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Posted: 4/15/2011 9:20:04 AM EDT
So I have to sell my AR, but I'm going to replace it with something. I'm considering a Mossy 590, CAI CETME, Sub2000 etc. I'd like a major caliber, and something reliable. Please be specific, not just "go with an ak". 
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| It doesn't make sense to sell your AR, and then spend $500.00 on another platform. If you insist on doing that for some unknown reason, the 590 is the choice amongst your listed firearms. The G3 or CETME based rifles are great when they are built to design specifications, but terrible if not. CAI just doesn't have enough consistent quality to gamble on for serious use. The Sub2000 is loved by many owners, but in the end, it's pistol calibers make it a poor choice. |
| Unless you've got some uber cool high end AR it's hard to see how selling what you have and then spending $500 on something else nets you much cash. AR market is saturated right now. Selling a used one is going to be ugly. And if you're really that hard up for cash, sell the AR, deal with the problem and then buy something else when you're back on your feet financially. |
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Get a Mossberg 500. 28" and 18" barrels and a pistol grip. You will be at around $200 for all that. Use the rest for ammo. +1! I picked up a Coast to Coast labeled Mossberg 500 for $100 from Gander Mountain last year. An extra $75 got me a new 18" barrel to go along with the 28" field barrel. |
| OP, I think if I need a rifle for HD purposes and had to go as cheap as possible, I would look for either a used marlin or winchester 30-30. The pawn shops around here have used marlins on the rack for around $200 and up. I think with a receiver peep site you could do a lot worse than a marlin lever gun. |
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Get a Mossberg 500. 28" and 18" barrels and a pistol grip. You will be at around $200 for all that. Use the rest for ammo. Will kill anything in North America plus many things elsewhere. Not a bad idea... You could do the same thing with a Rem 870. How about a CZ-58? |
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VZ-58 over the AK easily imho....the only thing the AK has on the VZ is sheer #'s produced..all imho of course. I vote VZ! I'd agree....the VZ 58 (CAI VZ2008) is a great option and if you inspect a WASR before buying....that's a good option for an AK. Like others, I doubt you're going to be ending up ahead by selling off the AR though. Why are you wanting to get rid of it? Sean |
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VZ's don't take AK Mags. Regardless, AK all-the-way. If you're not planning to get "battlefield pickups" for SHTF mags, want a mag that weighs half as much, has BHO capability, but costs about $5-7 more, then it really doesn't matter. IMO, the advantages in weight savings, and feeling the gun go dry as well as much faster reloads (with the tactical bolt release and/or left side charging handle), it's worth the extra expense in mags. Sean |
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OP, I think if I need a rifle for HD purposes and had to go as cheap as possible, I would look for either a used marlin or winchester 30-30. The pawn shops around here have used marlins on the rack for around $200 and up. I think with a receiver peep site you could do a lot worse than a marlin lever gun. I've seen a couple of decent used Marlins in that $200 to $300 range as well. With this in mind, you could possibly get into a used Marlin AND a Mossberg shotty for around your price range and have your bases covered. Were it me, I would stick with a 223, 30-30, or 12 ga. I wouldn't dismiss a used 243 or 308 bolt gun with irons either. For me, ammo availability comes into play when I consider selecting a rifle for a SHTF situation as I accept the fact that I, personally, am not going to be lugging around all the ammo that I bought cheap and stacked deep. Being able to find ammo locally, is important for me. Around my parts in South Dakota, I could walk into about any hardware store or gas station in some small town and find at least couple of boxes of the calibers I suggested. |
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OP, I think if I need a rifle for HD purposes and had to go as cheap as possible, I would look for either a used marlin or winchester 30-30. The pawn shops around here have used marlins on the rack for around $200 and up. I think with a receiver peep site you could do a lot worse than a marlin lever gun. I've seen a couple of decent used Marlins in that $200 to $300 range as well. With this in mind, you could possibly get into a used Marlin AND a Mossberg shotty for around your price range and have your bases covered. Were it me, I would stick with a 223, 30-30, or 12 ga. I wouldn't dismiss a used 243 or 308 bolt gun with irons either. For me, ammo availability comes into play when I consider selecting a rifle for a SHTF situation as I accept the fact that I, personally, am not going to be lugging around all the ammo that I bought cheap and stacked deep. Being able to find ammo locally, is important for me. Around my parts in South Dakota, I could walk into about any hardware store or gas station in some small town and find at least couple of boxes of the calibers I suggested. I think the main thing is to A) have a gun and B) have a gun you are familiar with. If all you have is grandpas old lever action 30-30 that you have hunted with all your life and shot the hell out of, IMO you will be better off than having the newest piston driven, $3K wonder that sits in the safe because you are too afraid to take it out and put a scratch on it. That said, a decent quality, fairly lightweight bolt gun in a common caliber like .243 or .308 or even .223 would not be a bad choice either, and with some shopping would fit into the OPs budget. I really like the howa ranch rifles although not sure of the quality of the scopes they come with. I would rather have a set of open sites as well and they are scope only. Maybe keep an eye on walmart, they always put savage rifles on sale around hunting season that would fit in your budget. |
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If you have to get rid of your AR for whatever reason, that reason is yours alone. Now, how many mags and how much 5.56/.223 do you have stock piled? That needs to be considered. Here's my suggestions
SU-16- Uses those items from your AR that you didn't sale. SKS- Highly dependable battle rifle Mauser 98/Yugo 24 or 48- Very dependable, major cal & surplus 8mm still available in 5 rd stripper clips Mosin Nagant 91/30- Very dependable, major cal and surplus ammo can still be had. Used Shotguns- go with a 12 ga for ammo availiblity but range is short, ammo heavy and bulky. CD |
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go to $600 and build an AR KISS....... 223 is cheap-ish (if you look hard enough you can get 500rds for $150 Federal), and 308 is like 1.50 a round. .308 is not $1.50 a round....but maybe you meant Federal. It's running 40-45 cents a round for German berdan primed mil-surp. HTH, Sean |
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If you have to get rid of your AR for whatever reason, that reason is yours alone. Now, how many mags and how much 5.56/.223 do you have stock piled? That needs to be considered. Here's my suggestions SU-16- Uses those items from your AR that you didn't sale. SKS- Highly dependable battle rifle Mauser 98/Yugo 24 or 48- Very dependable, major cal & surplus 8mm still available in 5 rd stripper clips Mosin Nagant 91/30- Very dependable, major cal and surplus ammo can still be had. Used Shotguns- go with a 12 ga for ammo availiblity but range is short, ammo heavy and bulky. CD The mags and ammo would work in the Remington pump rifle. Model 7615 Good Luck |
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If you have to get rid of your AR for whatever reason, that reason is yours alone. Now, how many mags and how much 5.56/.223 do you have stock piled? That needs to be considered. Here's my suggestions SU-16- Uses those items from your AR that you didn't sale. SKS- Highly dependable battle rifle Mauser 98/Yugo 24 or 48- Very dependable, major cal & surplus 8mm still available in 5 rd stripper clips Mosin Nagant 91/30- Very dependable, major cal and surplus ammo can still be had. Used Shotguns- go with a 12 ga for ammo availiblity but range is short, ammo heavy and bulky. CD The mags and ammo would work in the Remington pump rifle. Model 7615 Good Luck You mean the 7615 that's just as expensive as building an AR from a kit? About $600 is the cheapest I've seen one of those advertised, and they're not common enough to count on finding a used one at a good price. Get an SKS, maybe one of the versions that takes AK mags if you can find a good deal. |
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