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Posted: 12/24/2001 10:03:09 AM EDT
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Just curious..... Do you carry your CCW pistol with a round chambered? For the record, I carry a Glock 27 with a round chambered. (Federal Hydra-Shocks) I have the grip extenstions on the mags, bringing them to 10 rounds each. That gives me a total load of 21 rounds. |
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An old Texas Sherriff was observed carrying his holstered 1911 cocked and unlocked, with a leather thong tied around the grip safety. When asked, "Isn't that kind of dangerous?", he replied, "Damned right it is! No sense in carrying the thing if it weren't dangerous!" -Troy |
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Defendant: "When I saw him come at me I pulled my pistol, racked the slide, took aim, and fired." Prosecutor: "So your pistol wasn't loaded at the beginning of the encounter?" Defendant: "No." Prosecutor: "So you had enough time to draw your pistol, load it, aim it, and fire, but you didn't have enough time to run away and call the police?" Defendant: "I was in danger, this big guy with a knife was coming at me; I had to shoot!" Prosecutor: "I'm sure you didn't think that maybe you could have run away and let the authorities deal with this instead of killing a man. Since you had the time to load the pistol you had time to try to get away without killing anybody." |
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We were watching TV one night and there was a 'the gun just went off' story on. I took out my bedside gun, and made my wife stare at it with a mean look. Nope, no shooting. And there is even a round in the chamber. Even tried yelling at it really loud. Darn thing just wouldn't go off. (odd, it always fires at the range every time it is supposed to, and the only thing I do different is pull that little trigger lever thing) |
H. Shooter, About 1993 while living in Memphis I put a loaded Beretta 92 to the ultimate test. First of all it was Saturday night and I'd just gotten a new W.E.B. Griffin book and had picked-up two bottles of the finest red wine (with a screw-off cap) available. Placed the pistol and wine and book on the table and started reading about midnight and read until about 5:00 AM. I don't know about other Saturday nights but that pistol never left the table and couldn't have killed anyone that night. |
| Some people carry two without one in the chamber, because if they are close to people someone can disarm them. A scary possibility when in crowds. The idea is that whoever saw fit to steal your gun isn't smart enough to rack the slide AND take the safety off before you toast him (w/ gun number 2). |
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I think Rainier's post is about a back-up piece with a chambered round and the primary handgun without a chambered round. With a concealed weapon in a crowd, who's going to know you're carrying? If people are close to you and they try to disarm you it must indicate you have the gun out and in a defensive situation, and those who are trying to grab the gun are probably the ones' you were going to shoot anyway, aren't they? I believe the best option is to have a primary pistol and a back-up gun with chambered rounds ready to shoot. Any gun grab of the primary must be dealt with by drawing and shooting the back-up piece. |
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I carry with 5, 6, 7, sometimes even 8 rounds chambered. ANd no SAFETY, either. The only practical reason I have ever seen for NOT carrying an auto with a round in the chamber are some of the cheap little .22s with a safety lever so small and difficult to operate, it was easier to cycle the slide. Not a prime choice for a carry gun. |
I believe it was a Texas Ranger. The only handgun I would carry with one in the tube and safety ON is a 1911. All double action handguns would be loaded/chambered and the safety would be used as a "decocker" only if it had that capability. Any time I un-holster the safety goes on unless it is for shooting, self defense, practice etc. the safety remains on until the weapon returns to the holster. Of cousrse YMMV, and there are exceptions such as older revolvers that should be carried with the hammer down on an empty cylinder.
Friends don't let Friends own/use/carry cheap guns. |
| Ok, I admit it, I carry with an empty chamber. The main reason for this is I am in the habit of taking my gun off in the evening and setting it on the night stand. I have 3 small children in my house and I am not willing to risk the chance of forgeting to clear one of my Glocks and having one of my kids get a hold of the pistol. I will say that my kids to this day have not touched any of my guns without permission, But I am going to play it on the safe side and just practice drawing and chambering the round on its way up onto target. |
2 words of advice Gun Vault |
I understand that. I have a gun vault, and so far it has worked flawlessly. If you punch in the wrong combo it takes a millisecond to clear it and it is fast. It has a ton of possible combos as well. If I had it to do over I would by one of the more expensive ones with an interior light ans 120v with battery back up, I have a battery only one. It also has a key back-up, I'm not disciplined enough to always have my keys, but i'm sure others are. I like the gun-vault, it's secure and fast. |
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OK, THAT DEPENDS , with my kimber ultra 45 i carry loaded chamber and hammer down when i am going back and forth to work , store, etc, but if i am going into a high threat enviroment (late night store trips, shady part of town etc) i will cock and lock. if i am carrying my glock 19, its the same way. i too have a kid and i will not leave a glock loaded in the house, even though he has been told the rights and wrongs of hand guns, kids will forget something sometime. before we had my son i carry my pistols loaded and ready to go. |
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Glock 30 1 in pipe full mag and spare. I encourage you to go to an IDPA match. http://idpa.com/clubs/clublistnew.htm Lots of fun and you get to shoot your gun with a lot of like minded people. You don't have to be a memeber In my first experience I didn't even score in the upper half. But I walked away knowing that I could draw think and shoot quickly. Builds confidence under completely controlled (Safety) conditions. In-laws were kind enough to buy me a Deluxe gunvault as a gift. Cheap insurance. even has a motion detector in it. |
5subslr5, I know what CCW stands for. I was just being sarcastic to the fact that in IL, no one can have CCW. So CCW is non-existent to me unless I move to a state that allows CCW. ArmaLiter |
Rumor has it that the Mossad carries w/o a round chambered. They have a drill that they do where the slide rack is part of the draw stroke. Any Mossad agents out there that can substantiate this? BTW, I carry loaded. Mostly a G19 with 15 rds of 147 hydra shock. Unloaded guns scare me. |
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