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Posted: 2/26/2008 9:00:25 PM EDT
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I was watching this video of the Keltec RFB www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCVb55UxYbU I noticed all the brass coming out of the front. Some rolling off the barrel. Probally a stupid question but do you think it is possible that by some chance you could shoot the brass coming out? And what would happen if you did? |
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i can't wait for this thing. +1 on a fuckin' sweet rifleheadbang.gif -this is echo-5, out. |
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According to the Kel-Tec rep I talked to at the SHOT show they should be out 'around mid fourth quarter this year', and would be priced starting at 'around $2,000, but we're working to see if we can lower that, especially with the 18" model'. I was really impressed by it,I'm not going to be the first person to buy one but if their accuracy predictions hold up, I'm going to be all over that. |
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2 thoughts come to mind for me watching that video; 1. Is it my eyes, or is there a goood chance for one to get his fingers in the op rod (?) on that fore end? It looks like it would grab you if you let your fingers wander up a bit. 2. Looks like a reloaders dream to me!! Just put a rubbermaid tub or trash can on the ground in front of you and catch all your brass!! Wonderful. Sign me up for a free beta tester......I'm excited.| Doc |
According to Kel-Tec, it's really unlikely. The brass actually goes off to the right slightly, so you'd have to A: be turning sharply while firing, and B: get the timing *just* perfect. I'd say the odds are about the same as having a normal rifle eject, brass hits a nearby object, and bounces back in front of the muzzle as the next round is fired.
I never had a problem with that while firing it..I suppose anything is possible, but I suspect you'd have to try really hard to manage it.
You quite literally could. IIRC, off of the bench brass tended to land within a foot-wide or so circle on the ground.
If mud or dirt gets in there, the action itself would act to clear it with the empty brass in the tube (with the same force as a round being chambered). Yeah, you probably could manage to plug it up and cause a stoppage...but I'd imagine that to do so you'd have to dig the front end DEEP into the ground. In which case I wouldn't be concerned about the ejection...I'd be more worried about plugging the barrel. And when has that ever been a concern on a rifle? |
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Is there someplace with a lot of info on the Kel-Tec RFB? I'd like to learn more about this rifle and feel like there really hasn't been a lot posted on AR15.com about it yet. Has anyone reviewed the rifle and/or printed an article on it yet? Kind of hungry for information on the RFB. |
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probably the best 308 I got to play with at shot show.....extremely tight and compact, mags used are for the FAL(cheap and plentiful) shot 07 the mags rocked in....show in 08 Keltec listened to the people and now they are drop free......trigger was AMAZING $2000 is definately to high.....I want one bad but I wont spend that much on a Keltec...sorry(hope your listening to the people again boys) |
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There's talk that street price might be closer to $1500, but it all remains to be seen. It's comparable to a DSA or an M1A, both of which run in the same price range. And people buy PS-90s and FS-2000s all the time, both of which are running up into the same area. All I can say is, if I could, I'd buy one tomorrow for $3,000. |
Yes, they are listening and the project has now been shelved, they will be releasing an econimically priced .22 instead, enjoy. |
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I would gladly be more inclined to pay $2000 on a FN anything.....there is no comparison between a FN and a Keltec NONE......that being said Keltec needs to prove themselves with this rifle first, they dont necessarily have the best name in the industry and I sure as hell wont pay $2000 on a first production 308 rifle from them if it is a home run(and dont get me wrong I really dig the rifle) then I would be more inclined to spend that money as they would have a proven track record....but as of now, how many keltecs are jam o matics? I am not willing to spend $2000 to own one either |
+1 thats how i feel too, that being said this does not look like their standard fair. |
If you believe the quality to be suspect, then you shouldn't buy it at any price, I recently had a friend offer to sell me his Olympic Arms AR for $400. I said no thanks because they make crap guns, not for $400, not for $300, not even with green eggs and ham. Therefore price is irrelevent. I am so tired of the whole, "it's too expensive because it's a Keltec" speech, well, OK, by that logic the Viper is a big steaming turd because in the past Dodge made some trully crappy cars. I also love when people say "If we complain about the price enough they will lower it", um, no, if I were Keltec I would say "wow, everyone says it's too expensive so they probably won't sell well, lets just keep making the stuff we do now and say to hell with the massive production costs for a rifle that won't sell". 'Nuff said. |
The RFB HAS NOT been shelved. The .22 models are coming out first, that's all.
Sorry, but I've shot both FN bullpups, as well as the RFB. If anything, I'd say the standard of construction of the Kel-Tec is equal to or greater than that of the FN's. The FS2000 has horrible ergonomics, and is largely polymer. The Kel-Tec has amazing ergos, and is primarily alloy. The primary difference is that FNH has a much larger advertising budget. There won't be any SCARs available for at least the better part of a year, and yet FNH has advertised the crap out of them in every medium known to man. Kel-Tec doesn't even have the RFB listed on their site yet. Advertising budget /= quality level. |
I am sitting here rolling with laughter. I meant that as sarcasm, I didn't even know there were .22's coming out! In hindsight, I should have included a "s/c" at the end, but I forgot. Sorry to all who thought I was serious. |
Take into account that Kel-Tecs usually go for about 25% less than the MSRP and that makes it a $1500 - 2300 rifle. Pricey for a KT, but worth it? maybe.... |
2K??? It's a Kel-Tec. I was hoping for more like $399  It is said to be of very high quality and they are certainly a stand up company as well.
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IF I buy another "black rifle" this will probably be it.
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