auto rated with no minimum barrel length restrictions.  I'm sure it could handle a 9mm pistol cartridge from an Uzi no problem


When considering a suppressor and a cartridge, the chamber pressure has little relationship to the suppressor strength and suitability assuming the aperture will pass the projectile. What is important to consider is the pressure in the bore at the instant of bullet uncorking, because the pressure in the entrance chamber is proportional to this uncorking pressure. In turn, this is proportional to the powder charge, burn rate, and (most important) barrel length.

If one looks at the lowly .22LR, the SAAMI chamber pressure is in the 22,000 psi range, but with a powder charge of under 1.5 grains, the bore pressure drops rapidly as the bullet goes along the barrel.

The drop in pressure as the bullet traverses the barrel is classic exponential decay.
2/9/2013 10:48:49 AM EDT
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It is designed to handle 7.62x39, a rifle cartridge that generates about 50k psi of chamber pressure, full auto rated with no minimum barrel length restrictions.  I'm sure it could handle a 9mm pistol cartridge from an Uzi no problem


When considering a suppressor and a cartridge, the chamber pressure has little relationship to the suppressor strength and suitability assuming the aperture will pass the projectile. What is important to consider is the pressure in the bore at the instant of bullet uncorking, because the pressure in the entrance chamber is proportional to this uncorking pressure. In turn, this is proportional to the powder charge, burn rate, and (most important) barrel length.

If one looks at the lowly .22LR, the SAAMI chamber pressure is in the 22,000 psi range, but with a powder charge of under 1.5 grains, the bore pressure drops rapidly as the bullet goes along the barrel.

The drop in pressure as the bullet traverses the barrel is classic exponential decay.



Tell me how a 9mm somehow wouldn't work in a can rated for an AK round, that DOES IN FACT have a bore of 9mm, as per Huntertown Arms. If a can will handle a rifle projectile AND has the suitable bore diameter as well, it will have no problem taking the much lesser powered pistol round, correct??

But either way, I know Huntertown says that can is GTG on a 9mm
2/9/2013 10:50:21 AM EDT
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It is designed to handle 7.62x39, a rifle cartridge that generates about 50k psi of chamber pressure, full auto rated with no minimum barrel length restrictions.  I'm sure it could handle a 9mm pistol cartridge from an Uzi no problem


When considering a suppressor and a cartridge, the chamber pressure has little relationship to the suppressor strength and suitability assuming the aperture will pass the projectile. What is important to consider is the pressure in the bore at the instant of bullet uncorking, because the pressure in the entrance chamber is proportional to this uncorking pressure. In turn, this is proportional to the powder charge, burn rate, and (most important) barrel length.

If one looks at the lowly .22LR, the SAAMI chamber pressure is in the 22,000 psi range, but with a powder charge of under 1.5 grains, the bore pressure drops rapidly as the bullet goes along the barrel.

The drop in pressure as the bullet traverses the barrel is classic exponential decay.



Ok, thanks Mr. Science

Now instead of trying to confuse everyone with science, tell me how a 9mm somehow wouldn't work in a can rated for an AK round, that DOES IN FACT have a bore of 9mm, as per Huntertown Arms. If a can will handle a rifle projectile AND has the suitable bore diameter as well, it will have no problem taking the much lesser powered pistol round.

But thanks, your attempt to sound intellectually superior has probably done little more than confuse the utter shit out of the guy who was looking for a legit answer.


He does R&D for Gemtech. He probably knows what he's talking about. Just saying. I don't think he was arguing as much as expanding on what you were talking about.
2/9/2013 10:52:54 AM EDT
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It is designed to handle 7.62x39, a rifle cartridge that generates about 50k psi of chamber pressure, full auto rated with no minimum barrel length restrictions.  I'm sure it could handle a 9mm pistol cartridge from an Uzi no problem


When considering a suppressor and a cartridge, the chamber pressure has little relationship to the suppressor strength and suitability assuming the aperture will pass the projectile. What is important to consider is the pressure in the bore at the instant of bullet uncorking, because the pressure in the entrance chamber is proportional to this uncorking pressure. In turn, this is proportional to the powder charge, burn rate, and (most important) barrel length.

If one looks at the lowly .22LR, the SAAMI chamber pressure is in the 22,000 psi range, but with a powder charge of under 1.5 grains, the bore pressure drops rapidly as the bullet goes along the barrel.

The drop in pressure as the bullet traverses the barrel is classic exponential decay.



Ok, thanks Mr. Science

Now instead of trying to confuse everyone with science, tell me how a 9mm somehow wouldn't work in a can rated for an AK round, that DOES IN FACT have a bore of 9mm, as per Huntertown Arms. If a can will handle a rifle projectile AND has the suitable bore diameter as well, it will have no problem taking the much lesser powered pistol round.

But thanks, your attempt to sound intellectually superior has probably done little more than confuse the utter shit out of the guy who was looking for a legit answer.


He does R&D for Gemtech. He probably knows what he's talking about. Just saying. I don't think he was arguing as much as expanding on what you were talking about.


Yeah I realized that after I posted, and attempted to edit it before I just shoved my foot in my mouth
2/10/2013 7:35:27 AM EDT
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He does R&D for Gemtech. He probably knows what he's talking about. Just saying. I don't think he was arguing as much as expanding on what you were talking about.


I was expanding on the comment about the SAAMI chamber pressures, not specifically answering a question. Because of my employer, I do not chime in on suitability of specific suppressors for specific calibers/weapons, although I do have personal opinions.

I was also sharing some data that we have measured as a point of interest, not putting anyone down.
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