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Posted: 12/28/2019 2:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff: I'll be somewhat disappointed if the ARX that I've been testing only does good with expensive match ammo... I really can't afford to go that route, I much rather stock M193. I have about 6000 rounds of M855 though, so I was really hoping it would be at least decent with it. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2019 3:40:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus:
M193 varies greatly in terms of quality. Try different brands, and try 223 as well. Most have good luck with PMC in these things, I found Wolf Gold to be okay, and it really likes any load with the Hornady 55gr FMJBT bullet. Stay away from the frontier 5.56 M193 though, there are enough lots with pressure issues that I would not risk it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff: I'll be somewhat disappointed if the ARX that I've been testing only does good with expensive match ammo... I really can't afford to go that route, I much rather stock M193. I have about 6000 rounds of M855 though, so I was really hoping it would be at least decent with it. |
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Posted: 12/28/2019 3:53:38 PM EDT
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I haven’t used IMI in the ARX, but I haven’t been happy with the IMI razorcore 77gr. The black hills load and legit mk.262 mod.0 are substantially better. But then again, sample size of 1 and all and I may have just got a wonky lot which does happen from time to time even with big manufacturers.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2019 5:40:08 PM EDT
[#4]
I use the ones from RobertRTG and they are better suited to the high rail on the ARX. Regular AR height sights are pretty high, but work OK.
The factory sights seem better suited to a "no witness" sight picture with a red dot - using a lower RDS that is below the sight plane when the sights are up and usable when they are folded. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2019 6:51:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5ardaukar:
I haven’t used IMI in the ARX, but I haven’t been happy with the IMI razorcore 77gr. The black hills load and legit mk.262 mod.0 are substantially better. But then again, sample size of 1 and all and I may have just got a wonky lot which does happen from time to time even with big manufacturers. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 12/28/2019 10:10:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Uys:
I use the ones from RobertRTG and they are better suited to the high rail on the ARX. Regular AR height sights are pretty high, but work OK. The factory sights seem better suited to a "no witness" sight picture with a red dot - using a lower RDS that is below the sight plane when the sights are up and usable when they are folded. |
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Posted: 1/9/2020 11:48:42 AM EDT
[#7]
Anyone try Magpul Pro BUS? Just got a set to put on my SBR.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2020 12:02:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChickenDaddy:
Anyone try Magpul Pro BUS? Just got a set to put on my SBR. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/9/2020 7:10:23 PM EDT
[#9]
Just get the LPA MAS series sights.
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USA
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Posted: 1/9/2020 8:12:08 PM EDT
[#10]
Seriously the factory buis work just fine...they are for back up after all...
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Posted: 1/10/2020 1:29:20 AM EDT
[#11]
Troy micros on mine
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Posted: 1/10/2020 5:03:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06:
Seriously the factory buis work just fine...they are for back up after all... |
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USA
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Posted: 1/11/2020 9:52:13 AM EDT
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Oh suck...KRISS USA has their Defiance low pro sights on sale right now...I run a set on my POF AR10...great set...lowest profile sight...$45 bucks shipped....if you wait a couple of hours for KRISS to send you a free shipping code if you don't checkout
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Posted: 1/11/2020 9:03:19 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Just get the LPA MAS series sights. |
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Posted: 1/11/2020 10:02:50 PM EDT
[#15]
Any on your know why both of my extractor/ejector assemblies would bend inward and in turn cause the gun to start to burst fire? This is an SBR with factory 10” barrel, AAC Ranger suppressor and Shooting Sight trigger.
I have ordered new extractor/ejector assemblies but really don’t want to install them just to bend them again. I’m guessing it’s off to Beretta for a look but if one of you know something I should be looking at before going to the UPS store I’m all ears. Thanks. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2020 11:29:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Uys]
[#16]
Are the extractor/ejectors working as needed? Extracting and ejecting?
I am trying to visualize how they'd effect firing a round or rounds instead of the hammer, firing pin, trigger, etc on the ARX trigger group. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2020 11:51:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Uys:
Are the extractor/ejectors working as needed? Extracting and ejecting? I am trying to visualize how they'd effect firing a round or rounds instead of the hammer, firing pin, trigger, etc on the ARX trigger group. Pictures might be interesting to see. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 12:00:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Uys]
[#18]
As they are dual purpose, the extractor/ejector unit (x2), if they could somehow perform the same function at the same time then it'd be a different set of problems?
They'd both extract at the same time, so the fired round would extract and not eject or they'd both eject at the same time, not extracting the fired round at all? Don't know if something could muck up the ejection direction selector plate and do that, but that's not what he's describing. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 12:09:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Uys]
[#19]
This is also where easily giving in to peer pressure and buying another ARX would make it handy to troubleshoot.
I'd have to look at my bolt to see if the ext/ejectors could bend in enough to push forward on the tail of the firing pin? From memory, I'd think they would have to bend inward at almost 90 degrees to do that. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 10:57:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Uys:
This is also where easily giving in to peer pressure and buying another ARX would make it handy to troubleshoot. I'd have to look at my bolt to see if the ext/ejectors could bend in enough to push forward on the tail of the firing pin? From memory, I'd think they would have to bend inward at almost 90 degrees to do that. Oh and the dual extractors/ejectors both act as extractors at the same time always, which is one of the great things about the ARX. The only thing that is switchable is which one becomes the ejector. To me it kind of sounds like something got messed up on the Shooting Sight trigger installation, but as to why he suspects that it's the extractors/ejectors I have no idea... Though he must be seeing something that leads him to think that. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 11:45:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff: As far as I can tell it's not possible, something has to be severely messed up for what has been described to be happening Oh and the dual extractors/ejectors both act as extractors at the same time always, which is one of the great things about the ARX. The only thing that is switchable is which one becomes the ejector. To me it kind of sounds like something got messed up on the Shooting Sight trigger installation, but as to why he suspects that it's the extractors/ejectors I have no idea... Though he must be seeing something that leads him to think that. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 1:14:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Uys: Gotcha, so the tail of the ext/ejector that impacts the rear plate is acting as the ejector when its travel is abruptly stopped. The tail that passes through the hole in the plate just acts like it always does, as an extractor? I see now as the ext/ejector units both always keep tension pulling from the face of the bolt rearward until one of them is stopped. I wish I could think of stuff like that. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 3:12:37 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff: Yep, exactly. And I agree, the thought and engineering that went into the ARX's unique features is pretty cool... Some of it is so simple that you wonder how it hasn't ever been done before. The quick detach barrel and folding/ telescoping stocks are some of those "gotta have" features that I really don't care a lot about though. I do like the ambi nature, and it's a great feature, but the downside of having a giant ejection port for debris facing the shooter is related to that, so eh. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 3:50:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NightOwl: Honestly, I have an inordinate love for the bottom magrelease/ bho along with the stock BHO & mag release. I can understand the regular mag release might be in a bad spot for some hands, so it and the safety should be more AR-15-located, but overall the design is just very neat and should be copied. Ease of disassembly is also a great feature. The quick detach barrel and folding/ telescoping stocks are some of those "gotta have" features that I really don't care a lot about though. I do like the ambi nature, and it's a great feature, but the downside of having a giant ejection port for debris facing the shooter is related to that, so eh. Mag catch/release position seems fine to me, and I love the location of the bolt catch/release. I also prefer the safety location to that of an AR for ambidextrous use, because on an AR one of the levers is always kinda in the way of my firing hand... I don't have this issue with the ARX due to it's location. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2020 6:20:53 PM EDT
[#25]
What are your all’s sling setups?
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Posted: 1/12/2020 10:03:25 PM EDT
[#26]
Sorry guys, fresh snow today so the powder called.
I can get some pictures up soon. The extractor/ejectors aren’t bent too bad but they did cause the BCG to lock/bind in battery. After pulling the charging handle and slamming the butt to the ground it unlocked. That’s when I broke it down and found them bent. As someone else has suggested in and IM, I need to check to see if the firing pin is stuck. Super strange as this gun has been flawless for years and about 1000+ rounds (not much I know). Then, one day I take it out and the first pull of the trigger it runs a 3-4 round burst. Then another. That’s when I stopped. I’ll get some photos of the extractor/ejector assemblies and check out the firing pin. Thanks. |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 10:31:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leonidas777:
What are your all's sling setups? Clipped to a loop made of Paracord run through the side sling loops. On a related note, has anyone removed by the front metal sling loop? Did you have to drill it out? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2020 1:01:23 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sunnybean:
Sorry guys, fresh snow today so the powder called. I can get some pictures up soon. The extractor/ejectors aren’t bent too bad but they did cause the BCG to lock/bind in battery. After pulling the charging handle and slamming the butt to the ground it unlocked. That’s when I broke it down and found them bent. As someone else has suggested in and IM, I need to check to see if the firing pin is stuck. Super strange as this gun has been flawless for years and about 1000+ rounds (not much I know). Then, one day I take it out and the first pull of the trigger it runs a 3-4 round burst. Then another. That’s when I stopped. I’ll get some photos of the extractor/ejector assemblies and check out the firing pin. Thanks. |
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Posted: 1/13/2020 10:22:16 AM EDT
[#29]
I mounted an old Aimpoint Comp ML2 on a low ARMS mount (it's what I had
 ) and put it on my ARX. The height is perfect.I sighted it in on an Appleseed target and shot a quick and dirty AQT. It did alright, and I was basically doing it as one long string. But after a quick 30 rounds, the handguard's vent holes were putting out a good amount of smoke. I'm not worried, it was the first time I ever shot that much with it. But my last ten rounds impacted much higher than the rest. I don't know if I was accidentally resting the mag on the ground when I was prone, or if the barrel has a POI change when it gets hot. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2020 6:32:19 PM EDT
[#30]
I know I’m late to the party but I decided to order an ARX while they are still available and reasonably priced, I’m excited to try it out.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2020 12:31:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: QB]
[#31]
Do you mind sharing who you ordered from, I wasn't aware any 16" were in stock. Maybe you ordered a SBR ?
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2020 12:49:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KS-Diesel]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QB:
Do you mind sharing who you ordered from, I wasn't aware any 16" were in stock. Maybe you ordered a SBR ? I paid $899 shipped, it is a 16”. |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 9:19:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sunnybean]
[#33]
Okay here’s some photos showing the bent extractor/ejector assemblies. The left side is worse than the right side.
 Attached File Attached File Attached FileI don’t feel the firing pin dragging but did notice that there is a dent near the pin channel from the hammer. I need to inspect the lpk/fcg and it’s installation.  Attached FileIf anyone has thoughts I’d love to hear them. Also, for any of you that have had stocking firing pins how did you solve the issue? |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2020 9:50:38 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BulletBait: Black is for range toys. I prefer my fighting rifles in tan. That's Hot! |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2020 10:39:28 AM EDT
[#35]
That 7 o'clock area of the rear of the bolt is where the hammer would impact if the hammer was dropping before the bolt was locked? Sound right?
The hammer channel runs 6 to 12 o'clock when the bolt is locked. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2020 12:06:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sunnybean:
Okay here’s some photos showing the bent extractor/ejector assemblies. The left side is worse than the right side. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96670/6760DD86-CB81-433B-BDF9-0CC5006C0B93_jpe-1235041.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96670/36DCD0C5-6557-4504-AE30-324FCF2A2D43_jpe-1235042.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96670/2FE812BC-06BA-4962-AE0F-1FD0BC2AC524_jpe-1235043.JPG I don’t feel the firing pin dragging but did notice that there is a dent near the pin channel from the hammer. I need to inspect the lpk/fcg and it’s installation. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96670/BF74937B-B158-4ACE-A54A-FBAF8A4C30AA_jpe-1235044.JPG If anyone has thoughts I’d love to hear them. Also, for any of you that have had stocking firing pins how did you solve the issue? Also, that dent on the back of the bolt indicates that the bolt is not fully locked when the hammer is dropping. Definitely check to make sure that your disconnector is working, maybe the spring is missing or broken? I've also seen someone else with a dent on the firing pin channel on their bolt, I think it was determined that it was happening while the bolt was beginning it's travel rearward and dragging on the first Generation Shooting Sight hammers which didn't have chamfered edges on both sides of the hammer face. However, in your situation with the gun firing bursts makes me think that it's a disconnector problem. I also wonder if the use of the sound suppressor doesn't have something to do with the extractors/ejectors bending. Maybe the impact velocity is just too much for them to handle with the added back pressure from the suppressor? |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 8:53:26 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:I also wonder if the use of the sound suppressor doesn't have something to do with the extractors/ejectors bending. Maybe the impact velocity is just too much for them to handle with the added back pressure from the suppressor? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2020 10:15:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL:
My factory SBR barrel is so overgassed, I won’t even consider suppressing it without addressing that first. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJofFL:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:I also wonder if the use of the sound suppressor doesn't have something to do with the extractors/ejectors bending. Maybe the impact velocity is just too much for them to handle with the added back pressure from the suppressor? |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2020 1:56:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Well I was able to pick mine up from my FFL a couple of nights ago.
Mine seems to be a single stage trigger, kind of heavy but very crisp when it breaks. I like the Ambi controls, being a left handed shooter that was one of the draws for me. The charging handle is a little small, I’ll have to do something there. I wish the LOP was a little longer but I can live with that. 
I’ll have to go shoot it before I pass any more judgment. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2020 8:58:02 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KS-Diesel:
Well I was able to pick mine up from my FFL a couple of nights ago. Mine seems to be a single stage trigger, kind of heavy but very crisp when it breaks. I like the Ambi controls, being a left handed shooter that was one of the draws for me. The charging handle is a little small, I’ll have to do something there. I wish the LOP was a little longer but I can live with that. There's a couple of things you should buy to make the gun a little better... Get yourself this: Enlarged Cocking Handle And this: Lower Picatinny Rail |
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Posted: 1/20/2020 9:32:58 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KS-Diesel:
Well I was able to pick mine up from my FFL a couple of nights ago. Mine seems to be a single stage trigger, kind of heavy but very crisp when it breaks. I like the Ambi controls, being a left handed shooter that was one of the draws for me. The charging handle is a little small, I’ll have to do something there. I wish the LOP was a little longer but I can live with that. https://i.postimg.cc/4NTK3ncw/50-BFF197-6-D58-435-F-940-D-0-EA9-B08-C8241.jpg I’ll have to go shoot it before I pass any more judgment. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2020 1:18:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jmftexas: The guns and titties magazine.....where? I actually bought mine at a gun show but these look the same. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2020 1:19:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AngryBeaver: Did you already extend the telescoping stock all the way? There's a couple of things you should buy to make the gun a little better... Get yourself this: Enlarged Cocking Handle And this: Lower Picatinny Rail |
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Posted: 1/20/2020 7:40:53 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KS-Diesel:
Here you go. I actually bought mine at a gun show but these look the same. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KS-Diesel:
Originally Posted By jmftexas: The guns and titties magazine.....where? I actually bought mine at a gun show but these look the same. 
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Posted: 1/21/2020 12:22:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_Blaster]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sunnybean:
Okay here’s some photos showing the bent extractor/ejector assemblies. The left side is worse than the right side. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96670/6760DD86-CB81-433B-BDF9-0CC5006C0B93_jpe-1235041.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96670/36DCD0C5-6557-4504-AE30-324FCF2A2D43_jpe-1235042.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96670/2FE812BC-06BA-4962-AE0F-1FD0BC2AC524_jpe-1235043.JPG I don’t feel the firing pin dragging but did notice that there is a dent near the pin channel from the hammer. I need to inspect the lpk/fcg and it’s installation. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/96670/BF74937B-B158-4ACE-A54A-FBAF8A4C30AA_jpe-1235044.JPG If anyone has thoughts I’d love to hear them. Also, for any of you that have had stocking firing pins how did you solve the issue? |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 12:52:33 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster: I'm wondering if the can is causing an over pressure condition. Did you ever shoot the 10" bbl without a can mounted? Seems the S setting isn't working for silencer use, especially in the case of full size cans that generate relatively longer gas dwell times. Absolutely buried in work right now but when I get a chance I will try to straighten the ejector/extractor assembly’s and see if the problem persists. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/23/2020 4:54:04 AM EDT
[#47]
I would suspect bending compromised the extractor/ejectors. Perhaps consider replacing them.
BTW, anyone know if there is there anything newsworthy happening at the Beretta SHOT Show 2020 booth? |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 10:57:35 AM EDT
[#48]
These are still in production?
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:39:00 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sunnybean: May have contributed. I’m sure it didn’t help. I have shot it both suppressed and unsuppressed without issue. I checked the disconnector along with everything else in the fcg. I don’t see any issue. Absolutely buried in work right now but when I get a chance I will try to straighten the ejector/extractor assembly’s and see if the problem persists. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:39:36 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dissident:
These are still in production? Can they make more? Definitely. Are they making more? Quite possibly Are they making more for public sale? Probably not, they just landed some foreign contracts, so if those include US export-ok ones... On other boards there are serial numbers with late 2018 assembly dates, FWIW. |
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