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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - TEOTWAWKI Rifle (pick one) (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 12/31/2010 8:00:00 PM EDT
| Which one and why? I left off the AR and AK so we can hear something different. Indulge me. |
| I voted AUG because an end of the world gun is one you are going to have to carry everywhere you go for the rest of your life. It doesn't have as many rust problems as a parkerized gun will have and the ammo is more compact than a .308. To be honest my SHTF gun isn't on your list but this was the best compromise I could see. |
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I chose the AUG. 16"+ ballistics in an SBR-sized package so it's very fast and manueverable in close quarters w/o sacrificing terminal effectiveness. Quick-change bbl & 42rd mag, remove the bbl from the receiver and the receiver from the stock and you have an easily-concealed package that assembles *very* quickly.
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FAL. Cheap parts, undeniably combat-proven, fits me well, acceptable accuracy, easy as crap to maintain, available ammo, and can digest a wide range of ammo..
Runner up is the MAS 49/56 for the same reasons except for ammo availability, although it can be found. |
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Mauser 98 in .308 set up with a scope, good peep sights, and synthetic stock.
accurate reliable common ammo battle proven design simple, w/few parts no magazine to loose can be made as light as 6 lbs. easily (w/o optics) Not having a rifle that necessitates having a chest rig with a dozen mags will make you more cautious and conservative when it comes to discharging your weapon. |
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None of the above. VZ58.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/stevo8904/IMG_1443Medium.jpg |
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Quoted: I voted AUG because an end of the world gun is one you are going to have to carry everywhere you go for the rest of your life. It doesn't have as many rust problems as a parkerized gun will have and the ammo is more compact than a .308. To be honest my SHTF gun isn't on your list but this was the best compromise I could see. +1... AUG handling = pure sex. |
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Mauser 98 in .308 set up with a scope, good peep sights, and synthetic stock. accurate reliable common ammo battle proven design simple, w/few parts no magazine to loose can be made as light as 6 lbs. easily (w/o optics) Not having a rifle that necessitates having a chest rig with a dozen mags will make you more cautious and conservative when it comes to discharging your weapon. +1 If I can't have that, I'd choose an accurate .22 rifle, so I can "acquire" a larger gun off a dead body. |
| Of the listed the FAL is going to last longest without needing maintenance items. Do you mean M1A literally or did you mean M14 clone? Did you mean HK91 literally or did you mean G3 clone? There's a difference. I'd choose a proper M14 clone over a FAL for TEOTWAWKI, but not an M1A. |
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i'd be perfectly fine with any of those EXCEPT the PS90 (caliber availability and fragile mags), the FN 49 (spare parts...), the FS2000 (just don't like the feel / ergos of them), or the sig 556 which i personally feel is one of the most poorly executed production rifles on the market today. ETA: if i had my druthers though, there'd be other guns i'd pick before any of those, and before an AK or an AR too. |
| I will be the odd man and say PS90...true ambi rifle...light and compact and able to shoot to 200 yards. I don't see having to shoot further in a true SHTF. Sure the other calibers pack more of a punch, but I like having more rounds in one mag = less mag changes. I also think if you are prepping, you should have enough ammo/mags to last you. If I must search for mags/ammo after SHTF, I didn't prep very well. |
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Decided on the AUG since the MSAR version can be converted between 3 useful calibers, 7.62x39, 5.56 and soon 5.45x39. 6.8spc is OK, but pure unobtanium in TEOTWAWKI. I'd scrounge a 308 bolt gun as all the semi versions are lead bricks. converted between cals??????? in your dreams maybe. we were told this would come to be but won't. 308 battle rifles may be heavier than your ar but over 400yards on a windy day? i'll keep my hk91 |
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Decided on the AUG since the MSAR version can be converted between 3 useful calibers, 7.62x39, 5.56 and soon 5.45x39. 6.8spc is OK, but pure unobtanium in TEOTWAWKI. I'd scrounge a 308 bolt gun as all the semi versions are lead bricks. converted between cals??????? in your dreams maybe. we were told this would come to be but won't. 308 battle rifles may be heavier than your ar but over 400yards on a windy day? i'll keep my hk91 I said SCAR but I'd take an AR too. I don't know why when SHTF you'd ever be shooting over 200yds much less 400. I'd be keeping a low profile not taking pot shots at bad guys. |
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I'm sure we all have different ideas of what TEOTW entails, however I don't feel the 5.7mm would be adequate to harvest a whitetail deer. 5.7x28mm has taken deer People have taken deer with a .22lr as well, however I'd want to drop a deer rather than track a wounded one in a SHTF scenario. |
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The way he explained it it sounded like he meant that it could not take a white tail deer. Hunting in general is typically frowned upon for PAW survival anyhow so it shouldn't factor that heavily on choosing a cartridge.
For the OP. In the PAW, if I'm not at my BIL and I'm seen by anyone at all, I want to look like a lost college kid with a backpack if I'm not at my BIL. So to be able to conceal my rifle in a small backpack, have it under 6lbs with no batteries, shoot accurately to 150yds, share ammo with my handgun and carry lots of it are important features that the Px90 affords me. It's not for everyone but I trust my PS90 and FiveseveN with my life. |
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Nice. Who makes that pistol grip? |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - TEOTWAWKI Rifle (pick one) (Page 1 of 2)
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