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3/13/2011 9:00:49 PM EDT

3/14/2011 8:54:15 AM EDT
[#1]
Excellent review, enjoy all your videos. Been thinking about this optic for the future wife's AR, your review will definitely help justify buying this optic.

Blue man group FTW!
3/14/2011 9:20:55 AM EDT
[#2]
Excellent Review FAC.



Great presentation. Good editing. Good camera work.  



I agree that the Vortex SPARC looks like a great little optic. I think it's important to take a look at it for folks who want to be well rounded with their equipment and training. I know so many guys that feel they have to save up for an EOTech or Aimpoint and as a result don't get out and shoot as much as they should.
3/14/2011 5:31:24 PM EDT
[#3]
looks great. nice review.

3/14/2011 6:07:51 PM EDT
[#4]
My father has one on a Tactical Solutions M4 22 LR upper.  It is neat setup.  The 2x magnifier is definitely not the best.  I think the optic without the magnifier is a great product for the price range.  The 2x would be fine for targets or small varmints, but not much more.  I would recommend them.

Mike
3/20/2011 7:35:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks
3/21/2011 9:25:07 AM EDT
[#6]
About the only thing I don't like about the SPARC is the CR 2354 battery.  Not easy to find.
3/21/2011 9:32:29 AM EDT
[#7]
Tagola...
3/21/2011 11:41:58 AM EDT
[#8]
Just got mine from Midway for $180.00, this review was the reason I made my decision.
3/21/2011 1:03:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Got my first one from 3RP last week, got it all dialed in Saturday.. I think I'm going to pick up a couple more. Really can't beat it for the money.
3/22/2011 2:38:42 AM EDT
[#10]
purchased one for my ar15, but also mount it on my vz58 just to see how it holds up.  very satisfied with the sparc even when using the magnifier on both rifles at 100 yards with good results.  now i just gotta get another one for the vz
3/22/2011 6:13:18 AM EDT
[#11]
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Got my first one from 3RP last week, got it all dialed in Saturday.. I think I'm going to pick up a couple more. Really can't beat it for the money.


Just got on 3RP to purchase the SPARC and there out of stock! Hope they get more in before the coupon code expires!
3/23/2011 6:04:06 AM EDT
[#12]
Fragile toys. I destroyed two of them before I stepped back up to an Aimpoint. They do make a fairly decent hobby sight, I suppose, as long as they arent exposed to any sort of real use.
3/23/2011 6:47:19 AM EDT
[#13]



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Got my first one from 3RP last week, got it all dialed in Saturday.. I think I'm going to pick up a couple more. Really can't beat it for the money.




Just got on 3RP to purchase the SPARC and there out of stock! Hope they get more in before the coupon code expires!


Brian didn't mention any expiration date on the promo code, so you should be fine for now.  He had a run on them with the price that he was offering, which isn't surprising, it's a very good price.



 
3/23/2011 7:43:14 AM EDT
[#14]
I really wanted to hate this optic.   I have all kinds of quality glass and this is my only "sub par" optic.   I used it on my 762 tok converted m11 see below:


It is holding up quite well on the little magnum full auto ghetto rattle trap.  I got it in a trade a few months back and I am quite happy with it.   IS it as clear as my aimpoints?   NO but on a close quarter fun gun, it works great.   It has not changed POI or shifted anything.   But I hate the availability of the battery.


3/23/2011 3:53:01 PM EDT
[#15]
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Fragile toys. I destroyed two of them before I stepped back up to an Aimpoint. They do make a fairly decent hobby sight, I suppose, as long as they arent exposed to any sort of real use.


Details?

3/23/2011 3:59:38 PM EDT
[#16]
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Fragile toys. I destroyed two of them before I stepped back up to an Aimpoint. They do make a fairly decent hobby sight, I suppose, as long as they arent exposed to any sort of real use.


Details?



I'm curious as well.. not only the circumstances of the failure, but what is considered "real use" in this context.
3/23/2011 6:30:16 PM EDT
[#17]
The first one I had was damaged during SWAT training, scaling a wall. The entire control module broke away from the sight, rendering it useless. When I returned it, it was replaced with an identical model. When I mounted the sight, and attempted to zero it, it lacked any sort of elevation adjustment. No matter how much you turned the elevation knob, it never moved. I suppose you could say I killed one, and one was DOA.

3/23/2011 7:02:04 PM EDT
[#18]
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The first one I had was damaged during SWAT training, scaling a wall. The entire control module broke away from the sight, rendering it useless. When I returned it, it was replaced with an identical model. When I mounted the sight, and attempted to zero it, it lacked any sort of elevation adjustment. No matter how much you turned the elevation knob, it never moved. I suppose you could say I killed one, and one was DOA.



Interesting.. thanks for the details. I'm willing to chalk up the DOA unit to the odd manufacturing/QA failure, but the side module coming off is troubling. While Vortex's "No BS" lifetime warranty is nice, I'd prefer they turn out a product that doesn't require it.
3/23/2011 7:07:27 PM EDT
[#19]
I think the sight would be a contender if they had just used a simple rotary dial for on/off/brightness. Aimpoint uses it, and it works. Much less to go wrong.
3/26/2011 9:15:10 PM EDT
[#20]
What is the battery life of one of these units, does it even compare with Aimpoint?

Also, is the site parallax free like an Aimpoint?
3/27/2011 3:39:39 AM EDT
[#21]
My SPARC lasted a couple hundred rounds before I had a problem. The dot shut off during recoil. I checked to make sure I didn't click the NV button accidentally (easy to do), then decided to fire again to finish the magazine. After 2 more shots the dot came back on. It still held its zero, but now I don't trust it.

Also, the mounting hardware that came with the SPARC has very cheap screws that strip very easy.

I only used the 2x magnifier to zero.
3/27/2011 6:57:45 AM EDT
[#22]



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My SPARC lasted a couple hundred rounds before I had a problem. The dot shut off during recoil. I checked to make sure I didn't click the NV button accidentally (easy to do), then decided to fire again to finish the magazine. After 2 more shots the dot came back on. It still held its zero, but now I don't trust it.



Also, the mounting hardware that came with the SPARC has very cheap screws that strip very easy.



I only used the 2x magnifier to zero.


I'm sorry to hear that.  I've been shooting mine now for a while and despite my best efforts, mine is holding up fine.  As a matter of fact, I'l be getting at least one more to put on another rifle.



Vortex has a lifetime warranty and a good reputation for taking care of their customers, did they take care of you?



 
3/27/2011 6:39:12 PM EDT
[#23]



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About the only thing I don't like about the SPARC is the CR 2354 battery.  Not easy to find.
Digi Key is your friend. I ordered a few from them and it wasn't too bad.





 
3/27/2011 6:42:21 PM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


My SPARC lasted a couple hundred rounds before I had a problem. The dot shut off during recoil. I checked to make sure I didn't click the NV button accidentally (easy to do), then decided to fire again to finish the magazine. After 2 more shots the dot came back on. It still held its zero, but now I don't trust it.



Also, the mounting hardware that came with the SPARC has very cheap screws that strip very easy.



I only used the 2x magnifier to zero.
Had the same issue with the battery. You'll think that the battery cap is all the way down and it's not.  I found that out the hard way on a day of Deer season last fall.





 
3/28/2011 5:12:12 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:

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My SPARC lasted a couple hundred rounds before I had a problem. The dot shut off during recoil. I checked to make sure I didn't click the NV button accidentally (easy to do), then decided to fire again to finish the magazine. After 2 more shots the dot came back on. It still held its zero, but now I don't trust it.

Also, the mounting hardware that came with the SPARC has very cheap screws that strip very easy.

I only used the 2x magnifier to zero.

I'm sorry to hear that.  I've been shooting mine now for a while and despite my best efforts, mine is holding up fine.  As a matter of fact, I'l be getting at least one more to put on another rifle.

Vortex has a lifetime warranty and a good reputation for taking care of their customers, did they take care of you?
 



I cannot speak for him, but they did me right. That being said, a lifetime warranty means shit if I spend a lifetime replacing them. After two, I learned my lesson, and went back to Aimpoint. There are times that you really do get what you pay for.
3/28/2011 6:59:28 AM EDT
[#26]



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Quoted:

My SPARC lasted a couple hundred rounds before I had a problem. The dot shut off during recoil. I checked to make sure I didn't click the NV button accidentally (easy to do), then decided to fire again to finish the magazine. After 2 more shots the dot came back on. It still held its zero, but now I don't trust it.



Also, the mounting hardware that came with the SPARC has very cheap screws that strip very easy.



I only used the 2x magnifier to zero.


I'm sorry to hear that.  I've been shooting mine now for a while and despite my best efforts, mine is holding up fine.  As a matter of fact, I'l be getting at least one more to put on another rifle.



Vortex has a lifetime warranty and a good reputation for taking care of their customers, did they take care of you?

 






I cannot speak for him, but they did me right. That being said, a lifetime warranty means shit if I spend a lifetime replacing them. After two, I learned my lesson, and went back to Aimpoint. There are times that you really do get what you pay for.



I think it would be a poor choice for "SWAT training" or any military application.  I don't believe that's their target market and if I were in such a field I wouldn't even consider anything but Aimpoint or EOTech.  Actually, I would only use Aimpoint.



For the vast majority of the civilians out there looking for a quality optic for their range guns, the Vortex offers higher quality than something like a Bushnell TRS-25 or one of the cheap Chinese made clones of various popular highend optics.  I would also place them above popular low cost optics like Primary Arms in terms of durability and quality.  It doesn't reach to the level of an Aimpoint in ruggedness, and I don't believe it's been marketed as such.  I've kicked mine around for a little while now and I'm impressed.  I've wrecked lesser sights in the same amount of time.  I'll keep my Aimpoints on my "serious" rifles.



 
3/28/2011 8:52:49 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
My SPARC lasted a couple hundred rounds before I had a problem. The dot shut off during recoil. I checked to make sure I didn't click the NV button accidentally (easy to do), then decided to fire again to finish the magazine. After 2 more shots the dot came back on. It still held its zero, but now I don't trust it.

Also, the mounting hardware that came with the SPARC has very cheap screws that strip very easy.

I only used the 2x magnifier to zero.


Same exact thing happened to mine except I didn't even get 50 rounds out of it. The thing is junk IMO. It started shutting off while shooting. Like you, the first time I thought I accidently shut it off. I'd switch to my BUIS and after a couple more shots it would turn back on for a few shots.

The elevation adjustment sticks and grinds when trying to adjust. Makes Tasco seem like Aimpoint. I'm sending mine back for credit on Aimpoint or Meprolight. I had bought the Vortex just for breaking in new builds. I'd rather fork out more money for something that works. I've had several low end red dots in years past. All of the still work with never a problem.

3/28/2011 9:49:29 AM EDT
[#28]
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Just got mine from Midway for $180.00, this review was the reason I made my decision.


Well here is my update, I don't want to totally bash this optic because the price was decent.  BUT the dot is very blurry, it is very distorted thats my first grip.  I have not shot it yet and it is my first sub $400 dollar optic.  I will eventually put it on my GSG-5 i guess, not my original intentions.
3/28/2011 10:08:44 AM EDT
[#29]


Obviously if you purchase an optic like the Aimpoint Comp M3 that has been adopted by the US Army, the EOTech EXPS that has been recently adopted by SOCOM, the Trijicon ACOG that has been adopted by the USMC you're going to have an optic that performs to a very high level of quality and durability. Due to those companies having very large DOD contracts they've had great success with Law Enforcement and the money they raise allows them to do production here in the USA or Europe where quality is typically much higher. So you can expect a great deal in terms of consistent quality from those manufacturers.



I don't think Vortex attempts to compete directly with those companies for government contracts. They concentrate on the civilian market that is more geared toward recreational use and sporting use of firearms. They provide a lower cost alternative to the high-end mil contractors and I'm glad that Vortex and other companies have provided weapons for tactical or defensive use like the SPARC. They could have just stuck to making scopes for hunting and then there would be no alternative to the high cost optics, which frankly would just eliminate many civilians from being able to purchase a defensive optic. Would people be better with just iron sights if they are civilians who cannot afford high cost red dots and HWS? I don't think so. The advantage of a red dot is it allows you to concentrate on our target and acquire it faster, which is advantageous for HD work. I think folks who purchase the lower cost optics need to incorporate Irons with a cowitness to their red dot. That way the lower cost optic gives them the speed on target and if it goes down no big deal your irons are up.



As far as mounts go the American Defense mount for the Vortex SPARC seems pretty high quality to me.



A civilian needs to be able to afford gear that enhances his shooting not takes away from it. If a civilian can't afford ammo or a carbine course, because he's sunk so much into his high speed optics than that's a problem.  Civilians need to well round their equipment to fit their budget.
3/28/2011 10:17:14 AM EDT
[#30]
I would disagree as to their marketing. Vortex is very actively, and very aggressively pursuing the LE market with the optics, including both red dot sights. I have been to multiple SWAT comps, and they are always present, and always preaching the  benefits of their products over that of the obvious competitors. This is where I first saw the sight, and I fell for their claims.
4/11/2011 7:41:04 AM EDT
[#31]
Purchased a SPARC from 3RP last Wednesday afternoon had it Friday morning!

Shot with it on Saturday through girlfriends AR both of us were very happy with the results of this optic. Liked the weight of it and the dot was bright enough in full sun and still dim enough for night use through the house.

Thanks again for the review, if not I would have probably never bought one!
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