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Posted: 6/3/2007 3:41:05 PM EDT
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First off I am new to suppressors and I have searched the supppressor forum page and need some additional information. 1. Where is the best place to buy a tactical innovations 65 suppressor? I have looked at some sites but being new to suppressors I do not know what the going rate is for one. Nor do I know what a deal on one is running. 2. End cap removal tool, should I buy two to clean the suppressor or are they a waste of money? 3. How do I clean the suppressor? Does it need to be cleaned often? Do I need to lube the interior parts with CLP? 4. Also is the Tactical Innovations any good? I know they are cheap but I am a college student tryingi to get his first suppressor. Thanks for the help guys. |
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I have the P22 and TAC-65 and I love them. I do suggest that you buy the disassembly tools as they make it a whole lot easier to disassemble the supressor. As for cleaning, I pretty much follow the directions from the manual: www.tacticalinc.com/tac65-cleaning-c-294_297.html 1. Soak in WD40 overnight 2. Diassemble using the tools 3. Remove Baffles 4. Scrub with a stiff toothbrush 5. Clean the inside of the tube w/ toothbrush 6. Reassemble (I use High-Temp Antiseize from automotive supply) As for where to buy, I bought mine used but I have seen the TAC-65 advertised for under $200 new on the web. Of course, then you need to take care of transfers and taxes. I have recently moved my TAC-65 to a Ruger 10/22 to address a rodent problem and I really like having thesupressor on the 10/22. It is a versitile can and I am very happy that I have it! Good Luck! |
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The most expensive silencer you buy will be the one that you have to replace or pay to have upgraded because you are not happy with it. Between a cheap silencer and a top notch one you are only talking about $100 difference. If I were buying TI products I would go with the stainless Quest. |
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ONLY SPEAKING TO SOUND LEVEL... To my ear on a P22, the Tac65 was louder than the Gemtech Outback II and the AAC Pilot. That being said, you can tack the Tac65 apart and it is about $100 cheaper. Personally, I bought a more expensive one that was a hair quieter. That was my choice. What's your final goal? You really should hear them to figure out if price vs. sound reduction/take apart ability is worth it to you. If there is ANY way you can find some folks that will let you listen to theirs, you really need to. |
| I bought a TAC-65 last summer for my P22 and 10/22. I've been very happy with it. I don't here anything but the action cycling. I think I paid about $200 for it. My dealer was willing to order me anything I wanted but recommended the TAC. Said I wouldn't see much difference between it and the most expensive one. |
Yep, the Tac is a great can. You can take it apart and clean it and it is $100 cheaper than any of the others (except some cans made by a few SOT's). However, you really should hear it side by side the Outback and Pilot. I would also bet you would want to hear it by the SWR .22 can, I just haven't heard that one (although I do own a Trident). |
hearing is a relative thing. like a car making a squeak. or was it a grinding sound ? my tac-65 when shot SxS and on the same pistol was noticably quieter then the gem-tec. but again everybody has different levels of hearing. i suggest IF you decide on the TI product, get the disassembly tool. it makes it so much easier to service your suppressor with it. and don't forget the thread adapter too ! |
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It does not matter what I like, I have different requirements than you do. My point was make sure what you decide upon that you will be happy with. What are your requirements Ultra light? Most compact, Sound Reduction at any size, resistant to corrosive cleaners, ability to handle full auto in the future once you graduate or win the lottery, Perhaps weight and size do not matter to you but getting the most for your $200 tax is what you need, going with a .223 silencer will give you a silencer than can handle .22lr, .22mag, 17hmr, .223 to 22-250 with only one tax. Once you pick the features that are important to you, then that limits the field, $400 being your only limits includes a lot of units. Do you have any reason to believe the Chief of Police or County Sheriff will even approve the form for you to buy said item, if they won't play then you have to put effort into other legal options. |
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Dave I might get into full auto once I pass the bar exam but not just this minute. Also I think your right on the .223, so you can shoot .22 out of a .223 can for my AR. I have been reading that it is too ditry to shoot 22s out of a.223 can. I live in Tarrant county and have heard that the sheriff here will allow almost anything. Weight and size don't really matter to me that much. So for around 400 what would you recommend now. I think price is only the real limiting factor to what I want. I know the 400-500 range is not a huge budget. |
So go with a trust or LLC. I chose LLC for personal reasons (I can use my LLC for other reasons as well). The Trust route is easier and cheaper. Yes, you can shoot .22 through a .223 can but it is bigger and heavier (made of steel instead of aluminum). If you can possbily afford it, get a .22 can first and get a .223 can later. If not, get the .223 can and don't look back. If money is not as much of an issue, you will definately want a dedicated .22 can eventually and you will shoot it more than you will the .223 can. .22 is the only suppressor that you can shoot in your backyard without upsetting the neighbhors. .223 is still somewhat loud. You can shoot .223 without hearing protection but it's still pretty loud (in relation to what someone that hasn't heard a silencer would think). That being said, You could also get a 9mm can and shoot .22 through it. It just depends on what your needs are. I'm always amazed at the pissing match that comes along with suppressors. |
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