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Posted: 4/16/2009 8:47:06 PM EDT
| This sunday will mark my 25th year on this planet. I've always been interested in firearms, but have only started to seriously consider buying one. Since mid last year, I've been looking around, reading and wondering what I should get. In my quest, I've seen the prices from several years back from posts on various forums and man, have they go up. Since the last election, sales have increased quite a bit. In doing so, the new demand has put a strain on the manufacturers to keep up. I'm sure everyone knows this by now, but what I wonder, how far off do you think a saturation point is. This isn't going to last forever, but how far off in the future do you think this? |
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I don't think it can last much longer, honestly. But for myself, I'm not sure when I'll reach MY saturation point!
I'm actually starting to see a lot of the prices come down, not in gun stores or at gun shows mind you, but on forums and Gunbroker. You've always been interested in firearms, but you haven't picked one up yet? And you're 25!? Come on man, you're way behind! I'm 27 and have been collecting since I was 21, when I bought my first pistol. A Glock 21. I sold off some of my collection last year (before the big O hit), and should have waited. I lost out on A LOT of profit. I never thought a Dem would win the election. (WHY DID I SELL MY NIB HK94?????? WHY!!!????)Well, now that things are they way they are (and a dark cloud of AW bannage far away in the east), the collection is starting to pick back up again. I've got 10 fine weapons, and I'm a lowly college student. That was my point in selling off a piece of the collection, for tuition  .
GET YOUR ASS IN GEAR AND PICK SOMETHING UP!!! A .22 isn't very expensive at all, so you have no excuses!!! GO! |
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Somewhere in the back of my mind I agree with arty... The political and social situation going on right now is not good. I may be naive, but I'm trying to remain optimistic about it. This country is really splitting in half.
On one hand, we have the democrats, and Obama nuts, who are definitely socialists. They want America to go the way of Europe, with very restrictive laws, big governments, high taxes, and huge welfare and social programs. That's just how they want society to be. They think it would be better that way. I disagree. Then we have those who identify more with being an American in the traditional sense. Being an American is a very different concept than what the rest of the world is familiar with. We identify with living in a free, but civilized society, as envisioned by our Founding Fathers, who embodied their legacy for future generations, in a Constitution and Bill of RIghts. We look back at those men and are inspired by them. Democrats have forgotten that past, and what it stands for. |
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I think it all depends on a number of factors.
Econamy, Legislation (awb), etc.... The more BS that comes out of this administration the more most folks get worried. I believe the mass buying of arms and ammo are what is really flipping-out the administration, not the tea parties. Know your history, this has happend before. 
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it sure doesn't seem to be slowing down.
Right when I got into shooting Wolf was $99/1000 of 7.62 and $109/1000 of .223. Parts kits and everything else would ship in a few days. Now any ammo, AT ALL, is almost impossible to find. Wolf is $300+/1000. LPKs are selling of $100. It's nuts. At least I have some stuff. Getting into shooting now would suck. This has got to be the worst time, possibly ever. But maybe someone older than me can remember a worse time. I'm too young to have been affected by the 1994 ban, but I would imangine with the internet, things are alot worse now. |
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I think it all depends on a number of factors. Econamy, Legislation (awb), etc.... The more BS that comes out of this administration the more most folks get worried. I believe the mass buying of arms and ammo are what is really flipping-out the administration, not the tea parties. Know your history, this has happend before. Agreed. I think as long as worried people can buy, they will. In this climate of economic uncertainty as well as real or perceived potential government tyranny, there really isn't a saturation point.....at least for me. Sean |
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You've always been interested in firearms, but you haven't picked one up yet? And you're 25!? Come on man, you're way behind! I'm 27 and have been collecting since I was 21, when I bought my first pistol. A Glock 21. Oh you youngsters 
I'm 40, and I'll use this to 'inspire' you  
thats only the EBR half of the collection 
now go buy something  you got to play catch-up
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"This Sunday will mark my 25th year on this planet. I've always been interested in firearms, but have only seriously started to consider buying one. ... ,how far off do you think the saturation point is? This isn't going to last forever. but how far of in the future do you think this?"
The number of guns produced and sold in the US each year is pretty small compared to most other consumer products. They are relatively complicated to make (compared to most of the plastic crap Americans buy) and therefore production is relatively in-elastic. That said, I think there will be a shortage as long as people like you want to buy a gun. Why didn't you buy a rifle when you were 18 or an EBR in 2004 when the AWB expired? You didn't because guns were neat, but you had other more important things to spend your money on (like beer, cars & women). The shortage will end either when people (like you) are no longer worried the government will outlaw guns and therefore no longer feel a pressing need to buy one. Or when the government has outlawed them and they are no longer available. Your guess is as good as mine. Do you think the government will convince the public they are not interested in outlawing guns? Or do you think they will succeed in outlawing them? Until one or the other happens, demand will continue to out pace production. |
1st off, happy birthday! mine is also this sunday the 19th.  
and 2nd (the most important) BUY A GUN!!! then ammo and then go learn how to use it! I say start with a mosin nagant. 91/30 or M-44 is up to u. I say M44. the gun and ammo is cheap and easy to use. it will get you started. moussers and enfeilds are also good choices. then look into a semi-auto rifle. there are a good many option for you to look at. Ar-15 AK-47 or 74 M1A FAL CEMTE / PTR-91 type rifles AR-10 are all great weapons. things to think about are initial cost of the gun, cost of setting up your rifle how you like it/how you intend to use it, cost of mags and ammo, availability of ammo/mags/spar parts. some other good one to think about are M1 garand, M1 carbine, SKS (if desperate). you can also start with a hand gun if you like. good luck getting started and have fun. as for the saturation thing, I think we have at least a year of this left. probably more. not sure why, just my instinct. |
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My money is on a slowdown by the end of summer, beginning of fall. Provided no legislation is introduced.
The real problem is that everyone has gone off the deep end of paranoia. The rumor mill is in overheat-meltdown mode spewing out random bullshit across teh interwebz, in stores, and on porches across the nation. Approximately 95% of people have absolutely no clue what the hell is actually going on, and so the hysteria continues unabated. Personally, I'd really like it if people would calm the fuck down and stop the hyperventilating. From a business perspective, the boom helps secure my job, but from a personal view the panic spree has seriously pissed me off. Stuff like the ACR and the milled AKs aren't being made because everyone is running around snapping up M4s and WASRs. Ammo is impossible to find because everyone and their brother has decided to invest in half a dozen cases of 9mm for the Hi-Point they keep under the mattress. The industry is run ragged, innovation has taken a backseat to "staying on top of the insanity", and availability has gone to shit for everything. From the perspective of a consumer, this is a horrible, horrible era. |
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Agree with Wes. As someone who was into black rifles during the original ban and the Clinton administration, I have seen it all before. The political situation was much worse during the 90's, really almost completely hopeless actually, it was just a matter of time until everything was banned. Then Bush got elected, then the ban sunset, and everything was all roses again, well until the surplus ammo started to dry up. But there were ammo and primer shortages during the 80's and early 90's as well. There were firearm and ammo shortages during the late 90's due to the Y2K scare and the looming bans in CA. I can remember so many instances of inner turmoil and panic over what gun legislation would pass next. In the end, I realized it was I the fool, I was the one that swallowed hook, line and sinker all the doomsday predictions from the NRA, GOA, etc. That's not to say there were not some close calls after Columbine. But gun owners writing letters and calling their elected reps put a stop to it, when all of the media and much of public opinion was against us.
So to sum it all up, this too shall pass. I was talking to a FFL friend of mine a couple days ago and he said that the shortage on black rifles was already over. There were still major shortages on ammo, though. But that will catch up too. People got to eat and pay the bills. People will also eventually wise up and realize that the sky is not falling either. |
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