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Posted: 5/21/2010 3:49:22 PM EDT
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Hey all,
I'm looking to buy my first can and have a few different types of weapons that I'd like to put it on. Namely a number of 9mm and 5.56 rifles, carbines, sbrs and pistols. Does this exist by any chance? Thanks |
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You are going to have to buy multiple cans. You can buy one can that can cover your rifles that are .30 caliber and smaller (except rimfire rounds). But there is no suppressor that I know of that can be reasonably used on all rifles, pistols, etc. that is effective.
For the 30 caliber and smaller I like the 762SD from AAC. They offer quick detach mounts in many common thread pitches on rifles. I will be using it on my AR's my remington 700 LTR, M1a, and HK 91. You will also need a 22 can that can be disassembled for cleaning. There are a ton of good reasonably priced cans out there. I went with the silencerco sparrow. People love the SWR spectre, the AAC Element, the AAC prodigy, among others. |
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You are going to have to buy multiple cans. You can buy one can that can cover your rifles that are .30 caliber and smaller (except rimfire rounds). But there is no suppressor that I know of that can be reasonably used on all rifles, pistols, etc. that is effective. For the 30 caliber and smaller I like the 762SD from AAC. They offer quick detach mounts in many common thread pitches on rifles. I will be using it on my AR's my remington 700 LTR, M1a, and HK 91. You will also need a 22 can that can be disassembled for cleaning. There are a ton of good reasonably priced cans out there. I went with the silencerco sparrow. People love the SWR spectre, the AAC Element, the AAC prodigy, among others. I have one on order (paid for) but didnt know that AAC makes FH that fit the M1A and HK91. |
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They make them... sometimes.
AAC muzzle devices in any sort of uncommon thread pitch are produced in batches which are often spaced fairly far apart. Right now, as they are moving facilities, I wouldn't expect any of them to be on hand, but they can probably help you track one down. |
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If you are OK with listing the firearms you plan to use the silencer on, that would help us give you some suggestions.
I agree with m1garand that if you're going to shoot .22LR, you'll need a take-apart can, because the lubricated unjacketed lead bullets will deposit crud on the insides which will gradually fill up the can and reduce its effectiveness. Most likely, this is the caliber which you will shoot most often, both because of the relatively low ammo cost and as it's the closest you'll get to "Hollywood quiet" (especially bolt-action, lever-action, or single-shot rifles with subsonic ammo.) As for using the same silencer for 9x19mm and 5.56x45mm, the problems here are: 1) 5.56mm rounds will pass through a 9mm silencer, but the pressure of the standard 5.56 rifle round will cause the 9mm can (which are built for the lower-pressure pistol round) to fail, usually fairly quickly (one shot?) and dramatically. If you lack excitement in your life, this would be one way of spicing it up 
2) 9mm rounds will not pass through a 5.56mm suppressor 
As mentioned above, you will need at least two silencers for these calibers: 1) A 9mm can with various attachment options for 9mm pistols and pistol-caliber carbines/SMGs. Many pistols which use the Browning short-recoil system (1911s, Hi-Powers, Glocks, etc) need a Nielsen device (aka LID, LCD or booster) attached to the can in order to cycle properly. Fixed-barrel pistols and pistol-caliber carbines/SMGs use threads or 3-lug attachment points. 2) Either a 5.56 rifle can or .30 caliber (7.62mm) rifle can for 5.56mm firearms. The advantage of the 7.62 can would be the ability to use it on .30 caliber firearms as well, but at the cost of added length and weight. Hope this helps. [ETA] About the sound suppressing abilities of silencers: As I mentioned earlier, .22LR is the closest you'll get to the movie depictions of silenced firearms, especially with subsonic ammo - with .22 pistols, a barrel length of around 4 to 4.5 inches or less will keep most "regular" (non-hypervelocity) ammunition subsonic. 9mm is pretty decent with subsonic ammo, and the newer .45 ACP cans such as the Osprey and TiRant appear to be pretty good even when dry (I understand that earlier .45 ACP cans had to be fired "wet" for best results.) The centerfire rifle cans definitely reduce the sound signature, but it's still pretty loud, and often not "hearing safe". In addition, the ballistic crack of the supersonic ammo is another factor, unless you use specially-loaded subsonic rounds (but with reduced velocity and range.) You're not going to get the mouse-fart thwip so beloved of movie directors, so don't get your hopes up (see "Hollywood Silencer" - TVTropes.org). If you want to show off your silencers to friends, stick with .22LR and 9mm. |
Austin,,,, opinions are like butt holes everybody has one.. I have a .22 can that I use on 2-22lr pistols,22mog rifle ,22lr rifle and 17Hmr rifle to do pest control in a few local nurseryman and they quite it down so if you are not listening for gunfire you would never notice.. the 22mag and 17hmr have a pretty good sonic crack but almost no fire siganture. I have a good friend with a 30 cal can we shoot .300 win,,308 win and 223 through , he has a 308 subsonic load thats hollywood quite, I think what I'm trying to say is go ahead and get what you want and have fun. just be safe and use cans that can handle the cartridge pressure you subject them to.
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Thread with YHM .30 Cal Phantom pr0n
The YHM .30 Cal Phantom will handle up to a .300 Win Mag; I run mine on a WASR-10 7.62x39mm, 20" A2 5.56mm, and 10.5" 5.56mm SBR. I love it; muzzle blast is about that of a high velocity .22LR. You'll need another can for pistol calibers, and that even varies if you want to run it on a SMG-style host or a pistol host with (possible) booster. I highly recommend a .22LR can; with subsonic ammo, it's about as loud as a staple gun 
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I second Cosmos' opining above. I have a YHM 762 and YHM 556. I love both. I used the 762 on my 300 winnie before I sold it off. Now the 308 can gets used mostly on my Savage 10fcp .308. Mostly I shoot subs through it and yes, they are definitely Hollywood quiet. The loudest part of shooting subs through a can with a bolt action is the sound of the bullet impact. I also think the .308 can suppresses subsonic .223 better than the 556 can; perhaps due to the increased internal volume. I am still undecided as to which one suppresses full power 556 better, although that's kind of a mute point cause they're so close.
With full-power 300 win mag, it was still hearing safe. I didn't put my decibel meter out, but to my ear it was a little less than an unsuppressed supersonic .22lr. If you want the bare minimum, get this: –– .308 QD can –– the YHM QD system lets you mount adaptors on just about every rifle you could own. (I know other companies do also, but my opinion is that YHM is the better value in the end.) –– .45 Osprey with additional pistons for all your .45's, .40's, and 9mm's –– .22 –– Checkmate from Griffin Armament –– take-apart, mag-rated, 17hmr-rated That would get just about everything you might own suppressed. cheers, Benji |
Late...uber late response to the posts. Thanks btw for replying everybody! Work has had me all over the country and I don't like using my work computer when getting on the forum. 
I have a 5.56, .308, 22lr, and a 9mm. All are rifles, but the comments about the Nielson device are welcomed as I might get a 9mm pistol. My first suppressor will be for the 9mm if I'll be getting different suppressors. Do any manufacturers make them with a QD mount that's a flash suppressor or compensator? I don't shoot lead .22lr no matter how cheap and seductive it is....it's like turning down that wasted sorority chick that you know every fraternity has enjoyed.... Regardless, .22lr is still dirty. So thanks for the breakdown suppressor suggestion.
I'm new to the manufactured suppressor world so I don't know what's out there and the possibilities. |
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