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Posted: 3/21/2009 6:30:33 PM EDT
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Is there a more "american" cartridge out there? Every time i ask myself "i were to buy another rifle, what would it be?" For some reason i always think about the ol' 30-30. I dont know why, whether it be in lever action or single shot (or any other action its offered in) i just want a 30-30.
So, anyone have an opinion on the classic 30-30win? |
| I just took out my Marlin 336 SS the other day for the first time. Aside from a desperate need to put a better pad on the stock, I am in love. Not that the recoil was horrible, but after 25 or so rounds, it starts to get to you. I'm thinking about taking it to get chopped to 16.25" and putting some ghost ring sights on it, but it is definitely a keeper! |
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30/06. Not quite as old as the 30/30 but the 06 has much more history associated with it, and the 06 is more versatile. The .30/06s case is based on the GERMAN 7.92x57mm, same case head dimensions. .30-30 = ALL AMERICAN There are dozens of cartridges out there that have the "similar" case head dimensions. The 30/06 is not based on the 7.92x57mm because the 7.92x57mm is a shorter cartridge, and the case head dimensions are close but not the same, so that doesn't make it the parent case for the 30/06. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-06_Springfield http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8x57mm_IS Also the 30/30 is really only 8 years older than the 30/06 since the 30/03 came out in 1903 & the 06 is a slightly modified 03. The 30/30 never fought in the world wars or any of the other wars/incidents since the early 1900's. Nor was it chambered in more "classic" American firearms (military & civilian) as the 06. The 30/06 has been successful in every major rifle action type, including the lever action. The 30/30 has not, although it is the classic lever action cartridge. So the original question was "Is there a more "american" cartridge out there?" While the poster likes the 30/30 the real answer is the 30/06. Then again one could think about the .22lr. I have a 30/30 (pre-64 Model 94) and like it but I'll grab an 30/06 as the classic All-American cartridge. |
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More American....yes....the 10 gauge is what won the West. Just about every stagecoach had one in a side by side.
Of course, only Browning seems to be making them anymore as Remington just discontinued making the SP10 (and the cartridge size has evolved over the years because of waterfowl hunters). |
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The .30-30 Winchester is an excellent round. It has probably been the round that more whitetail deer have been killed with than any other. It is:
* low pressure * accurate * versaile * easy to reload * inexpensive * readily available It's also available in one of the greatest rifles ever made, the Marlin 336. Git you some. |
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I just took out my Marlin 336 SS the other day for the first time. Aside from a desperate need to put a better pad on the stock, I am in love. Not that the recoil was horrible, but after 25 or so rounds, it starts to get to you. I'm thinking about taking it to get chopped to 16.25" and putting some ghost ring sights on it, but it is definitely a keeper! Although the 30/30 is relatively tame the guns themselves are fairly light and therefore can slap you pretty good if shot off the bench at the range. Although the gost ring sights have some use I prefer a peep rear such as the lyman . Surpriseingly accurate and you have the option of removeing the apeture and just looking through the "ring" . This is a old school hunters trick for lower light conditions. I like the length and ballance of the 30-30 'as is" but this would be your choice. The 30-30 makes a fine cast bullet gun also. |
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There are dozens of cartridges out there that have the "similar" case head dimensions. The 30/06 is not based on the 7.92x57mm because the 7.92x57mm is a shorter cartridge, and the case head dimensions are close but not the same, so that doesn't make it the parent case for the 30/06. No. The 7.9x57 is indeed the parent case for the .30-03 and subsequently, the .30-06. The case head dimensions are the same. US Army Ordnance lengthened the 7.9x57 case to make the .30 M1903, then when the 150 grain spitzer bullet was adopted by the US, the case neck was slightly shortened to make .30-06. |
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