Armory Sponsor
Posted: 7/2/2009 9:31:06 AM EDT
I have a 4X Nikon without a home and I have decided it should mount to a 45-70. Now should it be a No.1 or a Marlin levergun, what say you arfcom What's it going to be used for - ehh, who knows.
|
|
Fuck the lever gun, go for the big leagues with a:
TC Contender 12" Pistol in 45-70 This one is a 14" but i still say 12" 
Video |
|
The Marlin 1895 series is very practical, accurate, and fun. It's also one of the stronger actions, so you can cook up some hot rounds to extend the range and power.
I don't have a Ruger #1, but I've heard they are quite nice rifles. It's the strongest action available for a 45-70 rifle, so it can support the hottest loads you can make for the cartridge, getting it close to .458 Win mag, (I think). If I was hunting for big game, I'd take the #1. But for everyday shooting, the 1895 is a great choice (and what I went with). |
|
Quoted:
Fuck the lever gun, go for the big leagues with a: TC Contender 12" Pistol in 45-70 This one is a 14" but i still say 12" http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/26757.jpg Video I have a substantial Encore collection (and not interested in getting in to 'Tenders - OMG that would just start the cycle all over again!  ) so I'm looking for something else this time.
|
|
got an 1895 marlin, damn good rifle. Big difference between my b.p. and equivalent hardcast 405 gr. loads and my 400 gr. Jacketed as far as p.o.i. goes . I gave up on the 300 grainers, at 2350 f.p.s., no use for them, I go for 405 gr. hardcast for deer at around 1300 f.p.s. or 400 grainers chrono'd at 1980 average for moose and bear.
I use the factory buckhorn rears for the cast, and replace the peep sight on the reciever and fold the rear leaf down when Im shooting my preffered jacketed load. I dont bother with a scope, no point at the ranges I hunt with this setup and Im begging to get scope-eye with the 400 grain load, its pretty uncomfortable unless I shoot it offhand, forget off the bench or prone for more than a few rounds NOT enjoyable |
|
There are several good options for scoped 45-70's
You have already mentioned the 1895 Marlin. The XLR version would do very good. Half tube mag, stainless metal, rubber butpad and laminated wood...with a 24 in barrel for a tad bit more velocity. 45-70 works good from short barrels but MUCH better from longer ones. If you're on a budget, another good option is the H&R Buffalo classic. While not as fancy as a Ruger #1, they can be scoped fairly easy and have a substantial 28 inch barrel. The overall length is short due to the single shot action. Other 45-70's include Browning/winchester 1886's...though scoping may be a pain Sharps...same scope problem Rolling Blocks...see above Falling block hi-wall browinings - I believe the most recent production run was tapped for mounts, but I am not sure. |
|
Quoted:
Marlin. Do yourself a favor, the .45-70 is much better suited to a lever action than a Ruger No.1. Don't know where you get that from. The .45-70 is an excellent cartridge for single shot rifles, and the No.1 is a fine single shot rifle. However, as he is only looking for a rifle to put under a somewhat basic scope model, a Marlin or H&R should work fine. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Marlin. Do yourself a favor, the .45-70 is much better suited to a lever action than a Ruger No.1. Don't know where you get that from. The .45-70 is an excellent cartridge for single shot rifles, and the No.1 is a fine single shot rifle. However, as he is only looking for a rifle to put under a somewhat basic scope model, a Marlin or H&R should work fine. Well, it's an opinion. Clearly it's been a main stay fo single shot rifles for over a century now. But in my mind, it's better suited for a lever action in that, most .45-70 shooters aren't lobbing rounds great distances like a buffalo hunter of yore may have done. Does that make sense? Anyhow, at the end of the day, it's just my opinion. |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Marlin. Do yourself a favor, the .45-70 is much better suited to a lever action than a Ruger No.1. Don't know where you get that from. The .45-70 is an excellent cartridge for single shot rifles, and the No.1 is a fine single shot rifle. However, as he is only looking for a rifle to put under a somewhat basic scope model, a Marlin or H&R should work fine. Well, it's an opinion. Clearly it's been a main stay fo single shot rifles for over a century now. But in my mind, it's better suited for a lever action in that, most .45-70 shooters aren't lobbing rounds great distances like a buffalo hunter of yore may have done. Does that make sense? Anyhow, at the end of the day, it's just my opinion. So now what you are trying to say, is that Marlin 1895's aren't very accurate and you shouldn't worry about being able to hit at any great distance with one. You should be ashamed for insulting a good rifle. 
|
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Marlin. Do yourself a favor, the .45-70 is much better suited to a lever action than a Ruger No.1. Don't know where you get that from. The .45-70 is an excellent cartridge for single shot rifles, and the No.1 is a fine single shot rifle. However, as he is only looking for a rifle to put under a somewhat basic scope model, a Marlin or H&R should work fine. Well, it's an opinion. Clearly it's been a main stay fo single shot rifles for over a century now. But in my mind, it's better suited for a lever action in that, most .45-70 shooters aren't lobbing rounds great distances like a buffalo hunter of yore may have done. Does that make sense? Anyhow, at the end of the day, it's just my opinion. So now what you are trying to say, is that Marlin 1895's aren't very accurate and you shouldn't worry about being able to hit at any great distance with one. You should be ashamed for insulting a good rifle. Mine: 
|
|
You've shown me yours, I guess I'll show you mine. 
The main point being that rifles like these aren't approached with the attitude " I've got a cheap scope, what should I put it on?". |
|
Quoted:
The main point being that rifles like these aren't approached with the attitude " I've got a cheap scope, what should I put it on?". I agree 100%. I approach mine from the stand point :here's what I want to do, what the most efficient and interesting way to accomplish that. This standpoint also explains why I don't have on "stock" gun in my safe. ETA: My point in posting the rifle was to show that I'm actually a huge fan of the Marlin. That was all. 
|
|
Grizzly Custom Big Lewie? Beautiful Marlin. For the OP: http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp |
|
Quoted:
Grizzly Custom Big Lewie? Beautiful Marlin. For the OP: http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp Correct. Thanks. |
|
45/70 is a hoot .
Marlin guide,marlin full size,original or repro trapdoor, Ruger #1 or even a H+R Handi rifle––––all good stuff for different budgets and uses. I see that lots of folks put scopes on lever guns but I feel that for most uses a good set of peep sights are really the best setup. The shape of the stock on most lever guns just don't line up right for a scope. You would be surprised what a good peep will let you hit |
|
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Marlin. Do yourself a favor, the .45-70 is much better suited to a lever action than a Ruger No.1. Don't know where you get that from. The .45-70 is an excellent cartridge for single shot rifles, and the No.1 is a fine single shot rifle. However, as he is only looking for a rifle to put under a somewhat basic scope model, a Marlin or H&R should work fine. Well, it's an opinion. Clearly it's been a main stay fo single shot rifles for over a century now. But in my mind, it's better suited for a lever action in that, most .45-70 shooters aren't lobbing rounds great distances like a buffalo hunter of yore may have done. Does that make sense? Anyhow, at the end of the day, it's just my opinion. So now what you are trying to say, is that Marlin 1895's aren't very accurate and you shouldn't worry about being able to hit at any great distance with one. You should be ashamed for insulting a good rifle. Mine: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/THellURider/DSC_0151.jpg
That is one bad ass Marlin Details please? |
|
Quoted:
That is one bad ass Marlin Details please? Thanks. It is one of these though it used to be called a Big Lewie, now they call it a Brush Hawg. (I liked "Big Lewie" better.  )
|
Armory Sponsor