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6/4/2016 9:55:08 AM EDT
Sorry to post here, but I can't find anywhere online that has a forum just for range design.  Please feel free to guide me if you know of one.

I am building a range on some farm land that I own.  I'm having a cabin built and my bulldozer guy is now finishing up on my range.  These are the current dimensions as of today, and I am thinking this is where we are going to stop.  He has moved an incredible amount of dirt and I currently have a 300 yard range (will put targets at 100, 200, and 300 yards).  I am shooting at an elevation of 5'7" (Not in relation to sea level, just level of my range) towards a 300 yard target at 5', so there is a 7" downward slope over the course of the 300 yards.  Behind the 300 yard target is a slope that runs about 8 feet in elevation over about 30 yards and then I have a backstop 84 feet wide, (left to right) 15 or so feet deep (front to back), and about 15 feet high.  Thus making my backstop 23 feet total in height above where my 300 yard target will be.  Sorry if confusing.  

Does anyone see a problem with any of this?  Have any suggestions?  We can make it higher, but it really does look huge in the current state.

Just looking for help and suggestions.

Thanks.
6/4/2016 3:37:18 AM EDT
[#1]
You're gonna shoot kneeling or prone or off a bench, so you'll be shooting an upward angle - plan for it.

Low and prone shots may skip off the ground and over the berm - I see it all the time - plan for it.

Your backstop can never be too big, so just be sure what's behind and beyond, unless it's a mountainside.
6/4/2016 4:05:24 AM EDT
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You're gonna shoot kneeling or prone or off a bench, so you'll be shooting an upward angle - plan for it.

Low and prone shots may skip off the ground and over the berm - I see it all the time - plan for it.

Your backstop can never be too big, so just be sure what's behind and beyond, unless it's a mountainside.
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This is important to keep in mind. Our private range on our farm stretches 200yds in the bottom of a valley and 25 yards past the 200yd plate, the valley stops and the hill starts climbing dramatically so technically our backstop is hundreds of feet high.

Having said that, if you know who will be shooting at your range and you are confident in their abilities, I wouldn't foresee any issues with what you have. But, if you have the means to add a little bit more of a cushion, why not?

On a side note, it's hard for me to completely imagine what you have so far so if you think it's good, pay the dozer man and start breaking in that range
6/4/2016 4:16:55 AM EDT
[#3]
I know a guy whose backstop is a 10x10 steel plate. It just depends on how far you are from the neighbors.
6/4/2016 4:27:37 AM EDT
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I know a guy whose backstop is a 10x10 steel plate. It just depends on how far you are from the neighbors.
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At my mini range at my GF's house my backstop is 125 yards of bamboo
6/4/2016 6:29:21 AM EDT
[#5]
Cut the slope in front of the berm, and move the target stand as close to the berm as you can.

I would also probably lower the target stands
6/4/2016 9:17:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Thank you all for the suggestions. I think I will have him cut into that slope so I can put my target closer to the steep part of the berm.

Should I have 3 sets of targets and shoot from the same spot or 1 set of targets and shoot from 3 different spots? I suppose a table at 100, 200, and 300 is the best way to go.

At this point my only concern is bullet skip. Off to an angle I'm not shooting at would be a house (over 100 yards of trees and 1200 yards of corn field according to Google maps dimensions.) I would have to miss pretty bad to hit that, I assume.

Just want to be safe.

6/4/2016 10:27:25 AM EDT
[#7]
A old friend of mine had a 200 yd range with a slight downward slope and he marked a line on his berm that was level with the top of his bench at the firing line.

It was basically posts holding about 20ft of orange-painted 2x4
6/4/2016 10:48:07 AM EDT
[#8]
I think your plan sounds great. I'm not sure I'm qualified to give you any advice, but I would shoot a couple of tracer rounds when it's starting to get dark and you can track your bullets to make sure the back stop is good.

6/4/2016 12:15:49 PM EDT
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I think your plan sounds great. I'm not sure I'm qualified to give you any advice, but I would shoot a couple of tracer rounds when it's starting to get dark and you can track your bullets to make sure the back stop is good.



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This seems like good advice.

 
6/4/2016 1:02:06 PM EDT
[#10]
I have some tracer rounds coming from Freedom Munitions, so I will check that out.

I'm going to go out there this evening, hopefully, and then I'll take some pictures and post them.

6/4/2016 10:57:26 PM EDT
[#11]
Pictures aren't great, but hopefully you all can see what I am doing.

This one is from about 225 yards away from the flag that represents 300 yards from where I'm shooting.



This one is standing at the bottom of the berm and looking up.  Looks huge from this angle, I am 5'10" and standing while I take this picture.  Again, the flag shown is my 300 yard marker.



This one is taken with me standing on top of the berm (Has a flat top about 6' wide) looking back at where I will be shooting from.  I am around 325-350 or so.  I put a little orange mark where the flag is because I could just barely see it on the picture.  The flag represents where I will be shooting from.



Not a great picture but turned out better then the others I took.  The berm can be seen at the top right hand side of the picture.  Can't remember a rough distance on this one, but it shows the elevation pretty good.



At this point I think I am going to have my bulldozer guy cut into the berm about 5' and have my target sit lower then it currently would be....

Other suggestions/comments?

Thanks.





6/4/2016 11:46:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Elevate where you are shooting from. Have them move some dirt to do that or build a deck where even shooting prone you start from elevation.
6/4/2016 11:51:07 PM EDT
[#13]
OK. Any general rule for a good shooting elevation in regards to target elevation? Is 5' higher then the target enough?
6/5/2016 8:17:09 AM EDT
[#14]
Require that everyone only shoot "Rick Grimes style".

But seriously, I don't know if they still do, but the NRA used to have plans for ranges.  I think they'd send them to you if you were a Member.  That was quite a few years ago.

Best of luck however you decide to proceed.
6/5/2016 10:05:30 AM EDT
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What is on the other side of the berm out to around a mile? You may think one won't ever fly over but shit happens. Accidental discharge happens. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.
6/5/2016 10:23:17 AM EDT
[#16]
Behind my berm are a group of trees for 250 feet, a corn field for 1000 yards and a house not in direct line, but it is there.
6/5/2016 3:41:31 PM EDT
[#17]
I have the space but neighbors all around.  It's easier to go to the range or a friends farm.  
6/6/2016 12:33:30 AM EDT
[#18]
Mark your distances on the range and shoot from there.  Meaning keep the targets at the berm and move to your various distances you want to shoot.
6/6/2016 1:21:34 AM EDT
[#19]
I've been thinking about that the last few days and that makes sense (to leave the targets at the berm and just move to different distances).  Thanks for the suggestion.
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