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12/28/2001 2:55:19 PM EDT
Is it legal to put collapsable stocks on a preban lower that wasn't sold as a complete rifle?  I've heard both sides from "experts" now I'm confused as hell on what to tell a friend who wants to use them.
12/28/2001 2:59:45 PM EDT
[#1]
From what I learned on this board, a preban lower not sold as a complete rifle, is not preban 1994, it is now a postban.
12/28/2001 3:02:35 PM EDT
[#2]
To be able to put a collapsable stock on the rifle it had to:

a). Be built into a complete rifle before the ban

OR

b). Have all the parts to complete the rifle before the ban
12/28/2001 10:19:42 PM EDT
[#3]
So Royal Lancer: If you saw a stripped Colt pre ban for $500 you wouldn't jump on it?
12/29/2001 9:34:06 PM EDT
[#4]
The rifle was supposed to have been completed before the ban, per word of mouth from the guy who bought it from the original owner.  The question is: is it up to the present owner to prove it was complete before the ban if questioned by the BATF or is it up to the BATF to try and prove it wasn't?  When my friend got it it had the old fashioned collapsable stock on it with an after market upper (no identifiable markings but it is preban, lug and flash suppressor). The original owner can't be contacted, he moved.
12/29/2001 10:10:43 PM EDT
[#5]
The Legal forum has the answers to these questions.  Summary:

BATF recently released an opinion that states that if a pre-ban weapon was trasnferred in non-"assault weapon" configuration (such as an AR being sold as a lower only), it is no longer pre-ban.

Many of doubt that this new "opinion" will actually hold up in court, though, as it reverses a long-held understanding and practice, and would appear to be beyond the wording of the actual law.  Note that since the new BATF guy took over from Ed Owens, he's made several BS rulings, some of which he's had to recind.

-Troy
12/30/2001 10:38:05 AM EDT
[#6]
As Troy stated,that was an "opinion" letter and is not the law.
I would love to see this go to court.
BATF would get there wrists slapped.
cpermd
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