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Posted: 7/27/2011 8:13:55 AM EDT
| Can you have a non-FFL 07 or 10 machine shop build the baffles for a Form 1 if you complete the job by either you or someone else constructing the tube and end caps. I ask as some of these baffle designs above would have to be made with a water jet or EDM and all of the suppressor manufacturers around these parts only have a lathe and mill type setup. As in no one ever has all the pieces expect you? If this doesn't work, is there a legal way for a FFL 07 or 10 to have a component done elsewhere and they finish it? |
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ATF says you must be their and take all parts when you go... Unless you have a trust and name them in the trust while work is being done Once suppressor is done you could remove them from your trust YOU ORE YOUR TRUST MUST BE IN CONTROLL OF YOUR ITEMS AT ALL TIMES Edited...VA-gunnut |
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Quoted: ATF says you must be their and take all parts when you go... Unless you have a trust and name them in the trust while work is being done Once suppressor is done you could remove them from your trust YOU ORE YOUR TRUST MUST BE IN CONTROLL OF YOUR ITEMS AT ALL TIMES Edited...VA-gunnut +1 to the bold black advice Edited...VA-gunnut |
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What's wrong with ONLY having them make the baffles for you then on a different day while you're there have them cut, thread, and engrave the tube? The baffles alone are nothing more than a piece of odd looking metal, no?
I've thought about this too and would love to make my own suppressor one day but know I'd have to have most of the work subcontracted. |
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What's wrong with ONLY having them make the baffles for you then on a different day while you're there have them cut, thread, and engrave the tube? The baffles alone are nothing more than a piece of odd looking metal, no? I've thought about this too and would love to make my own suppressor one day but know I'd have to have most of the work subcontracted. The ATF considers silencer parts i.e. baffles, to be silencers. This is why you don't see bafflesfor sale in "kits" to make form 1 cans. |
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What's wrong with ONLY having them make the baffles for you then on a different day while you're there have them cut, thread, and engrave the tube? The baffles alone are nothing more than a piece of odd looking metal, no? I've thought about this too and would love to make my own suppressor one day but know I'd have to have most of the work subcontracted. The funny part of all of this is I have seen some pneumatic control manifolds at work that with a hole drilled all the way thru them you would be looking at a mini suppressor just not a very good one. though......... |
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What's wrong with ONLY having them make the baffles for you then on a different day while you're there have them cut, thread, and engrave the tube? The baffles alone are nothing more than a piece of odd looking metal, no? I've thought about this too and would love to make my own suppressor one day but know I'd have to have most of the work subcontracted. The ATF considers silencer parts i.e. baffles, to be silencers. This is why you don't see bafflesfor sale in "kits" to make form 1 cans. I kind of thought as much, for the same reason, no kits out there. Thanks. Quoted:
The funny part of all of this is I have seen some pneumatic control manifolds at work that with a hole drilled all the way thru them you would be looking at a mini suppressor just not a very good one. though......... This is what I was thinking. There are plenty of parts out there unrelated to firearms that with little to no modification could be baffles. So how can the ATF say that your pieces of metal are baffles if you have no tube, threads/mount, or end caps to construct the can. I guess it comes down to intent. Oh well. |
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What's wrong with ONLY having them make the baffles for you then on a different day while you're there have them cut, thread, and engrave the tube? The baffles alone are nothing more than a piece of odd looking metal, no? I've thought about this too and would love to make my own suppressor one day but know I'd have to have most of the work subcontracted. The ATF considers silencer parts i.e. baffles, to be silencers. This is why you don't see bafflesfor sale in "kits" to make form 1 cans. I kind of thought as much, for the same reason, no kits out there. Thanks. Quoted:
The funny part of all of this is I have seen some pneumatic control manifolds at work that with a hole drilled all the way thru them you would be looking at a mini suppressor just not a very good one. though......... This is what I was thinking. There are plenty of parts out there unrelated to firearms that with little to no modification could be baffles. So how can the ATF say that your pieces of metal are baffles if you have no tube, threads/mount, or end caps to construct the can. I guess it comes down to intent. Oh well. no it just comes down to what the ATF sees fit to regulate. |
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