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Posted: 11/5/2006 4:27:30 PM EDT
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I've recently come into about $700 of extra cash, and my first thought was to get a .223 suppressor to compliment the 10.5" AR I'm waiting to build (sent the form 1 off a couple weeks ago). After the $200 tax, that leaves $500 for the can. I have one other AR which has a 14.5" barrel w/ permenantly attached phantom FS. Also, my fiance has a 16" super light that will share the same home when get married next summer. Since the 14.5"er has a permenantly attached FS, I've kinda given up on being able to use a suppressor with it. The future wife's gun is a KISS, A2 model that I don't shoot (it's HERS), so I would hardly ever mount the suppressor on it either. This makes me think that a cheaper, standard thread model suppressor like the Gemtech M4-02 would work well for my purpose. Although, I am building the 10.5" AR to have something shorter, so I don't think I'd want to use the can all the time. BTW, I'm looking at the Gemtech instead of the YHM model because there's a Gemtech dealer in my state. Here's my biggest question: Is the suppressor effective enough on a 10.5" AR to warrant the cost and paperwork, or should I look at something else instead (like maybe a .22 suppressor for my 22/45 and 10/22). I would appreciate to hear anyone's experiences on the issue. |
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I would get a good 22lr suppressor for your first one. It will be much closer what I think you expect a suppressor should do. Brands to look at: AAC, Gemtech, SRT, SWR all make good 22lr cans. Tactical Inovations makes one that comes apart for cleaning and is inexpensive. If you have not heard a 5.56 suppressor you should do so. I personally find them loud and I would still wear hearing protection for extended shooting. |
I mostly agree with mpallett. You should probably get a .22lr can first. You won't regret it. I love my AAC pilot. It will definately be more what you expect from a silencer just as mpallett said. If you use subsonic .22's it's awsome on a pistol or a rifle. My 10/22 sounds like a quiet bb gun with aguilla or remington subsonics. I have a YHM .223 can and I love it. However, you should hear one first. THe only part of what mpallett said I don't agree with is the hearing protection. I have shot hundreds of rounds in a few hours and everything is fine (damn, why do I keep having to turn up the tv volume...). However, a .223 can is not "silent". Mine sounds like a pretty loud .22. Maybe between a .22lr and a .22mag. OH, plus, a .22 can will run you $400 if you get a REALLY good one so after the tax stamp, you will have a little left over for ammo. Don't know where you are but you mentioned you have a gemtech dealer in your state. I'm assuming you meant your immediate area. There are dealers of all brands all over the state. If you need one, I can hook you up with mine in Longview. He is great! |
Thanks for the info. I heard a Gemtech M4-02 on a 10.5" AR this weekend, but it was in a small shooting bay to a lot of the sound was being reflected back at us. It was hard to tell the effectiveness, but I was able to listen w/o hearing protection. firebugfab, I was referring to Talon Arms stocking the Gemtechs, so I wouldn't need to pay a Class III dealer for the transfer. If I get a .22 suppressor, I'd probably get it from NFA Investments, since he has some great deals and I'd have to get my .22 barrels threaded also. |
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I went with SWR WArlock for my .22 can. I'll likely comtinue with them after seeing and reading so many EXCELLENT customer service threads about stuff like" i blew up a can or this went wrong with my SWR can.......................They fixed it for FREE". Hard to beat. 
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Since you are dealing with Talon Arms, you should consider the Gemtech Outback II suppressor if you are going to buy a sealed up 22 can. |
+100 I have a 5.56 suppressor, and a .22 suppressor. The .22 is what most people think of a suppressor. The 5.56 is quieter, but not what you see on tv. The .22 is definitly a good starting place. And one other suggestion, get quality the first time. |
Before I purchased my pilot, my class III ([email protected]) let me demo an outback, tac65 and my pilot. There was VERY LITTLE difference in the outback and the pilot. They have slightly different tones, but as far as decibels (sp?) they are about the same. Either would be a great choice! The tac65 was a little louder. smallchange has a .22 can he purchased from a guy in Spring (or Cypress, somewhere around Houston) that the guy built. He paid around $100 for it, it can be dissasembled and it is not bad at all. It is comparable to the tac65. For $100 it is a great can! |
That would be NFA Investments (he is a member here under that name). If I got a .22 suppressor, it would be one of his. I'm just not sure about the .22 suppressor though; I'd have to thread the barrels on my 22/45 and 10/22, and I don't really shoot them very much. I shoot my ARs a lot. |
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I'm just not sure about the .22 suppressor though; I'd have to thread the barrels on my 22/45 and 10/22, and I don't really shoot them very much. I shoot my ARs a lot. I was in the same boat. I have a ton of .22's from when I first got into shooting. I much prefer shooting my AR's and precision bolt guns. I was going to get a suppressor for my AR first, but thought long and hard about how I'd actually use the suppressor. Although 22 cans are not glamorous or tactical, they represent the best value in suppressors. I figured I would thread the good old 10/22 barrel, Ruger MK II, and Glock/Advantage arms .22 conversion first. This way I could shoot in the backyard and maybe even the basement when the wife's not around. My range is 45 minutes away and sometimes I don't feel like driving all the way over there just to get yelled out by the range Nazi. That being said, my next suppressor will most likely be a 556 can. Although they aren't that quiet, the cool factor is way up there and I can shoot some places where I couldn't shoot unsuppressed. |
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Bah. I went in a different directio nwhen Iwas in your shoes. My first can was a 9mm Warrior. I never regretted the purchase. I used it on damn near every gun I owned. from 22Lr to .308 to FA 9mm. Buying a 22LR can is probably the 'one can' that will be used simply for plinking, but... your eyes will wander to the guy shooting suppressed 5.56, 9mm, .308, .22-250, etc. Get a can that can do more calibers, and then find the guns that you want to shoot in those calibers. Varying barrel lengths give you better sound reduction on overbored cans. Work with that one can and enjoy the experience. Once you get more funds, branch out, but more cans for specific calibers. TRG |
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