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5/19/2010 8:57:39 AM EDT
Im about 90% sure I forever glued my Mosin 91/30 receiver to the stock.....
Bought the gun last week as a cheap project gun to try some new things on. Stripped the stock cleaned everything and attempted to bed it.
I picked up some JB weld from homedepot and kiwi neutral shoe polish from walmat along with blue painters tape. Took a chisel to the inside of the stock to remove 1/8" of wood to give the epoxy a place to sit. Bedded about 1.5" near the end of the forearm, and then from the forward most part of the rear sight all the way to the magazine well skipping the hole for the recoil lug. I also bedded the rear tang where the rear action screw inserts. I got childrens putty from hobby lobby and filled the action screw holes an the slot in the barrel channel where you can see down to where the cleaning rod is stored. I did this after dinner last night and went to check it this morning (about 18hrs later) and it was rock solid. I'm not really sure what I did wrong but this was supposed to boost my confidence so I could bed my Browning and rem 700 after I got back from Airborne school next month. didnt really work as i envisioned.
Pics to follow after work.
Any advice (besides that I shouldnt try to bed my other guns?)
5/19/2010 9:38:05 AM EDT
[#1]
Did you try using the shoe polish as a release agent, or as a marker to determine where to relieve the stock?  

A better release agent is Paste wax.  You need about two coats and make sure that any recesses are filled with putty/modeling clay to avoid a mechanical lock.

If you used enough shoe polish, you should be able to get the action out of the stock.  Place a folded towel on a solid bench or even the floor.  Drop the rifle repeatedly upside-down so that the buttstock lands on the towel relatively hard.  Have your hand under the action as the rifle is dropped.  Alternatively, you can use a dead blow hammer in much the same way.  You will beat on the stock upside down to use gravity and the inertial of the action to allow the stock to come free.

If that does not work, then try putting the whole thing in a freezer (if you have a big enough of one).  When you take it out, you should be able to get the stock loose from the action by using the above method.  Warning, the cold metal will form condensation and will need to be dried soon afterward to avoid rusting.  If the freezer trick fails, then you probably created a mechanical lock somewhere by not having a recess filled properly, or you did not have a release agent.
5/19/2010 11:52:33 AM EDT
[#2]
I am assuming it is not completely locked in place, as you made an effort to prevent that from happening.  What about shooting the rifle?  I bet the recoil would break loose the place where you locked it in.  At least you can't hurt it by shooting it.
5/19/2010 4:31:23 PM EDT
[#3]
Try the freezer trick. After all, it is Russian. A little cold won't hurt it.

It may seem really stuck, but chances are that it's only stuck at a small spot.
5/20/2010 7:03:20 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Try the freezer trick. After all, it is Russian. A little cold won't hurt it.

It may seem really stuck, but chances are that it's only stuck at a small spot.


i frickin hope so!
5/20/2010 11:30:46 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Place a folded towel on a solid bench or even the floor.  Drop the rifle repeatedly upside-down so that the buttstock lands on the towel relatively hard.  Have your hand under the action as the rifle is dropped.


FIXED IT!!!
took it on the concrete patio and dropped it about 2 dozen times.
I hear a big crack and my roommate says "that didnt sound good"
it basically fell into my hand after that.
thanks for the advice guy!
Im not sure I'm ready to bed my 700 or browning but im on my way
5/20/2010 2:00:26 PM EDT
[#6]
If you do another boltie, shoe polish is def. the wrong release agent, I've never heard of that! Car wax is much more better.
5/20/2010 7:29:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Glad you got it broke loose!  Use a accragel kit from brownells next time.  It comes with a release agent, bedding compound, dyes, and a good set of instructions.
5/20/2010 8:24:51 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Glad you got it broke loose!  Use a accragel kit from brownells next time.  It comes with a release agent, bedding compound, dyes, and a good set of instructions.


sportsmans warehouse only sells acraglass. wonder if its a kit like what you describe.
Everything I have heard says kiwi neutral shoe polish is the shit when it comes to release agent!
how do i get pefect lines like this guy? richard something or another. especially where the bedding is in the barrel channel? Im too drunk ti find my camera to upload pics but mine seeped a lottle further down the barrel channel and isnt that smooth straight line. mine lookslike complete shit but nothing moves AT ALL! i think im happy. im not sure i removed enough of the stock (dont think the bedding is thick enough) but its good.
i never shot it before i did mods so i have no benchmark to measure from but whatevs.i shimmed the trigger with a sheet af aluminum from a mnt dew can. seems to be a LOOOOT btter. my first trigger mod on a gun (besides a installing a new hamme and sear in a 10/22) and my first attempt at bedding a rifle - not a total disaster i guess. im kinda proud of myself
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