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Posted: 3/11/2012 12:13:49 AM EDT
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I am aware of a few company's that build stocks or forearms for such weapons as the M 1 Garand, M1 carbine. I also recall seeing a few episodes of Sons Of Guns were a Thompson SMG and WW2 belt fed LMG ( unsure of nomenclature ) were modified with more modern accessories such as rails and collapsible stocks.
What I would really like to see in a modern Thompson is using alloys in place of steel on the receiver and any other areas to lighten it, better compensator / flash suppressor and / or ability to attach a sound suppressor. Along with rails for attaching forward grips, lights and such, folding and collapsing stock, better iron sights if needed and figure out the best barrel length and rifle twist ratio for CQC. Also see if these mods can be applied to the M 3 SMG or BAR LMG . I know it's a long shot, but if anyone has seen or heard of this kind of stuff please let me know. We can all dream can't we. 
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I am aware of a few company's that build stocks or forearms for such weapons as the M 1 Garand, M1 carbine. I also recall seeing a few episodes of Sons Of Guns were a Thompson SMG and WW2 belt fed LMG ( unsure of nomenclature ) were modified with more modern accessories such as rails and collapsible stocks. What I would really like to see in a modern Thompson is using alloys in place of steel on the receiver and any other areas to lighten it, better compensator / flash suppressor and / or ability to attach a sound suppressor. Along with rails for attaching forward grips, lights and such, folding and collapsing stock, better iron sights if needed and figure out the best barrel length and rifle twist ratio for CQC. Also see if these mods can be applied to the M 3 SMG or BAR LMG . I know it's a long shot, but if anyone has seen or heard of this kind of stuff please let me know. We can all dream can't we. M1A1 Thompson with rails? YOU BETTER WAKE UP AND APPOLIGIZE!  
GAME CHANGAH! 
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These guns have already been updated. That is, the designs were thrown out for newer ones that are more adaptable, reliable, and take advantage of modern production methods.
I'm not saying any of those guns are bad designs (for their time period they were excellent), but compared to modern guns and in light of modern tactics, they just can't hold up. |
| I am all for new gun designs, but I think there is little demand for revisions of old designs. SMGs have a very small and decreasing demand, and newer designs have come out that are just better. It seems to be easier to just design a gun from scratch than to modify and try to redesign an old one. |
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Quoted: What I would really like to see in a modern Thompson is using alloys in place of steel on the receiver and any other areas to lighten it, better compensator / flash suppressor and / or ability to attach a sound suppressor. Along with rails for attaching forward grips, lights and such, folding and collapsing stock, better iron sights if needed and figure out the best barrel length and rifle twist ratio for CQC. The UMP or Kriss are what you are looking for. |
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What I would really like to see in a modern Thompson is using alloys in place of steel on the receiver and any other areas to lighten it, better compensator / flash suppressor and / or ability to attach a sound suppressor. Along with rails for attaching forward grips, lights and such, folding and collapsing stock, better iron sights if needed and figure out the best barrel length and rifle twist ratio for CQC. The UMP or Kriss are what you are looking for. +1 |
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During WWII several M1 Thompsons were made with receivers of stainless steel and aluminum. I believe at least one of of the stainless steel versions is a transferrable gun. The aluminum ones did not survive the durability testing. There was also an "ambi" M1 Thompson with a cocking handle slot on both sides made in that period. Several Thompsons with integral suppressors have been made. As an open bolt firing gun, it does not suppress well. Another experiment involved Thompsons with straight stocks to reduce the climb inherent in the original design. These guns had the raised sights as one sees on an AR-10/M16 and many other straight stock rifles.
As others have noted, sometimes you should shift your paradigm when new technologies appear that will enable the shift. That said, at least one guy used to sell a Picatinny rail that would mount on the Thompson receiver using the standard four rear sight mount holes to replace the standard rear sights. I haven't seen it advertised for some time. Best of luck with your endeavors. Not legal advice, MHO, YMMV, etc. |
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I am aware of a few company's that build stocks or forearms for such weapons as the M 1 Garand, M1 carbine. I also recall seeing a few episodes of Sons Of Guns were a Thompson SMG and WW2 belt fed LMG ( unsure of nomenclature ) were modified with more modern accessories such as rails and collapsible stocks. What I would really like to see in a modern Thompson is using alloys in place of steel on the receiver and any other areas to lighten it, better compensator / flash suppressor and / or ability to attach a sound suppressor. Along with rails for attaching forward grips, lights and such, folding and collapsing stock, better iron sights if needed and figure out the best barrel length and rifle twist ratio for CQC. Also see if these mods can be applied to the M 3 SMG or BAR LMG . I know it's a long shot, but if anyone has seen or heard of this kind of stuff please let me know. We can all dream can't we. No need to mutilate a piece of history. There are plenty of modern options available. Figure these are 1918 and 1927 (approx) designs, surely something produced from the get-go to use aluminum or polymer is going to be better than retrofitting an old school direct blowback system. Kind of a "Just because you can doesn't mean you should." situation. Even professionally done, nobody wants to see picatinny rails on a Thompson or BAR. Case in point, this shit raises my blood pressure to about 180/100... |
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I think I get what your saying. I've been trying to find someone doing thi after reading but can't
I'm going to venture the guess that you love these guns and don't really care that the designs have been superseded, and like me are a sucker for old fashioned classics. It seems a lot of guys are missing your point, you just want an updated classic, I think its a neat Idea and I'll keep researching it. |
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I am aware of a few company's that build stocks or forearms for such weapons as the M 1 Garand, M1 carbine. I also recall seeing a few episodes of Sons Of Guns were a Thompson SMG and WW2 belt fed LMG ( unsure of nomenclature ) were modified with more modern accessories such as rails and collapsible stocks. What I would really like to see in a modern Thompson is using alloys in place of steel on the receiver and any other areas to lighten it, better compensator / flash suppressor and / or ability to attach a sound suppressor. Along with rails for attaching forward grips, lights and such, folding and collapsing stock, better iron sights if needed and figure out the best barrel length and rifle twist ratio for CQC. Also see if these mods can be applied to the M 3 SMG or BAR LMG . I know it's a long shot, but if anyone has seen or heard of this kind of stuff please let me know. We can all dream can't we. No need to mutilate a piece of history. There are plenty of modern options available. Figure these are 1918 and 1927 (approx) designs, surely something produced from the get-go to use aluminum or polymer is going to be better than retrofitting an old school direct blowback system. Kind of a "Just because you can doesn't mean you should." situation. Even professionally done, nobody wants to see picatinny rails on a Thompson or BAR. Case in point, this shit raises my blood pressure to about 180/100... I tend to disagree, I think you are misinterpreting his point. These things don't have to be completely practical, or offer an advantage over something newer. They just have to make the user smile enough to be worth the trouble. I personally like the idea, combining old fashion history with some new tactical gear. It has a steampunk partisan feel to it. |
| I just saw an ad in shotgun news for a transferable machine gun, not sure of the details but sounded like someone found a lot of it looks like german MG lowers and converted with a Suomi uppers 9mm. All updated with sliding stock and forgrip. I don't really understand what was going on with them. Are they really legal machine guns or am I reading it wrong. It seems building them into MG beltguns would have made more money, but I could be wrong. The ad says BRP Corp Buzz gun. Maybe it's a scam or non pre 84 ban or something... Can anyone clarify this for me. Isn't that what happened with Vector, they found a long forgotten lot of old half finished machine guns and flooded the market with Uzi's for a while??? |
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Auto-ordnance makes a semi-auto Thompson with an aluminum receiver. I guess that's as close to "modern" as you'll get.
http://www.auto-ordnance.com/Firearms/Thompson-T1.asp I have the aluminum TA5 pistol version. It looks cool and all, but it's a range toy. |
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The Thompson is the most uncomfortable firearm I've ever had the displeasure of shouldering. and in non-open bolt form to chamber a round from a fresh magazine you have to preform somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 manual operations.
I sold mine, it wasn't even range toy worthy. So why update it?
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What I would really like to see in a modern Thompson is using alloys in place of steel on the receiver and any other areas to lighten it, better compensator / flash suppressor and / or ability to attach a sound suppressor. Along with rails for attaching forward grips, lights and such, folding and collapsing stock, better iron sights if needed and figure out the best barrel length and rifle twist ratio for CQC. The UMP or Kriss are what you are looking for. +1 I was gonna say the same thing. |
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