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Posted: 6/14/2010 5:53:55 AM EDT
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to post, but I though it could go here since it is technically a rifle, but also a pistol.
Also forgive me if there is a topic already for these, but the search engine didnt help me any. Anybody have experience with these? http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct883.aspx I was looking at one yesterday at a gun show and it sure looks cool! It was a lot heavier and beefier metal than I thought it would be and seemed very well built. The folding stock is welded shut using two tiny welds at the hinge. I dont know all that much about the hassle of getting an SBR stamp, but this gun seems to be a very good candidate. I was looking for ak's at the show, but I may get this instead. It was $360 and ammo is dirt cheap. One problem I realized though, is it takes more than 31 rounds, which I'm pretty sure isnt legal here in Ohio. (or maybe it is just illegal to load over 31 rounds?) so comparing it to the ak Pros cheap (gun itself) cheap ammo compact beefy Cons 200 dollars and the SBR process to go though if you want a rifle heavy pistol high cap mag issues? any thoughts??????? |
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For Ohio, no, you would have to modify the magazines, not just not load. Essentially, the rule is putting it in the magazine well, so if it were empty and you put it in, then it would become dangerous ordinance. You could either cut the magazines and rebend the ledges for the floorplate, weld something on the inside, or make the follower longer so it will not hold as many (though will it be too long with the curvature etc...). The goal would be to have something "not easily modifiable". But that term is subjective, but for hunting, (as more food for thought) some people put simple blocks in magazines that hold more than 3 or whatever the limit is and some wardens say ok...but would that pass muster on a non-hunting or in court?
If it weren't for that ordinance, such awesome things such as the Soumi, KP-44s, PPshs, Sterlings, Stens, HK33s with 40s, AK drums (yes they are for sale and you can own, but you can't lawfully use) etc... would have found a new home long ago, but alas nope. If you can find a solution to that ordinance, it would be an awesome, affordable and enviable, range toy. Edit, forgot to add that SBR trumps dangerous ordinance so mags would be ok. |
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For Ohio, no, you would have to modify the magazines, not just not load. Essentially, the rule is putting it in the magazine well, so if it were empty and you put it in, then it would become dangerous ordinance. You could either cut the magazines and rebend the ledges for the floorplate, weld something on the inside, or make the follower longer so it will not hold as many (though will it be too long with the curvature etc...). The goal would be to have something "not easily modifiable". But that term is subjective, but for hunting, (as more food for thought) some people put simple blocks in magazines that hold more than 3 or whatever the limit is and some wardens say ok...but would that pass muster on a non-hunting or in court? If it weren't for that ordinance, such awesome things such as the Soumi, KP-44s, PPshs, Sterlings, Stens, HK33s with 40s, AK drums (yes they are for sale and you can own, but you can't lawfully use) etc... would have found a new home long ago, but alas nope. If you can find a solution to that ordinance, it would be an awesome, affordable and enviable, range toy. Edit, forgot to add that SBR trumps dangerous ordinance so mags would be ok. I'm *so* glad to see it's not just WA with stupid "you can own, but you can't use" laws... |
| Ok, so if I bought it, I would have to modify the mags. Could someone please link me to an official "ohio mag limit" page or something? I've looked for one and haven't found anything. Someone on another forum said 37, but I read something that said over 31. I bet most people dont even know there is a limit.. So I guess having to modify the mag to be legal would be a con then. |
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thanks for the link. it dosent sound to hard to make the follower longer, or block the mag in general down to 31 rounds. Or even chopping it down might look good a bit shorter. I turn 21 in November. If I can get a job I may just get both an ak, and one of these guys. |
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For Ohio, no, you would have to modify the magazines, not just not load. Essentially, the rule is putting it in the magazine well, so if it were empty and you put it in, then it would become dangerous ordinance. You could either cut the magazines and rebend the ledges for the floorplate, weld something on the inside, or make the follower longer so it will not hold as many (though will it be too long with the curvature etc...). The goal would be to have something "not easily modifiable". But that term is subjective, but for hunting, (as more food for thought) some people put simple blocks in magazines that hold more than 3 or whatever the limit is and some wardens say ok...but would that pass muster on a non-hunting or in court? If it weren't for that ordinance, such awesome things such as the Soumi, KP-44s, PPshs, Sterlings, Stens, HK33s with 40s, AK drums (yes they are for sale and you can own, but you can't lawfully use) etc... would have found a new home long ago, but alas nope. If you can find a solution to that ordinance, it would be an awesome, affordable and enviable, range toy. Edit, forgot to add that SBR trumps dangerous ordinance so mags would be ok. I'm *so* glad to see it's not just WA with stupid "you can own, but you can't use" laws... I feel your pain brother 
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avoid them I had one...shot 2 rounds and returned it. It was dangerous. These guns were modified to become legal in such a way that they made some extreme changes. Yeah, they cant fire from an open bolt. Pretty big change in function.... Its a shame that all these parts kits coming in cant be restored to their original glory. History down the drain.... 
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thanks for the link. it dosent sound to hard to make the follower longer, or block the mag in general down to 31 rounds. Or even chopping it down might look good a bit shorter. I turn 21 in November. If I can get a job I may just get both an ak, and one of these guys. mag can only hold 30. the 31 comes from 30 in the mag + 1 in the chamber. |
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