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1/2/2007 9:29:45 PM EDT
So, zombies have been massing in your neck of the woods. You gather up your family and friends and head for safety. You hole up in a secured bulding/bunker/abandoned military base/where ever. Now you need to gather supplies, food, and such. What is your ideal load out for your raiding party?

I`d would personally be loaded out with either my M1A Loaded EBR, or a M249/MK 46 MOD 0. An Eagle CIRAS vest to carry gear with. 12 mags for my M1A or 4 belts for the M249. And either a suppressed Glock 22 or SIG P220 Combat

Remeber this is purely fantasy/entertainment. Anything goes. Have fun!
1/3/2007 1:07:14 AM EDT
[#1]
Zombies, hmmmmm?
Full body armor so if they get to me they can bite me and make me one of them! A 308 like a HK G3 with extra full mags. My trusty Sig 229 and a good long blade or base ball batt in case I run out of ammo. That is all I could carry comfortably.

If I was strong enough and they had a real life mini-gun rig like in Preditor and Terminator 2 that would be great to mow some zombies down with!
1/3/2007 4:39:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Ruger 10/22 with 10 25-rd mags. (Primary Weapon)
Ruger Mk3 with a few mags as well. (Back-up Weapon)
A Big-ass machete. (Ohs Teh Noes!!!11!!!1)
A few 500-rd boxes of .22s

Hey a .22 will penetrate a zombie skull, so why waste the good ammo? Plus it saves space for what you are going out into the fray for anyway.


Quoted:
So, zombies have been massing in your neck of the woods. You gather up your family and friends and head for safety. You hole up in a secured bulding/bunker/abandoned military base/where ever. Now you need to gather supplies, food, and such. What is your ideal load out for your raiding party?


Raiding = Stealing stuff from other people. Generally a bad thing, especially when zombies are everywhere, and most people are now armed.

Scavenging = Looking for stuff left behind by the other people. "Going to the grocery store".

1/3/2007 5:01:47 AM EDT
[#3]
10/22 using .22LR CCI stingers
20 butler creek steel lips 25 round mags
Ruger MKII integral suppressed using Remington subsonics.  

A brick of ammo for each.
1/3/2007 5:07:35 AM EDT
[#4]
anybody else hear the lock and chain rattling?

SW
1/3/2007 5:14:52 AM EDT
[#5]
The first few posters are totally nuts. A 308 is gross overkill and a .22lr may not even do enough damage to the brain to put one down.

A 5.56 or a 9mm AR-15 carbine or an AK is the way to go.

The 5.56 offers more range and is more likely to destroy the brain, so it is the best choice.  It also is the most accurate choice.

The 9mm is good enough out to about 50 yards or perhaps 75 yards.  So it will keep them off of you. It also allows you to share ammo with your pistol.  But if you see a mass of them at longer range you will have difficulty thinning them out before they get close.

An AK is also a good choice.  But you'll need better sights and a good light.  It's heavier ammo is a bit of disadvantage. But the ability to run after you've dropped it in a muddle puddle makes up for that.

I'd go with a RRA 16 inch midlength carbine, a Glock 17 and aluminium t-ball bat.  The t-ball bat is easy to handle because it is short, basically unbreakable and will not get stuck in bone like a machete.  I'd carry about a dozen magazines.  The carbine would also have a surefire light.
1/3/2007 6:32:20 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
The first few posters are totally nuts. A 308 is gross overkill and a .22lr may not even do enough damage to the brain to put one down.

A 5.56 or a 9mm AR-15 carbine or an AK is the way to go.

The 5.56 offers more range and is more likely to destroy the brain, so it is the best choice.  It also is the most accurate choice.

The 9mm is good enough out to about 50 yards or perhaps 75 yards.  So it will keep them off of you. It also allows you to share ammo with your pistol.  But if you see a mass of them at longer range you will have difficulty thinning them out before they get close.

An AK is also a good choice.  But you'll need better sights and a good light.  It's heavier ammo is a bit of disadvantage. But the ability to run after you've dropped it in a muddle puddle makes up for that.
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308 is indeed way overkill, 5.56 AR or 7.62X39 AK is the way to go. (Consider the AK, you may not get many opportunities to clean you gun while on the run from zombies).  

Keep in mind, when the Zombie Apocalypse comes, you'll need more range than a 9mm carbine offers to defend against the non-zombie road warriors who roam the countryside raping and pillaging due to the collapse of civil order.  Zombies are not the only threats in a zombie outbreak.
1/3/2007 6:39:23 AM EDT
[#7]
My AK 103 clone, a kevlar suit, and some beef jerky.
1/3/2007 7:40:01 AM EDT
[#8]
OK, so the 308 is overkill, unless you can get them lined up. Maybe get 3 in a row for a hat trick. The M60 does the mass elimination role, the AR10 in case you have to shoot through a pile of bodies and the SBR'd Bushmaster 9mm for house clearing. The Dodge 4x4 diesel with brushguard and a couple Jonserud chain saws in the bed just for fun.

1/3/2007 8:08:05 AM EDT
[#9]
as much 5.56 as i can carry. full auto and belt feds i see as waste of ammo and extra weight as each zombie only needs one headshot.

Back up is a .40 glock as it is reliable and accurate.

And the A-team van.


1/3/2007 8:52:06 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
OK, so the 308 is overkill, unless you can get them lined up. Maybe get 3 in a row for a hat trick. The M60 does the mass elimination role, the AR10 in case you have to shoot through a pile of bodies and the SBR'd Bushmaster 9mm for house clearing. The Dodge 4x4 diesel with brushguard and a couple Jonserud chain saws in the bed just for fun.

i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9/rsanborn/M60-1.jpg


Damn, can I bum a ride? Either you drive and i'll shoot from the bed or you can shoot and i can drive. But don't you even get pissed off, if I mow a zombie down with the "cow catcher".

GTA MotherFu**ers!!!!!
1/3/2007 9:00:55 AM EDT
[#11]
SKS with a chicom vest, KABAR, radio, knife, or an AK with a chicom mag vest, 5 mags, radio, knife sidearm etc.

1/3/2007 9:02:40 AM EDT
[#12]
I think a .17 HMR or .22lr miniature 1919 would be the coolest little thing to have for this.

1/3/2007 9:35:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Vehicle:  Every weapon and stash of ammo I had.  Plus normal survival preps.

On foot?  Probably a AR and perhaps a 22 cal rifle with as much ammo as I can carry.

Remember there will be hundreds of thousands if not millions of zombies.  A 22 would be a great heard thinner when firing from a fortified position.  The assault rifle (your choice of AR, AK, Aug, whatever etc) is for reliable skull penetration and for the threat of other survivors that are hostile to you.

P90 would be a good compromise from having to carry two different weapons, but its not nearly as common to find ammo once you've run out and its not quite as accurate as I'd like for those long distance head shots.

Perhaps the AR57 upper someone Rhineland Arms was working on would be best.  50 round mags, 5.7mm.  If I had a shit load of ammo, that would be my first choice as a do it all gun.
1/3/2007 11:03:31 AM EDT
[#14]
If I had an AR I`d want one of those on it for room clearing.
As to the statement on the .308 being over kill, someone on another post said that "overkill is the only kill!"I like that. And an M1A or FAL will go a LONG time without being cleaned.
1/3/2007 11:11:32 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
If I had an AR I`d want one of those on it for room clearing.
As to the statement on the .308 being over kill, someone on another post said that "overkill is the only kill!"I like that. And an M1A or FAL will go a LONG time without being cleaned.


pickup 500 rounds of .223 vs 500 rounds .308 and you'll notice one hell of a difference.
1/3/2007 11:15:55 AM EDT
[#16]
A blundress, a hatchet and a jam box playing "Flight of the Valkyries"

Old school undead control.

1/3/2007 11:22:28 AM EDT
[#17]
I`m a big guy though...however I`d only be packing about 12 mags though that`s 240 rounds. I know you can carry alot more 5.56mm, but I preffer the 7.62mm.
1/3/2007 11:44:48 AM EDT
[#18]
XCR w/ 10 mags, Sig 226 Blackwater, and my Benelli M4. I probably couldn't carry 10 mags and shotgun shells but I would try to carry all 3 weapons and as much ammo as I could. Hell with zombies chasing you, the adrenaline will be pumping.
1/3/2007 11:52:50 AM EDT
[#19]
You could always put the shot sells on a drop leg sub-load leaving your vest free for rifle mags.
1/3/2007 12:53:01 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
XCR w/ 10 mags, Sig 226 Blackwater, and my Benelli M4. I probably couldn't carry 10 mags and shotgun shells but I would try to carry all 3 weapons and as much ammo as I could. Hell with zombies chasing you, the adrenaline will be pumping.


And when the adrenaline wears off they will still be chasing you!  Loose the shoty.  

A 30 round 5.56 mag weight almost exactly 1 pound.  A shotgun weighs about 8 pounds plus ammo at about 2 oz per round.  So a shotgun with a sling and a bandoleer of 50 rounds is over 14 pounds. That is the equivalent of a 300 rounds of 5.56 loaded in mags plus a 1 liter canteen plus a Glock 19 with 3 loaded mags.

If you're in a vehicle, by all means take the shotgun and ammo.  But if you are on foot take the rifle or the shotgun, not both.


Also for the guys who want an armoured suit, don't!  Leather gloves and jacket are a wise precaution.  But avoid anything heavy and bulky like armor.  Zombies are slow but never tire.  Humans are faster but get tired.  So don't use things that will both reduce your advantage and increase your weakness.  That's nuts.
1/3/2007 1:53:00 PM EDT
[#21]
AKS-74U with several 45 round RPK magazines and a Kobra.

As many mags as I can carry.

I guess my BHP for backup.
1/3/2007 3:38:32 PM EDT
[#22]
A 12-gauge double-barreled Remington made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. With a walnut stock, cobalt steel and a hair trigger.

Hail to the King Baby
1/3/2007 5:03:57 PM EDT
[#23]
How's THIS for overkill:

My M4/870 combo, my .454 Super Redhawk, and the P90 .45ACP for up-close and personal work. Okay, I know it's absurd, but it just....it makes me happy.
1/3/2007 5:26:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Oh god... the hours i've spend preparing for this thread.


two S&W .22LR wheel guns w/ as much ammo as i can carry. (no mag worries)

my AR-180B 5.56mm w/ Leupold 3-9x40 scope over my shoulder and my backpack filled with magazines and ammo boxes.

i always fantasied about about holding in the gander mountain i used to work at with a bunch of my friends. all its guns, ammo, food, propane and other supplies might come in handy plus the store itself could be fortified quite easily.

my only problem would be getting there first.

so yeah.... failing that ill just hold up in my 3rd floor condo popping zombies from the balcony with my AR.
that is until my current !! 5 DAY MAXIMUM !! supply of food runs out.

1/3/2007 6:43:50 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:
that is until my current !! 5 DAY MAXIMUM !! supply of food runs out.





You can go weeks without food, why can't you ration what you have.  If you have five days worth of food, you could easily ration that for three or four weeks on the extreme.
1/3/2007 6:58:21 PM EDT
[#26]
But what if you`re a fat guy like me and get hunger pains pretty quickly?
1/3/2007 9:28:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Zombies...

I guess zombies will be plenty here in Canada as well.
Only infos are from movies, so this is what eveyone knows by now. Zombies are undead beings.  They are slow and poderous (except in Dawn of the Dead 2004), but they do not require rest, so are relentless. They slow gait allows them move exceptionally quite, enabling them to sneak up on unsuspecting victims. They usually move as group, and for some reason they always converge on victim(s), making an escape extremely difficult.
Best will be to avoid contacts at all cost, as prolonged battle will only result in you being their meal. You might fantasize about fighting like in the movies, but that would be foolish.
I don't know much about physics concerning bullets, but I would think that large bullets would be ineffective against rotting flesh, and shooting zombies in the body won't do anything. Everyone know you have to shoot zomebis in the head to neutralize them. I would thing that, depending on the range you are shooting, either 5.56mm or 9mm would be effetive. But it all depend on your shooting ability.
Best solution would be to use deception, as shown in Land of the Dead, to draw zombies out to area you want to be converge on. That would make your raiding/Grocery shopping much easier. If you must fight them, you better so it where there are open enough for you to make an espcape when you do.

Personally, I would carry SG552/PE90, as they are available here in Canada, and what ammo I can carry. One of the larger Kifaru packs would do for packing other essentials, and of course you need good boots. Other than that... I don't know. I think getting these would be hard enough when zombies are after me.
1/3/2007 10:54:45 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
But what if you`re a fat guy like me and get hunger pains pretty quickly?


It just means that you're carrying your food storage with you.  You'll take longer to starve to death than those skinny guys that are in shape and burn calories like mad.
1/3/2007 11:46:54 PM EDT
[#29]
Hey, man, thanks for the morale boost! And my wife said I needed to go on a diet, I`ll just tell her it`s self-contained food storage!
1/4/2007 12:10:44 AM EDT
[#30]
m 61 vulcan
1/4/2007 12:25:19 AM EDT
[#31]
not exactly man portable...hell it`s not even friggin` crew served! Ya`d have to pack that thing on an APC at least!
1/4/2007 2:29:36 AM EDT
[#32]
quote: "A 12-gauge double-barreled Remington made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. With a walnut stock, cobalt steel and a hair trigger.

Hail to the King Baby"

headbang.gif Word.
1/4/2007 4:14:14 AM EDT
[#33]
Stag M-4, Kimber Custom II, Mossberg M590 and a crapload of mags and ammo.............and 100 gallons of gasoline to torch the zombies  
1/5/2007 6:12:03 PM EDT
[#34]
well, I think I would have to go with the ar-10 so I could keep them at a distance. then if I had to make a "run for it" I would go with the AK104. with both rifles I could hunt deer and stay alive, unless the deers turned in to zomies too!
1/5/2007 6:59:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Nah, animals don`t become zombies.
1/5/2007 9:31:48 PM EDT
[#36]
You guys should all read the Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks!!

ITS A GOOD BOOK!! A GOOD BOOK!!!
1/5/2007 10:25:06 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
You guys should all read the Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks!!

ITS A GOOD BOOK!! A GOOD BOOK!!!


I have read it and Max Brooks doesn`t know the first damn thing about zombies! I read that thing and he`s just full of it, like holing up in an appartment building and taking out the stairs so the zombies can`t get up. Well that`s great, but then how do you get down when you need to? All you need to do is put a couple of guys at the top of the stairs with shotguns or mak a barricade at the bottom. You can at least take down the barrier. At least then you have an out when you need it.

I did like the idea of making an oil rig or large ship your base of opperations.

By the way, I like your avatar. Silent Bob is my hero!
1/6/2007 5:50:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Ever heard of a ladder?  Removeable and portable.  

BTW i thought zombie threads were verboten here?

SW
1/6/2007 11:48:07 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Ever heard of a ladder?  Removeable and portable.  

BTW i thought zombie threads were verboten here?

SW


Really? hmm... I did not know that. Well if they are then the mods can delete this thread and hopefully accept my appology.
1/6/2007 11:59:55 AM EDT
[#40]
How could zombie threads be verboten?

Ask 9/10 Black Rifle owners and one of the first things they'll say as to reasons is zombies.

I would have to say a Sig 556 with trijicon ACOG with docter optcs, mounted surefire for room clearing, and a USPc 9mm for back up, tactical vest with 12 or so AR mags, 4-6 pistol mags.  A satchel with more ammo/2 days of food/water.

Long as we are dreaming, AAC suppressors for the rifle and pistol.

Two 5 shot .38s for sticky close quarters situations or to eat if I get surrounded and out of ammo.

Flares for marking territory, flare gun to signal choppers, a small pry bar for getting through barricades/knocking heads in and a good knife or two because knives are handy.

I also sure as hell wouldn't turn my nose up at white phosphorous grenades or a Light Armored Vehicle.  Though I don't much insight as to how to use either.

Believe it or not, I plan on moving towards this sort of setup myself just for cheerful paranoia's sake.

1/6/2007 2:06:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Remember, only head shots count. You need a light, high capacity, lightweight weapon, something like an AR with a beta mag or a PS90. Anything 7.62 is going to be overkill, heavy, and low capacity, not a good anti-zomby weapon

For a stationary position a 1919A4, if you have someone to keep it fed would be nice as you can change barrels and engage targets quickly but only if you hold high ground so resupply and targeting times are not a factor, a pick'em off at your own leasure sorta thing.


I live in farm country, so population is relatively sparse, giving time to fortify. My transportation would be a combine with an armored cab, all the better to scoop up zombies and shred'em.

S.O.
1/6/2007 4:41:09 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
Nah, animals don`t become zombies.


Just you wait until the zombie mice become a problem, then you will regret not buying robot cats as house guards
1/7/2007 8:54:42 AM EDT
[#43]
If the Zombie invasion comes, I'm making friends with the guy with the M60.  
1/7/2007 9:00:39 AM EDT
[#44]
KISS AR15, Berreta M9. 20 AR15 and 5 m9 mags on my body. Another 100 mags in our tactical asault wheelbarrow.
1/7/2007 1:54:17 PM EDT
[#45]
I would have to use my 51B for that situation

NoHair
1/7/2007 2:11:09 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
BTW i thought zombie threads were verboten here?



Really? Huh. How on earth are we supposed to prepare if we can't talk about it? This is serious stuff. The mods will regret not getting this info when their grandmas are eating their brains.

Just kidding, guys. Sort of.
1/7/2007 3:27:10 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
I would have to use my 51B for that situation
usera.imagecave.com/Nohair2/zombiekiller.jpg
NoHair


Holy shit! I want one!
1/7/2007 3:51:02 PM EDT
[#48]
I'd grab whatever POS new fancy rifle is laying on my bed at the moment...

 
 

1/7/2007 5:00:05 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
Nah, animals don`t become zombies.


did you forget about the zombie German Pinschers in Resident Evil?
1/7/2007 5:23:45 PM EDT
[#50]
I would load a 30 carbine rig.

Its plenty powerfull for skull shots and gives me a range of 300 yards.

Ammo is LIGHT and I can carry a TON of it loaded in 30 round mags.


The M1 Carbine is also VERY easy to clear any jams out of too.  
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