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11/19/2012 9:23:24 AM EDT
Finally got my Tax stamp back on my Surefire Mini Suppressor.  Submitted May 22nd, Pending June 20th, Approved Nov 09th, and Received Nov 17th. This is my first suppressor and I'm anxious to get out and test fire it.  First impressions...this thing is light and doesn't add much front weight.  The fast attachment takes maybe 3 seconds and is stupid easy. For being a "Mini" you can tell this thing is built like a tank, solid, and baffles on the inside look thick and you can see they are internally welded. I will leave feedback letting you guys know how 'hearing safe' it is on my 11.5'' BCM.

BCM 11.5 DD RIS II
Spikes Fall Zero M16 bolt NiB coated
Geiselle SSA-E trigger
Magpul furniture
Aimpoint H-1

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y509/Jared_VandeRyt/Rifle%20Suppressed/IMAG0076.jpg

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y509/Jared_VandeRyt/Rifle%20Suppressed/IMAG0078.jpg

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y509/Jared_VandeRyt/IMAG0077.jpg
11/19/2012 9:59:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Nice build! Let us know how it sounds.
11/19/2012 12:03:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Looks freaking great... Need an AAR from you after you shoot it.  My forms were delivered on May 21st for my SF mini 762 so now you have me really anxious to go home and check the mailbox!
11/19/2012 4:30:50 PM EDT
[#3]
I am also interested in how it sounds.  I really like the sound of the 512.  Wonder how the tone compares.
11/19/2012 5:01:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Awesome. Looking forward to the range report.
11/19/2012 5:21:45 PM EDT
[#5]
We should get our stamp back for our 5.56 Mini any day now.  I think we're coming up on the 6 month mark.  

One of the guns it'll go on is a 11" barrel.  Not a chance in hell it'll be hearing safe.

But it'll be more pleasant to shoot, and in the unlikely event it ever gets fired indoors without hearing protection, hopefully it'll just be painfully loud instead of causing instant permanent hearing damage.

Really looking forward to picking it up.  
11/19/2012 5:30:20 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
We should get our stamp back for our 5.56 Mini any day now.  I think we're coming up on the 6 month mark.  

One of the guns it'll go on is a 11" barrel.  Not a chance in hell it'll be hearing safe.

But it'll be more pleasant to shoot, and in the unlikely event it ever gets fired indoors without hearing protection, hopefully it'll just be painfully loud instead of causing instant permanent hearing damage.

Really looking forward to picking it up.  


it took 8 months for my first suppressor
i want to do an SBR but i dont think i want to wait another 8 months
and by the way that mini looks bad ass on that 11.5 upper  
11/19/2012 6:46:05 PM EDT
[#7]
Tag for RR
 
11/20/2012 7:19:24 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Tag for RR  


hopefully a vid too

OP would you mind getting some closeups of the mount you used?
11/20/2012 8:02:43 AM EDT
[#9]
I plan on shooting a video to try and capture the sound from different angles and distances running suppressed vs suppressed.  I figure one from shooters perspective, from behind close and far, in front close and far, and to the side close and far.  I'm also trying to get a hold of a decibel reader from work to also measure the sound levels.  We had one at one point but no one seems to be able to find it.

I used a MB556k  muzzle brake mount.  Surefire, over the phone, strongly recommended this mount on SBR's to reduce wear to their suppressors.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y509/Jared_VandeRyt/Rifle%20Suppressed/IMAG0080.jpg
11/20/2012 10:41:30 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
I plan on shooting a video to try and capture the sound from different angles and distances running suppressed vs suppressed.  I figure one from shooters perspective, from behind close and far, in front close and far, and to the side close and far.  I'm also trying to get a hold of a decibel reader from work to also measure the sound levels.  We had one at one point but no one seems to be able to find it.

I used a MB556k  muzzle brake mount.  Surefire, over the phone, strongly recommended this mount on SBR's to reduce wear to their suppressors.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y509/Jared_VandeRyt/Rifle%20Suppressed/IMAG0080.jpg


That's what I have too.  Now show us it after you shoot it's a nice contrast of 'before' and 'after'!  SBRs really beat the hell out of the mount, but better that than the can.
11/20/2012 6:14:32 PM EDT
[#11]
I really like my SureFire Mini.


Too bad it's still in can jail.  I did get to put about a hundred or hundred and fifty rounds through it already though.
11/21/2012 5:52:16 AM EDT
[#12]
As someone said earlier... Not a chance in hell that will be hearing safe.
11/21/2012 6:45:20 AM EDT
[#13]
I'm anxious to find out.  Where I shoot is surrounded by 12 foot high berms to the left, right and backstop.  So I'm hoping that helps absorb the echo and sound. At the very least it should make it extremely comfortable to shoot with ear pro. If anyone has sound equipment or other suppressors, I plan on shooting this next Friday in Batavia Ohio at my private range.
11/21/2012 8:06:01 AM EDT
[#14]
This. Fullsize cans on ARs are not hearing safe AT THE EAR. The action and ejection port are very loud to the shooter's ear.

Now, I'd prefer a can over no can indoors in a HD situation any day, and even for general shooting except for the dirty aspect I still prefer suppressed. But anyone that claims the bullet crack, action, and ejection on a suppressed supersonic AR is hearing safe - already has permanent hearing damage and is to be ignored on the topic of noise and safety.
11/21/2012 8:07:14 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I'm anxious to find out.  Where I shoot is surrounded by 12 foot high berms to the left, right and backstop.  So I'm hoping that helps absorb the echo and sound. At the very least it should make it extremely comfortable to shoot with ear pro. If anyone has sound equipment or other suppressors, I plan on shooting this next Friday in Batavia Ohio at my private range.


See my above post. It's not refelected sound that is the issue (maybe with the crack it might be) but the action and ejection port are going to be loud at your ear. You are going to need to shoot with plugs for any sort of planned shooting. The suppressor will be invaluable for not-planned shooting.
11/21/2012 2:56:12 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I'm anxious to find out.  Where I shoot is surrounded by 12 foot high berms to the left, right and backstop.  So I'm hoping that helps absorb the echo and sound. At the very least it should make it extremely comfortable to shoot with ear pro. If anyone has sound equipment or other suppressors, I plan on shooting this next Friday in Batavia Ohio at my private range.


Ah wish I was closer. We'll be out with ARs and my 556-212 this weekend in Delaware OH
11/21/2012 3:06:38 PM EDT
[#17]
Shot one this weekend on a 16" gun. Sounded side by side about like our 10.5" with a YHM SS threadon phantom. Maybe slightly louder but not noticeably so. was pretty quiet considering it was half  the size of the YHm can.
11/30/2012 10:44:38 AM EDT
[#18]
Well I finally got out and test fired this bad boy.  We put about 400 rounds through it, using a standard carbine buffer.  No problems at all and it ran perfectly. This was also using M855 ammo.   I'll be completely honest, it was just barely too loud for no ear protection.  I did shoot one mag without and it didn't bother me but I'd rather be safe and not go deaf at 27yrs old.   Keep in mind it is running at an 11.5 inch BCM.  For my buddy who was about  20 feet away, it was fine without protection.   Recoil was very slightly increased but not noticeable unless pointed out.  Gas blow back was none, even for my buddy who shoots lefty.   Dirt...well it was a filthy mess lol. The bolt carrier group was black after 3 or 4 mags.  Point of impact shift was zero.  All together it rocked, it eliminated the blast and concussion.  If you want no ears, maybe full can is better, like I said its very very close.
12/4/2012 3:47:02 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
As someone said earlier... Not a chance in hell that will be hearing safe.


I've heard that exact can on a 5.56 SBR. Not remotely hearing safe, but was a welcome respite from the concussion of that muzzle brake rattling my fillings. FWIW, I was also only 4 feet away.

Nice suppressor - thanks for the report & hope you enjoy it.

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12/4/2012 7:33:31 AM EDT
[#20]
I am curious as to what a full size Surefire can sounds like on a 10.3'' barrel. I'm thinking about doing a Daniel Defense mk18 upper with a Surefire Socom. Any o e have this set up in Ohio? If so let's go shooting.
12/4/2012 10:07:53 AM EDT
[#21]
Just shot my SF 762 mini on my 16" 5.56 gun this weekend and it was pleasant to shoot without ear pro.  Gotta love the SF quick detach too... Best in the biz
12/4/2012 11:35:03 AM EDT
[#22]
hey cincy i have a 10.5 if you really want to hear what it sounds like
anyway where in ohio are you sounds like a nice range. i still waiting for my dealer to dealer transfer i just ordered the 556 (norm size) can. the brake is the way to go also it will save the can and without the can i enjoy the brake
12/4/2012 6:14:34 PM EDT
[#23]
I live in Cincinnati but I have a private range in the Mount Orab area. It's nothing special but its on private property so you can act a fool...
12/4/2012 8:34:43 PM EDT
[#24]
It's always nice to shoot with out rules. I used to live in centerville just south of Dayton but moved backed up towards Cleveland
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