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Posted: 12/2/2007 9:03:06 AM EDT
Has anyone in this forum had or heard of a theft of or from their gun vault? I own a vault and not even my wife knows the combo, it is in my house not the garage and it is bolted down! I have heard of people going to other extremes like gun powder/reloading components being stored in a gun safe for the thief’s enjoyment "KABOOM" when they try a burning bar or torch to get it open, at least that is what I have heard as booby traps are illegal...... Hey if I can't have it no one will.
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My BIL on Texas tells a story of a friend of his who had a safe bolted down next to an outside wall. The thieves punched holes through the wall on either side, ran some logging chain around it, and snatched it through the wall with a truck. My safe is not on an outside wall. |
| I have seen a safe ripped out of a house by a logging chain and truck. It was hidden under the stairwell in the house. Took the stairs and the front door out, and left a nice trail through the grass and down the street. Just remember, where there is a will there is a way. |
A very similar story was posted here sometime within the last six months. My idea for the future is to have some sort of hidden gun room with a disguised entrance built into my next house, and leave my current safe somewhere as a decoy, maybe weighed down with sandbags inside or something. |
an easily constructed water charge will stove in that door. The concrete could also be breached, but that takes a little more kaboomite and may attract too much attention. |
I doubt it...almost 4 inches of solid steel. Not your average door. |
There is a safe maker locally that said he could put cannon fuse with a dead lock inside the door. If someone tried to torch/cut through the door the fuse would light and drop the bar in place locking the door permanently. Then Mr. SafeMaker would come out drill a hole in the location he knew put his little bar in there and pop the dead lock out of the way. I'm not sure if that is considered a booby trap or if that is even legal... And then, it wouldn't stop everyone... I need to figure a way to trigger a second alarm once the cannon fuse goes off. Since they probably bypassed the first one. 
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If a guy is cutting through the door with a torch a dead lock is'nt going to do any good. He'll just cut a hole in the door (or top, more likely) and pull the contents out. |
A water charge? Who the hell do you think is gonna be robbing you? The crew from the Italian Job? Most burglaries are smash and grab affairs. Knock on the door to see if anyone is home, bust in, go for the valuables like cash, jewelry, and unsecured high dollar items (guns, electronics), then boogie. |
The only way someone is going to show up to your house equipped to deal with a vault or safe is if they know you posses something worth protecting in such a way and have such protection. a decent firesafe + a small amount of discretion it all the protection you need. |
I don't agree... "Decent firesafes" are commonly stolen and no matter how discrete you like to be about your weapons people will know. You run into people all the time that know you are into firearms through going to the range, work, local shop, etc... |
Yea, sorry I cut you off that day... did not mean for both of us to have our boats destroyed/sunk. I hope you accept my humble apology... |
Any dumbass with an internet connection can learn how to make one with stuff stolen from any mining or commercial construction site or some old farmer's garage. Since you missed the point, the idea is that you can't count on anything being impenetrable. Improbable? Maybe. It comes down to time available and motivation. "...I wonder what's so important that it has to be kept inside this vault?" SkagSig40, I hope it never slams closed on your fingers. I would estimate the door at 2500+ pounds based on your info. Back to the original topic at hand, about the best you can hope for is concealment and weight along with a lazy criminal. Toss a dozen 25lb bags of shot in the bottom of the safe after you move it into the basement. Some safe companies |
As far as forced entry on a safe goes I was told if a burning bar or torch was used that was hot enough to cut steel it would cause damage to anything in said safe, firearms cash, jewelry, etc.. Explosives seem like they would pretty much do in any firearm, jewelry, electronics, or cash for that matter and attract more than just a little attention. I have seem some interesting modifications and booby-traps to safes in movies though, the hand grenade wired to the inside of a safe in the movie "The Jackle" comes to mind....
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Nope; you can cut the corner edge off a firesafe at an angle with minimum damage to the contents and pry the thing open with a car jack. |
Fill it with concrete. Or 1000 second hand dildos... 
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I've made a few safes in my time. Gotta think outside the box. You could look right at my safe, and you'd never know it.
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