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Posted: 3/19/2013 7:14:14 PM EDT
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EDit: Not legal, need to go through out of state's FFL.
Okay, so I just want to double check with the Arfcom brain trust. Assuming seller "Bob" has a rifle for sale in Colorado. Then assume there is an interested buyer "Jim" from a neighboring state, oh, i dont know, say Wyoming. "Jim" (from Wyoming) is willing to drive across state lines to "Bob's" residence in Colorado to FTF purchase the rifle. Lets also assume, for all intents and purposes, "Bob" has no reason to believe Jim would be prohibited from buying a firearm, and that there would be a bill of sale done as well. Is this legal? Or would it need to go through an FFL in Wyoming? My research on the BATFE site seems to indicate yes, it would be legal: Link to ATF Site with below info Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?
A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes. [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30] All serious replies appreciated. If this is in the wrong forum, I apologize Mods for you havIng to move it, I just figured it was a good general firearm question that I could quickly get answers from here. FEDs/ATF Agents/LEOs trolling this site: Please don't shoot my dawg, and I would never break the law, hence the clarifying question. Thanks KingOfTheBumps |
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Quoted: Okay, so I just want to double check with the Arfcom brain trust. Assuming seller "Bob" has a rifle for sale in Colorado. Then assume there is an interested buyer "Jim" from a neighboring state, oh, i dont know, say Wyoming. "Jim" (from Wyoming) is willing to drive across state lines to "Bob's" residence in Colorado to FTF purchase the rifle. Lets also assume, for all intents and purposes, "Bob" has no reason to believe Jim would be prohibited from buying a firearm, and that there would be a bill of sale done as well. Is this legal? Or would it need to go through an FFL in Wyoming? My research on the BATFE site seems to indicate yes, it would be legal: Link to ATF Site with below info Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA? A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes. [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30] All serious replies appreciated. If this is in the wrong forum, I apologize Mods for you havIng to move it, I just figured it was a good general firearm question that I could quickly get answers from here. FEDs/ATF Agents/LEOs trolling this site: Please don't shoot my dawg, and I would never break the law, hence the clarifying question. Thanks KingOfTheBumps I highlighted the important part. Unless Bob is an FFL then Jim can't cross state lines and buy it from Bob because its not Jim's own state. |
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Okay, so I just want to double check with the Arfcom brain trust. Assuming seller "Bob" has a rifle for sale in Colorado. Then assume there is an interested buyer "Jim" from a neighboring state, oh, i dont know, say Wyoming. "Jim" (from Wyoming) is willing to drive across state lines to "Bob's" residence in Colorado to FTF purchase the rifle. Lets also assume, for all intents and purposes, "Bob" has no reason to believe Jim would be prohibited from buying a firearm, and that there would be a bill of sale done as well. Is this legal? Or would it need to go through an FFL in Wyoming? My research on the BATFE site seems to indicate yes, it would be legal: Link to ATF Site with below info Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?
A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes. [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30] All serious replies appreciated. If this is in the wrong forum, I apologize Mods for you havIng to move it, I just figured it was a good general firearm question that I could quickly get answers from here. FEDs/ATF Agents/LEOs trolling this site: Please don't shoot my dawg, and I would never break the law, hence the clarifying question. Thanks KingOfTheBumps I highlighted the important part. Unless Bob is an FFL then Jim can't cross state lines and buy it from Bob because its not Jim's own state. Ahh, nice catch. This is why I go to arfcom. So it has to go through an FFL in Jim's state then. Got it. Thank you! 
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With all this anti-gun shit going on I would definitely advise "Bob" do not under no circumstances offer to sell "Jim" any firearm w/o going through an FFL. "Jim" could very likely be Mr. BATFE conducting some undercover field work to try and fuck someone in the ass.
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