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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - ACR? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/29/2013 6:55:50 PM EDT
| so i haven't been able to find much on the acr here on the forum. why is that? and dose anyone have one do you think it was worthing and why is the scar 16s and 17s so much more popular? |
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I like the ACR a lot more than the SCAR.
Unfortunately, good luck finding any kind of parts, and for a rifle touted as "Adaptable", it really isn't. It's heavy as a pig up front, too. Someone over at Bushmaster needs to take that rifle in hand and unfuck it. They'd make a killing on it. As to the price, it's pretty easy to find one (during normal times) for around $1,600 or so. I paid $1,400 for my basic version. I sold it though, due to parts issues. |
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Would it be worth it to go with the ACR over the scar if I could get the 14/15 ish cause the last one I saw was real smooth like it was butter and they kind of look the same to me. Idk tho I'm an idiot, and I rarely learn my lesson. Hence, if I didn't have my current job, I would buy another ACR, and just dump a ton of money into it. New lightweight barrel, 1:8" twist, Wylde chambered. Lighter weight railed forend. Alloy lower. Keep the enhanced folding/collapsible stock. Heck, I still might buy another one, and ditch the supplied Piston system for the one my company makes. It should work. And it's a lot lighter up front. |
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Im also looking at it by the side of the polish company Radom is from what it looks to me to be a complete copy and clone of the acr, with a few of there enhancements. GROM used the ACR briefly... So that explains a lot. The Remington Defense ACR is a nice rifle. |
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They suck, are heavy, $$$$ as much as a SCAR. Quoted:
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so i haven't been able to find much on the acr here on the forum. why is that? and dose anyone have one do you think it was worthing and why is the scar 16s and 17s so much more popular? They suck, are heavy, $$$$ as much as a SCAR. Ignore this guy. He obviously is just repeating something he read on the internet. I own both an ACR and a SCAR. The ACR does not suck and it costs considerably less than the SCAR. It is heavy, but no heavier than any modern combat rifle with a heavy profile barrel. |
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Ignore this guy. He obviously is just repeating something he read on the internet. I own both an ACR and a SCAR. The ACR does not suck and it costs considerably less than the SCAR. It is heavy, but no heavier than any modern combat rifle with a heavy profile barrel. Quoted:
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so i haven't been able to find much on the acr here on the forum. why is that? and dose anyone have one do you think it was worthing and why is the scar 16s and 17s so much more popular? They suck, are heavy, $$$$ as much as a SCAR. Ignore this guy. He obviously is just repeating something he read on the internet. I own both an ACR and a SCAR. The ACR does not suck and it costs considerably less than the SCAR. It is heavy, but no heavier than any modern combat rifle with a heavy profile barrel. It's 8 pounds bare, which is a lot. It's the same as an M4 MWS with sling, magazine and Aimpoint. |
| I am all for making some thing better and hay we have all bought an ar 15 and added non stock items to suit us. I thought the ACR stock enhanced model was the way it was ment to be. If we don't support some thing it will never grow and evolve. If can keep up with an ar 15 and take just as much punishment than what is wrong if it shoots and hits what your aiming for. Am I right or just a dreamer? |
| Oh and for the love of all that is 2nd admin they even had the Remington defense ACR in call of duty the least they can do is say we are sorry and off all of the parts in non select fire versions . And that may bust sales hell even drop the price lower and they could more than make up for the faults people see in them. And lots of money. |
| i do believe the acr was to be a clone cause of the xm8 was hks tan color g36 for us and scar just bleeds to be part of the family to. Can i just have the job at Remington please. im no gun expert i just want to see this succeed and bring the next great american rifle to the public. |
| I had both the SCAR and the ACR. The ACR most recently. Its heavy, and the lack of interest from aftermarket types is shitty. Hell, there is a lack of interest from Bushmaster/Remington. It had awesome potential, but its just at a stand still. I sold it and got a LMT MRP instead. |
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This is a good thread, I was just thinking about this same question today. I've been considering adding another 5.56 rifle to the stable. I've played with an ACR when they first came out and have been curious about them since. I was hoping some one who owned one would chime in on this. I currently own a SCAR and a LaRue Predatar and was looking for something of the same quality.
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My question for Costa would be, if he sees a 60% success rate with the ACR in his classes, how does he compare that to average everyday type of AR out there? How many times do we see failures with the AR platform? Now I don't believe that any gun is 100% reliable, I believe there are rifles that are extremely reliable, but not 100% statistically speaking.
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| im right there with you, maybe since no one has chimed in on them recently they maybe working just fine. who knows you know it would be nice to get my hands on try it and see if i like it. but i dont know thats just it. Maybe all they need is more threads like mine to kick them in the ass to promote it work till its right. |
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The acr is very nose heavy compared to the scar which is a very well balanced rifle. Really no reason to get an acr at the price point they have it at Also since the acr is just a g36 knock off. Since hk is releasing the g36 semi. Will get that instead. That is at best inaccurate. The ACR uses the same gas system as the G36, but there are many other differences that distinguish the rifles. By your line of reasoning the G36 is just an AR18 knock off which you can buy right now. The one ACR I got to play with was pretty nice. I agree with others that it is too front heavy, and it could definitely use a lighter barrel. I also don't see the utility of the ratchet system, it seems to add more weight to the rifle when a simpler attachment method could achieve the same functionality without the weight, like we see in the SCAR and XCR. |
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The acr is very nose heavy compared to the scar which is a very well balanced rifle. Really no reason to get an acr at the price point they have it at Also since the acr is just a g36 knock off. Since hk is releasing the g36 semi. Will get that instead. Whoa, whoa, whoa.... WHAT?! |
| and how often do you really need to change the caliber of the rifle. i mean at the least if i could get a 9mm lower barrel than ya hell ya ill change it take it to the range, cause the pistol range is closer and hell even to hunt hogs if it could change to 45 or 10mm. |
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My question for Costa would be, if he sees a 60% success rate with the ACR in his classes, how does he compare that to average everyday type of AR out there? How many times do we see failures with the AR platform? Now I don't believe that any gun is 100% reliable, I believe there are rifles that are extremely reliable, but not 100% statistically speaking. At a Thunder Ranch class about a month back the AR's kept on where a couple ACR's and a SCAR went tits up. Not ammo or mag related. |
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Dose anyone out there have time with the XCR rifle? I personally love mine and I'll probably never get rid of it, but customer service is non-existent and you'll have to buy the rifle/parts from third parties. If you have any problems they can be figured out by the fellas on the XCR forum, which isn't run by RobArm. It seems that you're interested in rifles with practically no support. 
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I have an XCR. But based on your posts I suspect you're looking for a"cool" rifle, preferably recognizable from a video game.
What is the purpose of the rifle? Chances are, an AR will fit the bill. If I'm right and you just want a cool rifle, I might suggest that people all impressed by what you shoot the same way people are impressed by someone squealing their tires (ie-they're not). In all actuality, I'm quite convinced you're a kid that is sleeping through his English classes. I'm impressed this thread has made it to two pages. In case you're not, my apologies and will give you credit for asking why I bought an XCR if an AR will suit most purposes. I wanted caliber conversion, which the ACR was promising, but still hasn't happened. Although its just as easy to swap uppers on an AR, I prefer the ergos and robust design of the XCR. |
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I like the ACR a lot more than the SCAR. Unfortunately, good luck finding any kind of parts, and for a rifle touted as "Adaptable", it really isn't. It's heavy as a pig up front, too. Someone over at Bushmaster needs to take that rifle in hand and unfuck it. They'd make a killing on it. As to the price, it's pretty easy to find one (during normal times) for around $1,600 or so. I paid $1,400 for my basic version. I sold it though, due to parts issues. If they had put it out for $800-850, they would have had no end to the market. The widespread beta testing would have allowed them to make a next gen lightweight 5.56 that could have become the new standard and state of the art. Oh well. What's done is done. |
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I have an XCR. But based on your posts I suspect you're looking for a"cool" rifle, preferably recognizable from a video game. What is the purpose of the rifle? Chances are, an AR will fit the bill. If I'm right and you just want a cool rifle, I might suggest that people all impressed by what you shoot the same way people are impressed by someone squealing their tires (ie-they're not). In all actuality, I'm quite convinced you're a kid that is sleeping through his English classes. I'm impressed this thread has made it to two pages. In case you're not, my apologies and will give you credit for asking why I bought an XCR if an AR will suit most purposes. I wanted caliber conversion, which the ACR was promising, but still hasn't happened. Although its just as easy to swap uppers on an AR, I prefer the ergos and robust design of the XCR. I knew I would see you post after that question, Buddy. Son, I'm not disappoint. 
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I do have an AR 15 model 2 Stag arms stock no pic rails no red dots or lasers no fancy stuff on it just a work horse. the 300 black or 9mm were going to be my next upper but i second guessed so here i am. I am also Building one for my gf as cheap as i can. As for the rest I have 2 degrees one in Computer information systems and one in Graphic communication. Ex. 3d modeling, photo shop, ect..... I am trying my best to bust the Game Mantra if its Call of duty its a 500 yard gun with hip fire from a 9mm HK mp5 Navy model. I just really want a 5.56 rifle to place next to my stag and M&P 9. I had an ak from century, the centurion 39 hated it with a passion and just sold off a Wetherby in 300 win mag as well. So im just a hope less lush when it comes to guns, and Im not sure what i want that is why I have come to the internet for answers to questions. If i could I would own them all.
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how feels and runs, yes that was what i was looking for as well as something different from most of the pac right now. and I am no long range shooter or high speed, low drag guy. Just a young man i respect the lever guns of old that were the classic ar 15 of the day. and I am glad to see you do have the caliber converts to it at least they kept there word on that.
http://youtu.be/8ta70eOP7RU and where did this guy get his 7.62 barrel convert kit? 
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Quoted: how feels and runs, yes that was what i was looking for as well as something different from most of the pac right now. and I am no long range shooter or high speed, low drag guy. Just a young man i respect the lever guns of old that were the classic ar 15 of the day. and I am glad to see you do have the caliber converts to it at least they kept there word on that. and where did this guy get his 7.62 barrel convert kit?   At Bushwhacker or Magpul coming out with an AK magazine lower. |
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It's no go to war gun. There is no one rifle that makes all the others look like scrap metal by compairison. What we do have here with the ACR is a great idea that has spawend a new platform of rifle the modular rifle piston carbine. That includes the beretta arx, scar 17/16, Robinson xcr, ACR, even the Tavor, Hk's lost xm8, the styer aug. and I've probably missed some. But as I define them they don't have buffer tubes, 5 min or less caliber changes, pistons, and some crazy weird ergos and star gazing Dreamer ideas to change the market. And folding stocks.
Maybe the ar 18 could fit in with this catatory and can you name any others like that? |
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It's no go to war gun. There is no one rifle that makes all the others look like scrap metal by compairison. What we do have here with the ACR is a great idea that has spawend a new platform of rifle the modular rifle piston carbine. That includes the beretta arx, scar 17/16, Robinson xcr, ACR, even the Tavor, Hk's lost xm8, the styer aug. and I've probably missed some. But as I define them they don't have buffer tubes, 5 min or less caliber changes, pistons, and some crazy weird ergos and star gazing Dreamer ideas to change the market. And folding stocks. Maybe the ar 18 could fit in with this catatory and can you name any others like that? Umm, the XCR was designed and hit the market before the ACR. RobArm even had to smack Bushmaster/Remington with a law suit over patent infringement when they copied the XCR's bolt release mechanism. The HK XM8 was designed before both of them. It seems like you have a solid hard on for the ACR, so that's what you should get. |
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