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Posted: 2/7/2002 5:59:21 AM EDT
I am looking for a good semi auto 308.I need something that is reliable and good accuracy max 2MOA for say 800 or less.I am looking for rifle mfg and mod.#.What are your sugestions

Thanks 1hole
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 6:57:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:07:32 AM EDT
DnPRK,
He said $800 or less, not $1500 or more!!!

You should look into the FAL/STG type rifles. Do a search on them to find out more. They are great rifles.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:09:11 AM EDT
How much do you want to spend?
Armalite AR 10-T, AR 10A4, AR 10A2
Knights Mfg SR 25
H&K PSG 1
Springfield Inc M1A SuperMatch, M21, M25
H&K SL7
H&K SR9
H&K 91
FMP G3S
FAL---Custom built by a FAL smith who knows what he's doing...
FAL---DSA
FAL---Springfield Inc SAR 48, SAR 4800
M1 Garand built with 7.62 bbl
These should give you a starting point...
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:12:12 AM EDT
"I need something that is reliable and good accuracy max 2MOA for say 800 or less."
DOH...!

Does this mean $800 or use to 800 meters?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:15:49 AM EDT
$800.00
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:16:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/7/2002 7:19:33 AM EDT by Noname]
If $800 is your budget...
Ditto what Red Dragon said.
FAL clones
H&K clones
used M1A (rack grade)
CETME clones
M1 Garand in 7.62
smith built FAL
Springfield SAR 4800
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:23:25 AM EDT
Are these Cetme rifles fair quality?I have been looking at them fairly hard.Is there one kind of receiver that is beter than the rest?Should i buy a kit or a complete rifle or does it matter?
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:26:55 AM EDT
You might also save a bit more. Wholesale on a Eagle Arms AR 10A4 is $875.00

You can still find deals on M1A's. I just did a transfer on a preban (1983)M1A Standard grade in 90% cond for $750 to a bud of mine...
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:28:21 AM EDT
Browning BAR.
It is available in wood or synthetic.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:30:26 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:33:07 AM EDT
Any of the CAI or "other" built clones are a crap shoot. Take 10 rifles...
3 or 4 will be "TITS"
3 or 4 will be "OK, it's not that bad"
The rest will be "problem child POS"...
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:44:36 AM EDT
The only correct answer here is FAL. Look around and you can probably find a good shooter in that price range. I would be inclined to go with a Garand in .308, but I don't think you'll find one that cheap.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:16:25 AM EDT
Noname: You wouldnt happen to know what the Eagle Arms AR10A4 upper (without the lower or any sights) costs, would you?

Kharn
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:33:13 AM EDT
Kharn---
They don't list Eagle uppers, just complete
T, A2, A4 rifles and
Lower
Lower with match trigger
Lower- stripped

Wholesale on a Armalite A4 upper is $578.00
Stainless is $631.00
Carbine and rifle same price.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:15:31 AM EDT
Well..the $800 or less certainly puts a cramp on things...other wise I would advise you to go with a new M1A.

In your case the best route would be to get a hold of a CMP M1 Garand then send it in to a good gunsmith to have it rebuilt into a national match .308 M1 Garand. Gunsmiths such as Accuracy Speaks can build you a very accurate M1 Garand for a fraction of the cost of what Fulton Armory charges. There are also a lot other very good M1 Garand specialists out there as well.

Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:43:23 AM EDT
Thanks for all the info guys,as always lots of help.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:44:41 AM EDT
There are lots of cheap 308 bullet launchers out there...$800 will not get you max 2 MOA unless you luck into that 1 in 1000 rifle/load combination. I gave up on that quest a long time ago. Best to save your pennies for an AR-10T or M-1A. Next best bet is to find a used Browning BAR with BOSS like BigDozer66 said. It can be "tuned" to the load, but still no guarantee for 2 MOA. Only other alternative is a bolt gun - Savage 10FP.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:44:41 AM EDT
$800 308.

dude you are talking bolt actions.
a rem model 7 will give you what you want for about $350.
or save up 400 more and get a AR-10

i would warn you away from cheap autos

you can get a surplus M1 for 750.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 9:50:38 AM EDT
Imbel receiver $199. @ Aims.
Grade 1 Stg-58 parts kit $300. @ JT
US parts $100. @ DSA arms

You can build up the rifle in less than 20 min. What you will end up with is a rifle that will shoot 1 1/2" @ 100yds with surplus ammo(Port/Radway/SA). When you order the parts kit, Make sure that the barrel is clean and fresh. If it's not, call JT and have them send you a new kit, or barrel.

Spend some time @ www.fnfal.com Or, you can e-mail me and I can walk you threw the build.

So far I have built up 24 rifles(mine and friends) all have shot under 2" moa. A "like new" barrel is the key. If you want to shoot under 1" moa, you can hand load and turn off the gas sytem to acheive the goal. So far my best is .70 with hand loads, gas system on but just enough to cycle the action. This rifle was built on a DSA receiver using a Global parts kit(like new), DSA US parts including one of there muzzle brakes, with the trigger worked to 3lb with zero creep. The rifle is loud, but I can shoot it all day long due to the lack of recoil.

P.S. Goatboy, the site is loading really slow.
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